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Nathan90 7 Apr 2011 02:52

Ps. A C90 will climb the Himalayas. But not two up.

poodlebiscuit 4 May 2011 09:41

Thanks for all the replies and advice!! J I’ve now decided that I will go through Iran, Pakistan and India. I’m okay with there being some risks and it seems like I would be silly to miss the chance to ride through all of the culture these countries have to offer.
It looks like my Girlfriend wont be joining me for this part of the trip because of the stress it could put her under. I can take almost anything in my stride but we both think it won’t be fair on her.
Anyway…. I’m now really set on this trip and can’t wait. It looks like my main issue will be Visas. Has anyone British got an Iran Visa within the last 6 months or so?
Thank you all for your help, much appreciated
Ed

poodlebiscuit 28 Jun 2011 12:57

Visa for Iran on British Passport
 
Just a quick bump to ask if anyone has got an Iranian or Pakistan visa recently on a British Passport?

Many thanks
Ed

Mike K. 1 Jul 2011 21:54

Two Swiss kidnapped in Loralai
 
Hello,

two Swiss has been kidnapped today in a restaurant in Loralai near Quetta.

Regards

Mike

QatarRider 2 Jul 2011 07:35

Iran visa and British
 
I got a visa for Iran, no problem. I'm British but based in Qatar, riding 'home' via Saudi, UAE, ferry from Sharjah to Bandar Abbas, up through Iran, Turkey, Balkans etc. I used www.PersiaTours.com contact there is samira zare [samira.persiatours@gmail.com], highly recommended. Rob

Bryn 3 Jul 2011 10:48

Came through about 6 months ago. Riding through Iran and Pak were some of the most amazing times in my life. Iranvisa.com were a little expensive but got the job done (British). I was also able to elect to pick it up in Istanbul which was nice and I had no troubles with the process.

A quick note on the recent developments. The DG Khan road that the Swiss took we were advised against (I came through the same time as Crazymanneil and a few others). The DG Khan road is bad and policed by local tribe leaders not Pak police. Ergo I'm not sure escorts operate through this area. The road we took southeast towards Sukkur was in a better condition, policed and beautiful.

Alternatively you may be able to get your bike onto a train at Bam or Quetta to Islamabad/Rawalpindi. Keep your ear to the ground, but I would still go. Iran and Pak, especially the KKH are too incedible to miss.

Let us know what decision you make

tonired 31 Jul 2011 10:42

Hu meeting in Pakistan
 
Hello if someone its planning to ride Iran and Pakistan around October-November
have a look to this:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...462#post344158

bier

Omie 31 Jul 2011 12:34

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Originally Posted by Mike K. (Post 341138)
Hello,

two Swiss has been kidnapped today in a restaurant in Loralai near Quetta.

Regards

Mike

Loralai is around 500 kms from Quetta close to Afghan border and the lawless tribal areas. I wonder how and why the Swiss reached where even I cant go. All tourists and even locals are clearly warned not to take that route.
I wont be surprised if some other story comes out of the unfortunate kidnapping.

crazymanneil 31 Jul 2011 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omie (Post 344179)
Loralai is around 500 kms from Quetta close to Afghan border and the lawless tribal areas. I wonder how and why the Swiss reached where even I cant go. All tourists and even locals are clearly warned not to take that route.
I wont be surprised if some other story comes out of the unfortunate kidnapping.

Good point Omar. When we were in Quetta we were told if we wanted to go this route we would have to request permission which involved signing a declaration that we understood there would be no police escort, at our own risk etc.

I hope it turns out well for them and wish them a safe return.

N

Omie 31 Jul 2011 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazymanneil (Post 344185)
Good point Omar. When we were in Quetta we were told if we wanted to go this route we would have to request permission which involved signing a declaration that we understood there would be no police escort, at our own risk etc.

I hope it turns out well for them and wish them a safe return.

N

Hi Neil, Drone massacres are taking toll and unfortunately the law and order situation in Balochistan has worsened specially in the tribal areas which are an absolutely no go areas for foreigners.
Only the main roads are safe.
BTW Your Diesel bike is still discussed here :)
Omar

poodlebiscuit 1 Aug 2011 09:35

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thanks for all the updates. However I am now confused as to how I get from India to Iran via Pakistan.:helpsmilie:

I've attached a very bad map of Pakistan.

The "A" is the Wagah-Attari border which I've been told is the only one open to foreigners.
The Red fuzzy area is Balochistan which is a "no-go area"
The Red line is the DG Khan road which is also "no-go"
The Green dot is Sukkur which was described above as safe, and the green line shows the road I'm assuming Bryn means is also safe.

My main problem appears to be the blue dot which is the Mirjaveh-Taftan border and is apparently the only border open to foreigners. How do I get to Iran without entering Balochistan? It covers the entire border :helpsmilie:

If anyone wants to create an equally bad map to show me then it would be greatly appreciated :clap:

Omie 1 Aug 2011 10:08

Hi Ed,
Your map is fine. Taftan/Mirjavah border is in Balochistan and you'll be crossing it. It is the largest province (area wise) of Pakistan and certain areas are unsafe specially the ones close to Afghan border. You should be taking the following route,
Sukkur-Shikarpur-jacobabad-Sibi-Mach-Quetta-Dalbandin-Nokkundi-Taftan
The main roads should be safe. If there are any problems you might be given guards or advised to take a train and you can take your bike in it too.

Omar

poodlebiscuit 1 Aug 2011 11:20

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Thanks Omie:clap: thats really usefull and incase anyone else is reading this for info I've made a map to show Omie's route. It does run a bit close to Afganistan but then I suppose there's no ther option.
Once again, thanks

pecha72 1 Aug 2011 12:54

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Originally Posted by poodlebiscuit (Post 344274)
Thanks Omie:clap: thats really usefull and incase anyone else is reading this for info I've made a map to show Omie's route. It does run a bit close to Afganistan but then I suppose there's no ther option.
Once again, thanks

Yep, the main road goes near the Afghan border. And it is a troubled area (and it doesn´t stop at the Iranian border, you´ll probably have escorts in Iran, too, until Bam). But at least the government(s) have some presence on that route. Closer to the coast you´d really be on your own, I think. The majority of overlanders go between Iran and India following more or less exactly the route, that you have on that google-map.

Quetta to Taftan is a long stretch, so either break up the journey in Dalbandin where there´s a hotel (well, sort of!!), or start off very early, so that you´ll arrive before sunset. During our trip the road was better near the Iranian border, and got worse as we approached Quetta. But I haven´t been there in almost 4 years, so I don´t know, how it´ll be now.

Cannot guarantee anyone´s safety of course, but in fact traffic is probably the most realistic danger for tourists passing through there.

poodlebiscuit 1 Aug 2011 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by pecha72 (Post 344280)
Quetta to Taftan is a long stretch, so either break up the journey in Dalbandin where there´s a hotel (well, sort of!!), or start off very early, so that you´ll arrive before sunset.

500km is the distance I cover on my C90 on European roads before sunset normally. I've done 1000km in 29 hours non stop but that doesn't sound like a good idea on these roads (and I fainted and crashed at one point haha) :oops2: looks like the stop in Dalbandin will be the plan:thumbup1:


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