Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Want ads > TRAVEL Equipment for Sale / Wanted

TRAVEL Equipment for Sale / Wanted Post your Bike TRAVEL equipment - Panniers, large tanks etc. - for sale here.
INCLUDE COUNTRY in subject, (e.g. Touratech panniers for sale, UK) and include currency in the post ;-)
Please DELETE your post when the item is sold.
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 6 May 2007
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 381
Free rack and semi complete boxes to good home...

Ok here goes....

Back in 2000 when I was running a DL prepped 1VJ (XT 600) I was desperately looking for a rack to mount some ally boxes to take to Africa. After a lot of looking I managed to aquire a beautifully built tubular rear rack. It has a flat rear luggage section and side bars to mount boxes on.

I immediately looked for a set of boxes and soon resigned myself to doing without (bloody expensive for what they are really!!!) until a friend asked why I didnt make some. Sounded like a good plan!!!

I bought the aluminium, folded it with the aid of a friends engineering workshop and ended up with two box shapes and two lids ready to be welded or rivetted.

Then it all went rather pear shaped......Prior to this point I hadnt actually tried to fit the rack to the bike, and when I did, it didnt fit......

With such a short time before leaving I binned the rack/box idea, invented the patent Lomax/B&Q side rail system and chucked on some throw overs. I loved the system that much I never went back to the rack/box system.

Last week whilst sorting out the garage both rack and boxes appeared!

First the good news. I want nothing for them!!! Yep NOTHING!!!!

BUT: The boxes will need £40 of (Aluminium) welders time and a little DIY to rivet some clips on and fit some sponge top sealing stuff. (They currently look like boxes and are folded from 1 piece of Aluminium each, but have a seam down the back that needs welding and a base that needs sorting.) They will also need a mounting system devising to attach them to the rack, nothing a little aluminium angle and a pop rivetter wont solve.

Secondly there is the question of the rack....I know it doesnt fit a 1VJ, and I've been told it is an XT rack. For reference it was too narrow to fit my old XT.....I'm not totally sure what it does fit....

So to summarise, if you happen to have the 'right' XT, a mate who welds Aluminium and a pop rivetter you could walk away with the cheapest set of boxes and rack in the world...........

Oh, and I'm in Manchester, UK, and cant be arsed posting them.....

Bit of a long shot I know!!! I hope they can go to a good home. I'm not splitting them yet, they are ideal for someone with a long distance project and not a lot of money, but eventually if there is no interest I'll let the boxes go spereately.

All the best!

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 6 May 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Northumberland UK
Posts: 34
8 hours on the site and no takers, I don't believe it.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 7 May 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: London
Posts: 239
Hi there mate, i know about beggers and choosers etc.

Any chance of some photos (of rack particularly) and where/how it bolts on. I'm looking to ship out shortly and this sounds my cup of tea. I have an XT660 R and wondering if i could adapt.

Thanks
Joe
__________________
Thanks
Joe
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 7 May 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wiltsire UK
Posts: 58
Yes please!!!!!

Yes please if they are still available? I have an IVJ and have been toying with the idea of making a set. Happy to collect or arrange courier etc. Please call me on 07786 321317 if you still have them.

Cheers

Alan
__________________
Be the person your dog thinks you are.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 8 May 2007
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 381
Ok guys,

Photos by this weekend, first refusal goes to Joe, second to Alfow....

Link soon,

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 9 May 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 38
Yes Please! am only 20 miles east of Manchester!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 16 May 2007
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 381
Not sure how to post photos on here and cant Email JoeSheffer.......

Do i need to host the photos myself or can I upload them?

Ta,

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 16 May 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 3,371
Question the patent Lomax/B&Q side rail system

Hi Dave,
"the patent Lomax/B&Q side rail system" - so, what is that all about?
(I like soft panniers!)

Cheers,

Another Dave
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 16 May 2007
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 5
are these still available

Hi

Did these panniers and rack go to a new home?

thanks

Peter
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 19 May 2007
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 381
CAN JOE SHEFFER PLEASE MAIL ME!!!!!!???????????

If I dont hear anything by the end of this weekend then Alfow will be getting a call on Monday......

Sorry about this, but if I cant contact you, I cant give them to you! I have photos to mail and I need the panniers gone........I have PM'd you.

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 19 May 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 3,371
Question

Hi Dave,
So, what is the B&Q method of providing side rails? (See my post number 8). Thanks,

Another Dave
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 21 May 2007
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 381
Panniers gone to Alan, Sorry Joe...

Dave,

If you check out the UK Yahoo Tenere Group and check out photos of the 1VJ belonging to 'The Don' then you'll see my old Tenere and the siderails together with an explanation of where they came from and how they came about. Basically it was £2 worth of flat iron from B&Q cut into two strips and bent to fit between the footpeg hanger and the rear rack mount. They were cheap, indestructable, and kept the soft luggage off the pipe and rear plastics. When I stopped off to see Dave Lambeth on my way south he was using identical systems on his rally and O/L prepped bikes. Never mind all these posh racks, get some iron, a hammer, and a concrete step (to beat the iron over...!!), and save yourself hundreds of pounds!!!

Dave2
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 22 May 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 3,371
Question Home made soft luggage frame for TT600R

Thanks Dave,
I get the broad idea and it is a good one IMO: I had thought about doing something similar in copper piping on the basis that the jointing would be easy (after having done a fair bit of home plumbing) - just use capillary solder joints to make up a frame and then offer it up to fixing points on the bike. Not sure if it would need 22mm pipe or the smaller stuff would do the job!!! This could also go over the back of the bike as a rack; what do you think?

Dave
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 23 May 2007
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 381
IMHO copper would be too soft. I also briefly considered it. Also if it gets wet it'll make lots of nasty green goo, and will corrode internally even if coated externally.

I think the secret is to keep it really simple. Dont go copper, dont go tube, dont go complex.....As Grant once said to me, 'KISS' (Keep It Simple Stupid!!!) I was a little worried initially, but came around to the idea once he explained it was an acronym....;-)

If you just bash up two side bars and then plastic coat them they are light, look good, and work brilliantly. If they get damaged they can be bent back into place and can be re-welded anywhere in the world. In short, I believe they are by far the best system, as do many others who have more experience than me. But only if you go down the throwover route.

Just as a brief aside, if you want to work some 3D magic in steel, but dont have the kit or the expertise to weld, have you considered silver soldering? Its just like soldering copper or braising but works at a lower temperature, you use a standard blow torch, but with thin soldering rods and a pot of powdered flux. Its not a very well known process (I have no idea why), but if you can solder copper pipe together you can sure as hell silver solder. It would allow you to make up a 3D rack using flat or tubular steel. Its strong enough to run for a few weeks (even permenantly) to check all is good before popping it down to your friendly welders for a final run of weld or two. I have a flat bar system wrapping around the rear of my DRZ400e, including an 'over the top' section to allow weight to be carried, that could easily be made at home from flat section steel, 25mmx2.5mm and soldered up to test in situ on the bike.....no problems with disconnecting batteries and all that MIG/TIG business until after the job is done.

Hope that helps,

All the best,

Dave

(p.s. I know it was my thread, but sorry to hijack it, if there are anymore posts on this I think we should move it to another section....!!!!!)
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 23 May 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 3,371
I had similar thoughts about the Cu piping Dave; one possibility would be the chromed version that is used for exposed pipe runs BUT I would then be using compression fittings I believe and they are a tad unsightly!! The finished product would look a bit "special" however.

One advantage of tube over flat section is the better stiffness, weight for weight, but I take your KISS principle as well. Apart from that, I have the Cu pipe & spare fittings lying around already, having fitted a bathroom a couple of years ago!!

Thanks for your lengthy answer - very interesting and, no, I had not heard of silver soldering of steel previously. I will bear it in mind.

I have also wondered about bolted joints for flat section in addition to bolting the finished article to the bike - any thoughts on that? (A bit like meccano sets of years ago). Still in accord with the KISS principle.

I definitely prefer soft luggage, so I am still interested in the broad concept; no hurry as yet though - got the bike to fix first!!

Your call on the thread aspect - I jumped in because your original topic was sorted out (I believe there is a thread somewhere for homemade panniers!!)

Cheers,

Dave
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 
 
 

NEW! HU 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar is now available! Get your copy now for some terrific travel inspiration!

HUGE, 11.5 x 16.5 inches, beautifully printed in Germany on top quality stock! Photos are the winning images from over 600 entries in the 9th Annual HU Photo Contest!

Horizons Unlimited 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar.

"The calendar is magnificent!"

"I just wanted to say how much I'm loving the new, larger calendar!"

We share the profit with the winning photographers. YOU could be in the HU Calendar too - enter here!


HU DVD Autumn Special!

Take 40% off Road Heroes Part 1 until October 31 only!

Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries two-up on a Harley); Dr. Greg Frazier (5 times RTW); Tiffany Coates (RTW solo female); and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).

The first in an exciting new series, Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers."Inspiring and hilarious!"

"I loved watching this DVD!"

"Lots of amazing stories and even more amazing photographs, it's great fun and very inspirational."

"Wonderful entertainment!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'HEROES' on your order when you checkout.


Renedian Adventures


Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!


New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.


Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 14:47.