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Old 13 Apr 2003
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Few tips for selling your bike in Buenos Aires

Hi,
I just sold my bike in Buenos Aires. Here are some tips to help you find your buyer.

1. Post your bike for sale in Buenos Aires Herald. costs around 10U.S for a week.
2. Post your bike for sale in "Segunda Mano", the argentinian newspaper for selling stuff. Free.
3. Sell your bike legaly to argentinian by nacionalize the bike. here are the costs;
* Derecho de Importacion: 28% (Import Duties)
* I.V.A. : 21%
* ESTADISTICA: .3%

prices is by the value of the bike. you can make a fake contract with the buyer says he buys the bike at lower price.

4. in case you need to store the bike it costs 35-45 pesos for a month in any garage on the streets.

5. in case you need a cheep place to stay, Buenos Aires Hostel, Pasaje san lorenzo 320, San Telmo, 43610694. costs 210 pesos per month.

6. in case you want to ship it back to your country, Hellmann Worldwide Logistics, Avenida Corrientes 531, 3rd floor, 43943770.

7. in case you need a cheep flight tickets, Asatej, Florida 833, 3rd floor.

Good luck,
Eyal
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Need info on where is better to buy a moto

Hi Eyal,
I want to buy a moto to travel with in South america.
Right now I`m in Bariloche and thinking about either going to BA or Santiago to buy it.
I`m looking for a not too expensive bike that will fit traveling in North Chile and Argentina, Bolivia, Peru and Brazil.
What would you recommend me?
Thanks. Tomer.
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thanks for the info.

I was made believe that it is not possible to import a used moto into argentina.
Does it have to be new to import & can you send me some more info as to where & how you went about importing it in BA.
I´m sure you get this request alot, but I would appreciate any further info.
Thank you
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Good for you eyalchuck

Eyalchuck, you are are the right track and thank you for sharing the process you followed for selling a foreign registered bike in Argentina.

Could you please answer these questions.

1. Before titling the bike in Argentina in what country was the bike registered (titled)? Am I correct to assume it was NOT TITLED in a "limítrofes" bordering MERCOSUR country?

2. What year is the bike? And, what was the "cilindraje" (size of engine) of the bike?

3. Is the *28% Derecho de Importación (import duty) and 21% I.V.A. standard for all bikes, all years, engine sizes, and all conditions, or do the percentages vary from bike to bike?

4. How does a foreign tourist (I assume you are) legally sell the bike to an Argentine, and secure a bill of sale from the buyer, before legally registering the bike in Argentina? It is illegal to sell a foreign registered bike in Argentina without first registering it in Argentina.

5. How can a bill of sale be provided to the aduana (customs) by the Argentine buyer, who, is not legally able to purchase a foreign registered bike. (see above)

6. Is it not true, that legally the bike must be inspected by a customs official, and the value of the bike is determined by that customs official, based upon a "blue book" of bike values?

7. Were you, or were you not required to have an official safety check of the bike before submitting it to the aduana for appraisal and assignment of import taxes?

8. Once the Import Duty of 28% and the I.V.A. of 21% was paid how much did it cost you to secure an Argentine title, plate, and green card in your name so that you could then legally sell the bike in Argentina?

9. When the Argentine buyer transferred the Argentine Title in your name, to his/hers were there any additional fees over and above the fees of a normal title transfer?

10. After you paid almost 50% in import duty and tax, of the stated value of the bike in order to obtain an Argentine title in your name, you were then legally able to sell the bike to an "Argentine?"

Once the bike was legally registered in your name in Argentina, you could have sold it to another foreign tourist. Why state sell to an Argentine?

*I have personally been quoted a much higher % (percentage) import duty for a bike, but this could be because the bike was expensive and only 2 years old.

And a note, available motorcycle parking spaces in safe commercial garages are rare in La Ciudad de Buenos Aires, if you can find one, be prepared to spend a whole lot more that 35 or 40 pesos a month. Perhaps you could store a bike in a private garage for this price..., but certainly not a commercial one. I have done a survey of safe commercial parking garages in La Ciudad de Buenos Aires and my results prove MOST garages in La Ciudad de Buenos Aires have insurance safety regulations that prohibit storing any motorcycles.

Thanks for taking the time to answer these short questions. I am sure your answers will be very helpful to me and others.

xfiltrate


NEW DATA: In very recent com with an Argentine despachante (customs broker), I learned that a foreign registered bike can be legally titled in Argentina, only by the owner listed on the foreign title, and this must be done in person.

IMPORTANT At this point in time, it is unclear to me and the attorney, if a foreigner entering Argentina on a 3 month tourist visa can legally title his/her foreign registered bike in Argentina. Anyone who has done this, please post here.

A legal foreign resident of Argentina, with DNI, can legally register his/her foreign registered bike in Argentina. The process is as follows, an appropriate official of the aduana (customs) assigns a value to the bike and then determines the % of that value to be paid as import duty by the legal foreign owner of the foreign registered bike, not by a buyer or potential buyer. The I.V.A. (tax) is determined and paid, I do not know the I.V.A. % is for 2009, but will endeavor to find out (at least 20%). There are other smaller fees, but I have no verification of what these are, or what percentage of the bike's value is used to determined these fees.

The owner must submit the bike to an official safety inspection, prior to registering the bike in Argentina.

With the foreign title, registration and plate in hand the owner of the foreign registered bike then proceeds to Argentine motor vehicles, this is not done at the aduana, and exchanges his foreign bike documents for an Argentine title, plate and green card. Remember, insurance must be issued before the bike is legal on the streets.

Once the bike is legally registered in Argentina, it can then be legally sold to an Argentine, a resident of Argentina or a foreign tourist.

A caution, appointments must be made with aduana (customs) officials, who will travel to see the bike, for a fee. The down time on this process is indeterminable, my despachante (customs broker) says, once the bike is evaluated by the aduana (customs) prepare for a "substantial" wait for the official written results and other paper work, verification of the original foreign title etc.

An Apostille attached to the title, (document from State/Country certifying the foreign title is valid, in the USA APOSTILLES are issued by the Department of State of the State in which the bike was titled) may be helpful, this is best secured before leaving the State/Country where the bike is titled. I do not know which government agency issues appostilles for Britain or any other country.

I am also posting this recent data, on my thread in Mexico, Central and South America region. xfiltrate

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