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goodwoodweirdo 25 Mar 2010 13:34

Troopie / HJ80 - Quick question regarding wheels;
 
I'm looking for a set of 6.5 x 16" steel rims for my ("88) HZJ75 which is a 6 bolt pattern, do the LC 80 series use the 6 bolt pattern ? would they be a direct fit ? I'm looking to use 255/85R16 tyres.

I fancy a set of original Toyota split rims - but its the same old augment about tubed / tubeless... I don't plan on changing the tyres myself and the more remote places I travel the more road side tyre repair places I see..... (crazy!!)

Any ideas on where in the UK / Europe sell these, ideally second hand as I want to keep the budget down.

Kind regards
Matt

Niva Say Never 25 Mar 2010 14:33

Hi Matt,
I'm in the same boat with my 60. Are your standard wheels 6x16 too?
It is a shame to have to swap the wheels for the sake of 0.5" but i guess the 255 85's say they need 6.5" minimum for a reason.
If you find a uk source please post it, i'll do the same.
I tried some 7x16 white 8 spokes from Devon 4x4 but they fouled my front calipers

Sam

ilesmark 25 Mar 2010 14:48

Hi - when I prepped my 80 series for my trip, I bought 5 new steel wheels for about £150-£160 from these people:-
Steel Wheels

Not sure whether the ones for the 80 also fit the 75, but Paddock should be able to advise. But do check them carefully when you get them. One of mine in particular should have been sent back and swapped - it caused me balancing problems.

overlandcruiser.net

Niva Say Never 25 Mar 2010 15:40

Thanks, the wheel and tyre man at Paddock was really helpfull (when they eventually picked the phone up!)
He has confirmed that their 7x16 8 spokes do have the ring around the mounting face that the ones from Devon 4x4 lacked, so they should clear my calipers ok.
They're only getting them in black and have 100 or so arriving on sat, i'm going to wait till pay day and give them a try.
I'll report back once i've got them

goodwoodweirdo 25 Mar 2010 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niva Say Never (Post 282402)
Thanks, the wheel and tyre man at Paddock was really helpfull (when they eventually picked the phone up!)
He has confirmed that their 7x16 8 spokes do have the ring around the mounting face that the ones from Devon 4x4 lacked, so they should clear my calipers ok.
They're only getting them in black and have 100 or so arriving on sat, i'm going to wait till pay day and give them a try.
I'll report back once i've got them

Are you sure you need a 6.5" wheel for the 255/85 ? I've just read someone fitting them on a 6" if thats the case then I could look for a set of original split rims and fit inner tubes / or have the rim welded up .... i'm not a big fan of the white 8 spokes...

Can I ask what you're paying for the wheels and have you had good offers on the tyres ?

many thanks Matt

Niva Say Never 25 Mar 2010 16:28

Take a deep breath......
5 rims and 6 BFG M/T 255 85's.......£1025 all in delivered!!
There's no way i have that sort of cash, but having tracked down the wheels i want, i'm going to grab them while i can and get the tyres in dribs and drabs later.
I still have some perfectly good A/T's on the truck at the mo, so i'm in no rush, it's just they're not going to be up to the the next big trip (Cape Town and back).
The wheels are £29 + vat each, so i think i'll start there
They want 118 + vat each for the tyres (i haven't researched enough yet to know how good a price this is (or isn't)

Sam

Niva Say Never 25 Mar 2010 16:32

Sorry, i only just read your edited bit.
BFG definitely state 6.5" minimum on their site

BFGoodrich Tires | Mud-Terrain T/A® KM2 | Tire Sizes & Specs

The guy at Paddock was very against the idea of fitting them on a 6" rim.
I'd be interested to hear any other opinions or experiences though, i'm only going on what i've been told so far

goodwoodweirdo 25 Mar 2010 17:06

Wooow over a grand... damm...

OK

I'm based in Belgium and will ask around for the price of tyres but I think thats a good price compared to here...

I know there is 4 used on ebay ... 7 mm tread - see the previous posts in Sale / wanted section.

Am I right in saying some 80's where sold in the UK with steel wheels maybe a commerical version or entry model.

Good luck

Matt

Niva Say Never 25 Mar 2010 18:52

Thanks Matt, goodluck yourself
Not sure on the 80's i'm afraid, hopefully someone else can chime in on that one.
Keep me posted if you find anything interesting

twenty4seven 25 Mar 2010 19:29

2nd hand info.

You can buy Toyota steel wheels as off the 80 direct from Toyota OEM part number is T42601-80361 and I'm told they are around £70 each.

Sam

Seems a shame to swap those Toyota steel wheels all for 12.5mm, if it was me I would use your wheels, but I'm not an expert on these matters :Beach:

Niva Say Never 25 Mar 2010 19:53

Cheers Matt, yeah it does seem a shame.
I'm no expert and i'm sure people do fit tyres on undersized rims, i just worry a bit about the long term effects of doing so on a year long trip.
Still, i'm under no pressure to rush into anything, so if anyone knows different, let me know

rclafton 25 Mar 2010 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by twenty4seven (Post 282431)
2nd hand info.

You can buy Toyota steel wheels as off the 80 direct from Toyota OEM part number is T42601-80361 and I'm told they are around £70 each.

Sam

Seems a shame to swap those Toyota steel wheels all for 12.5mm, if it was me I would use your wheels, but I'm not an expert on these matters :Beach:

and when you have an accident and the insurance company check the wheels......... and refuse to pay out for 12.5mm undersize

also the tyres specify this, and if you are spending that much on each tyre isn't it best to spend a little bit more so its right

Honybadger 25 Mar 2010 22:52

I'm not a fan of the aftermarket steel wheels, they seem too thin. I've had a load that I bought on vehicles and with tyres but the finish never seems to last and they rust.
One had the wheel nuts loose and ovalised the holes really easily. I've seen a lot damaged in trials.
(can you guess I run genuine Wolf rims on my 110)

What about other Japanese 4x4s? would you find any others from a Patrol or similar that would fit?

I didn't really find it that much easier changes tyres on a split rim'ed cruiser than my Landy (using the Hi lift to break the bead)

Niva Say Never 25 Mar 2010 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by rclafton (Post 282452)
if you are spending that much on each tyre isn't it best to spend a little bit more so its right

That's the thing, the way i see it.......
This isn't going too be cheap any way i look at it.
But, to spend out on the tyres and have the end result being sub standard doesn't bare thining about.

I'll spend some time looking into other OEM stuff, it'd be better quality for sure if i can find something that works.
I think that's my next plan of attack, thanks

Peter Girling 26 Mar 2010 19:07

OK, so they're 5 stud!
 
Still got a set of 5 brand new split rims complete with new 7.50x16 tyres from my Troopie. Got to clear out the garage - any offers?

Jojo


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