75' Series Troopy, how often do you service it on the road ?

[Boags]

Hi there,

Finally ! This is it ! Started last month, Melbourne to Brussels ! YAY !

I'm on the WA coast heading to Darwin, via Alice tru the Tanami. Melbourne to Monkey Mia is about 7500k which is when I changed the oil filter. But, what about the "big" services ? How do you/I/we go about it ? I think if I change the oil filter every 7500k, then change the air and diesel filters every 15.000k I should be right. What do you reckon ?

And what about belts etc which are supposedly due every 50K, how often do you, proud overlanders in 4wd, service your "mobile home"


Thanks, for any input...

Boags.

PS : if anyone is on the road right now, two or four wheels, let's get a . My itinerary for the next weeks is as follow :
Ningaloo to Broome : Monday 1st April to Sunday 08th April
Broome and area : Monday 09th April to Sunday 15th April
Tanami, Gary Jcn and Sandy Blight Jcn to Yulara to Alice : 15th April to 15th May
Alice to Darwin via Kakadu : 15th May to 15th June

See yas on the road.
Stay safe.

[tacr2man]

Change the oil and filter as per normal intervals for extreme conditions , re air filter and fuel filter change on condition , as it will depend for instance on fuel cleanliness which can be very variable in the bush . You should have a water contamination warning light , which is quite common happening . When power seems to be dropping off 1st check by changing fuel filter , so carry a couple !
Air filter depends on dust levels, eg if following road train etc ! . They will blow out a bit do from inside to outside of filter , if water eg damp then just fit new .
L/crs tend to need frequent hub services esp in extreme conditions see handbook . Check for oil contamination in axles and gearboxes if wading creeks . Belts carry spares fit when/if bust HTSH
ps carry plenty of water and let people know where you are and eta as it can get very quiet off the main highway .

[noel di pietro]

Originally Posted by tacr2man

Change the oil and filter as per normal intervals for extreme conditions , re air filter and fuel filter change on condition , as it will depend for instance on fuel cleanliness which can be very variable in the bush . You should have a water contamination warning light , which is quite common happening . When power seems to be dropping off 1st check by changing fuel filter , so carry a couple !
Air filter depends on dust levels, eg if following road train etc ! . They will blow out a bit do from inside to outside of filter , if water eg damp then just fit new .
L/crs tend to need frequent hub services esp in extreme conditions see handbook . Check for oil contamination in axles and gearboxes if wading creeks . Belts carry spares fit when/if bust HTSH
ps carry plenty of water and let people know where you are and eta as it can get very quiet off the main highway .

Do not fully agree with the above with respect the engine oil. Normal service interval apply in "western countries" with low sulphur diesel. If you get to the more undeveloped countries, the chances you get higher sulphur diesel is eminent and sulphur breaks down your oil (or the dopes in your oil which make it stick to the metal and builds the lubrication film) You can get special oil for that with an extra high TBN number (Total Base Number), the dope which binds acids but that is not easy to come by. The acids also causes internal corrosion of the engine. In some area's you can get up to 2% sulphur is the diesel which is 500 times more than what we get nowadays in the "west". Better safe than sorry and change the oil in 3rd world countries every 3000 to 5000 km! Oil filter every 10.000, fuel filter standard, unless you run extra filter, then you can have extended life. Air filter is a menace because carrying spare takes a lot of space. I had original Toyota washable filter (PN 17801-61030) for the troopy, works like a charm, never changed it for 60.000 km in Africa! Just washed it when necessary. Actually, still running it, 5 years after!

Bon Voyage,
Noel
www.toyotaoffthemap.blogspot.com

[Boags]

Ah thanks Noel, that's the kind of info I was after, a washable air filter ? really ? that's just awesome.

Oil and diesel ok, so change the oil but not the filter then ? only once every two changes, okay good to know.

Belts ? plugs ?:confused1:

B.

[tacr2man]

diesel in Australia since 09 is 10ppm sulfur , which is where the poster was asking about so that is why I gave the answer I did . Most Australians dont consider Australia third world

Boags you should not have plugs , if you are diesel unless you mean heater plugs . They are on condition items as usage rates per mile is very variable . Hotter countries usually have a longer life span due to less usage . belts , hoses brake pads etc are on condition items ie look and see and make a judgment . Unlike aircraft most vehicle items are not houred life expiry , unless you want to maintain vehicle as per Rolls Royce schedules , which can get very expensive . HTSH

[Boags]

Txs yeah I know I did mean heater plugs

Can you get filters, oil etc in most countries though ? I'll take a few with me but there is no way I can bring it all along...

[twobob]

Hiya mate, have you renewed your timing belt ?(if it is the 1HZ engine), they should be done every 50,000 cliks, it can be a holiday killer if it goes. If you replace it also change the tensioner as well (fairly cheap).
If you have a snorkel get a prefilter or turn the head around to face backwards when in dusty conditions this will prolong filter life. You can purchase filter adapters for both fuel and oil that will take generic cartridges but Toyotas are everywhere, I wouldn't bother. Take a spare set of water hoses and belts and install a fuel pre-filter if you expect suspect fuel. As mentioned the Tojos go through seals on the front hubs if driven hard in 4wd constantly, nothing to panic over but I recommend you carry a seal kit (both sides) light to carry and includes gaskets. Have a check on all door seals, that Tanami is a dusty trek.
Good luck

[noel di pietro]

Originally Posted by twobob

Hiya mate, have you renewed your timing belt ?(if it is the 1HZ engine), they should be done every 50,000 cliks, it can be a holiday killer if it goes. If you replace it also change the tensioner as well (fairly cheap).
If you have a snorkel get a prefilter or turn the head around to face backwards when in dusty conditions this will prolong filter life. You can purchase filter adapters for both fuel and oil that will take generic cartridges but Toyotas are everywhere, I wouldn't bother. Take a spare set of water hoses and belts and install a fuel pre-filter if you expect suspect fuel. As mentioned the Tojos go through seals on the front hubs if driven hard in 4wd constantly, nothing to panic over but I recommend you carry a seal kit (both sides) light to carry and includes gaskets. Have a check on all door seals, that Tanami is a dusty trek.
Good luck

Timing belt every 50K km ?? Toyota interval, as far as I know for the 1HZ is every 100.000km! The 75 has a interval alarm light in the dash. But changing it prior to an RTW trip is the smart thing to do, is a 10 minute job if you know what your doing. If you don't, chances are you are ruining the engine! As for the washable airfilter, it look like a normal filter but the element is made of coton in stead of paper. It's really brilliant.

Just a few more thing I did too;
- change the main contact and brushes of the starter (take the old ones as spare)
- change brushes of alternator (take old ones as spare)
- core of the radiator refurbished.
- few no brainers; springs, shocks and breaks in as good as new condition.

The reason why I changed all the parts despite the old ones still being ok is to make sure the spares you take actually fit. Hapens all to often you get wrong parts and you don't want to find that out in the middle of the Sahara desert or whereever you go. Also its nice to leave with a car in mint condition.

cheers,
Noel
www.toyotaoffthemap.blogspot.com

Toyota Troopy '93
Africa Twin '97

[twobob]

Originally Posted by noel di pietro

for the 1HZ is every 100.000km! The 75 has a interval alarm light in the dash.

Yeah I know, It's written on every head cover, but I distrust the odometers in the 80's, mine has a mind of its own and the timing belt light I couldn't reset, so much so that I stuck a bit of tape over it ( I know about the reset switch)
An after-market odometer showed how wonky the toyotas can be , so I recommend to owners to err on the side of caution. It is important and not that expensive.

[marker]

$My ex- troopy (PZJ75) has done about 100.000 km in Europe, the other 600.000+ km in Africa and latin america, so mainly high sulphur.
I changed oil every 7500 km but sometimes it went up to 10.000...
Oil- and fuelfilter every 15.000 km.
Airfilter was changed for K&N (cleaned with petrol and oiled with K&N airfilter oil aprx every 30.000 even in very dusty conditions)
Timing belt every 100.000km

The car never ever gave me any problem, engine untouched. Oil consumption between intervals max 0.5 l.
No black smoke when accelerating either.

The car is still going going strong , the new owners imported it to Germany