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MOGGY 7 Nov 2012 16:47

Which Sidecar for XT660Z
 
HI

Can anyone recommend or sell me an Enduro or single seat sidecar for my XT660Z?

Just got back from 3 weeks in Nepal on a Enfield. I've damaged my back and came back in a wheel chair :wheelchair: Dohhhhhh.

I think a bike & sidecar may help me get back on the road :mchappy:but I dont want to sell the XT Tenner

John

mark manley 7 Nov 2012 17:58

Good luck with your search and recovery, do you have an interesting or cautionary tale to tell about you ended up in a wheelchair?
If you don't have any luck here with the sidecar you might try here.
Hacks - ADVrider

Threewheelbonnie 7 Nov 2012 18:29

You are not really going to get a huge choice as such, sidecar makers are few and far between. You really need to tell us how you intend to use the outfit, what the use of the seat in the chair will will be, what mechanical skills you have and if you have tens, hundreds or thousands to spend. If you can weld or have £40,000 to spend the choices are greater. If you have £5000 and no skills or facilities you are probably better buying a ready set up outfit on e-bay that trying to fit a chair to the Ten. Most chairs are going to really reduce the ground clearance, so going to a road style bike won't make a great difference off road. Strength will, so full steel frames are best.

The Tenere does not look a bad prospect as it has a decent frame, but for anything except occasional road use you will need a subframe. Velorex fittings will be a PITA. You need to call UNIT and Watsonian to see if they've ever made one. If they have not they will need to see your bike. Don't get dragged into the leading links/brake on the chair/not enough power debate, a Tenere outfit would be unusal, perfectly usable and great fun if done right without.

If you want a chair to match the style of the bike you want an ETH from UNIT, but they are perpetually in the process of going bust, so don't expect fast service. WASP could build you a chair but again you'll pay and wait.

Ural chairs are relatively tough, cheap and available but have ball mounts meant for Urals. These will need cutting off and replacing with something that'll fasten to your subframe. Talk to David Angel at F2, he does Ural to bolt fittings.

What you don't really want unless you can get a lot of strengthening added is something like a Velorex. A chair designed for a 20 HP JAWA will not like 48HP and off road use, it may take one or the other.

The platform chairs like the ETH, WASP and similar are meant for adults who'll help out on the rough stuff. Your kit still gets wet just like on a solo bike and you cannot carry your 85 year old Aunt, small children or dog. Choice is of course personal, but I always preffered some sort of box. There is little to stop you converting any chassis into a box or platform.

These might give you ideas https://sites.google.com/site/yorkshireoutbacksidecar/ and https://sites.google.com/site/threewheelbonnie/Home

I am an ex-sidecarist. After ten years on three wheels the various insurance and MOT hassles took the fun out of it and I'd rather spend my reduced spare time riding. I will be back when time allows though, it is a very different experience to riding a solo and a lot of fun.

Enjoy

Andy

I can save you a trip to the other forum BTW: They'll tell you to buy a Ural! :rofl:

belzebut69 9 Nov 2012 13:58

italy
 
i think you can try these guys:
Yamaha Tenerè 660 con sidecar di nostra produzione � Sidecar Italia

please keep us/me posted if you find out more about this subject

thx

MOGGY 9 Nov 2012 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark manley (Post 399476)
Good luck with your search and recovery, do you have an interesting or cautionary tale to tell about you ended up in a wheelchair?
If you don't have any luck here with the sidecar you might try here.
Hacks - ADVrider

I ignored one of the basic rules. DONT GO ABROAD WHEN SLIGHTLY INJURED THE BUMPY ROADS WILL FINISH YOU. I'm in the process of selling my house and dug the garden over for someone to view the house whilst I was away. The back niggled more every day on the road in Nepal until one disc collapsed inwards.

Selous 10 Nov 2012 02:42

I would suggest contacting the Nat Assoc of Disabled Riders, for details as they have wide contacts & could put you in touch with someone near you.

Big Yellow Tractor 10 Nov 2012 07:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selous (Post 399755)
I would suggest contacting the Nat Assoc of Disabled Riders, for details as they have wide contacts & could put you in touch with someone near you.

NABD

Saw a guy on one of their stands at a show; his bike was an Aprilia RSV Mille, I think, adapted to be ridden with one leg and one arm missing.

Most impressive.

Threewheelbonnie 10 Nov 2012 10:22

What will you be like pushing a half ton of outfit backwards?

This can be avoided 95% of the time with a bit of forward planning, but even experienced drivers can get trapped by unseen events or inconsiderate parking. If you can push fine (shoulder the headlight and drag the front wheel spokes upwards gives a bit of gearing), if not there is the Ural/Goldwing option (reverse gear), expensive mods to fit a reverse gear to a BMW or Harley, outfits that are almost trikes using VW or Reliant mechanicals or fitting a caravan mover to one of the wheels.

NABD do some great work BTW.

Andy

MOGGY 7 Aug 2013 23:50

Thanks for the advice. Getting the frame on the XT660 beefed up and a Motopodd single seat on. Chair weight 89kg without seat
if i have reverse problems ill keep a tow rope in chair ot fit winch or move to a reversing combo. I now have bits tovget rid of like centrenstand and behind bike trailer.

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