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Websites selling used bikes in the UK?

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I'm looking for a second hand, new model Tenere from the UK and I would like to get some addresses to the UK websites that have used bike ads or ads about vehicles generally. I found Bike Trader already. Any others? Or if anyone has a Tenere for sale, feel free to offer it to me at janaukka(a)lut.fi . Thanks.

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Jami, register at XT660.com and ask the guys there. They'll know what's about. I think the bike is very new and second hand ones may be rare. There are some low mileage ones at the dealers but they want new money for them.

Have you ridden one? I find the engine very lumpy. I don't know why they have to be this rough as the DR650 engine is smooth as silk. However, they get smoother with the miles I've heard. Otherwise it's a lovely bike. Remember though that they're built in Italy not Japan, this worries me.

There are plenty of people doing big miles on these so time will tell.
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Jami, as flying doctor says check out xt660.com, there is loads of info on there.

Some of the dealers over in the UK are offering good deals on fully kitted out new and nearly new bikes. Try Brackley yamaha they had one with all the extras for a little ocver the new list price.

Get one quick as the price is due to rise.

I have had mine since the summer, its a great bike, the vibes do smooth out with the miles.
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Just had a look Brackley now only have the newer 2009 Bikes in stock at the new higher price but there was a couple of good deals on biketrader £4500 for a brand new 0 miles bike looks as cheap as you can get.
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Thanks for the tips, guys! Especially about xt660.com. I had been on the site before but never on the forum which is really huge. I'm gonna check from there next.
Flyingdoctor: I haven't actually ridden the new Tenere but I've been thinking a lot about which bike to buy next. One of the main reasons for going for a Tenere is the reliability. No matter where it's made, it's still a Japanese bike and for those I trust the most. I've just had many good examples about Japanese quality.
I've noticed that there seem to be more 2008 new bikes on sale than used ones. But the thing is that I'm looking for a used one because of lower taxes. You see, I'm from Finland and I have to pay a tax for the bike before I can get it registered in here. I'm not gonna bore you with details but for a new vehicle I have to pay the VAT again. For a used one I don't. A used vehicle means that it's at least six months old and has at least 6000 kms on the clock. I guess I could do something to the mileage on the clock but still the bike needs to be registered in the UK before I buy it. I gotta think about this more. Maybe there's some chance that I could get the VAT off the UK price and pay it to Finland instead.

Oh, I guess I did bore you with the details anyway .

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UK VAT is now 15% on new vehicles. You will not have to pay that if you export the vehicle from the UK. However, if you're buying a used vehicle privately then no VAT is paid here anyway. As for finding a 6 month old one, I don't think they've been out that long yet. Maybe around March. I can see the sense of making your purchase with the strong Euro though.
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The bike would easily be six months old at spring when I would register it to Finland. It's the period between the first registration in the original country and selling date to Finland what counts. And the selling date is just a text on the paper.
Actually you're right about not paying the VAT to the UK. I thought it was only possible if you have a company but according to the tax authority's website when it comes to new vehicles the VAT will be payed to the country where the vehicle is going to be used. So I guess it's possible then. That changes things. Thanks for lightening me once again!
Yes, it's the euro/pound-ratio what made think about buying from the UK. The rate that I've been following is the official rate that my bank is using since the idea is to transfer the money to my friends account who would close the deal.
The Danes are sure paying a lot for their vehicles.

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The bike would easily be six months old at spring when I would register it to Finland. It's the period between the first registration in the original country and selling date to Finland what counts. And the selling date is just a text on the paper.
Actually you're right about not paying the VAT to the UK. I thought it was only possible if you have a company but according to the tax authority's website when it comes to new vehicles the VAT will be payed to the country where the vehicle is going to be used. So I guess it's possible then. That changes things. Thanks for lightening me once again!
Yes, it's the euro/pound-ratio what made think about buying from the UK. The rate that I've been following is the official rate that my bank is using since the idea is to transfer the money to my friends account who would close the deal.
The Danes are sure paying a lot for their vehicles.

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It doesn't help you looking for a second-hand bike in the UK, but I have seen evidence of dealers on the continent buying bikes from dealers in the UK, chosen straight off their "for sale" websites. With the Euro more or less at parity with the £, the bikes are flowing toward Europe; especially very low mileage, immaculate, pretty new H-Ds. Probably won't happen (ever) with beat-up bits of junk though!
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I Didn't know that others are doing that as well. And I thought that for once I had an original idea.

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Hi Jamie,

Yes we do pay a lot for our bikes in Denmark as we have to pay 180% import tax on ALL our vehicles.

It is worth buying bikes from the UK at the moment as the pound is so weak against the Euro and Danish kroner. I can save a lot of money buying a bike in the UK rather than Germany at the moment. That is also taking into account that I would have to fly to the UK and get the ferry back with the bike.

I think you may be cutting your chances down of getting a bike because you are targeting one particular bike which is also quite new.

There are importers who bring them into Denmark and Germany from the UK but in my experience they are nowhere near the standard of what I would buy.

I also buy bikes from Germany using this site:

Mobile.de

Here are a few Tenere to look at.

tenere Suchergebnisse: Motorräder bei mobile.de=

If you want to look at newer models, just click "EZ VON" on the left hand side and change the date.

There are some really nice bikes on there and lots of choices.

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Hi Steve

It's true that with Teneres I don't have so many bikes to choose from but the reason for me to buy a bike like that is my future trip. And I've been thinking which bike to get for that trip for about a year now, almost every day. So I'm pretty convinced now.
I also buy cars and motorcycles from Germany every now and then. From Mobile.de I've propably bought about 10 vehicles - only two of them for myself - so I did check the prices over there before I got this idea. It's true that from Mobile.de you can find all kind of shit but with a bike that's less than one year old and doesn't have many kilometers on the clock you really couldn't go wrong with it no matter where you buy it from. One advantage for me in buying from the UK is that I may not necessarely have to go there by myself this time. And it just could be that I am getting a brand new bike after all.
So how does the system work in Denmark? You get a second hand bike from Germany, bring it to Denmark and pay 180% tax for it. But 180% from which price? The price on the contract or is there some other way to determine the real value of the bike?

I'm guessing that In Finland the tax for a brand new imported Tenere is some 2000-2500 euros. And the price for a new one at the official importer is about 11000 euros.

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With the Tenere being such a new and popular model, you will find it difficult for find a second hand one.

If you find it, expect to still pay £4000+

I can help you source a new model as I am a motorcycle saleman and work in a group that sells Yamaha

I could even arrange it to be registered with the dealership before you buy and only have to transfer the registration over to you. This is known here as a "Pre-reg" bike. (pre-registered).

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Hi Ed

It's true, not much of used ones for sale. If I could get one for £4000 I'd buy it immediately.
Thanks for the offer! If you could source me a Tenere for a good price I would really appreciate that. Preferrably, if possible, relatively close to Oxfordshire since my friend who will close the deal for me lives there so he wouldn't have to drive to the other side of England to see the bike. I don't think it needs to be registered to the UK. You can contact me to my email at janaukka@lut.fi .
I've been talking to 2 Yamaha dealers now. The other one said that I can get the VAT off the price even though I'm a private person. The other one said that I can't. What's with that?

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