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Fair point, but this IS a 'bar' where no useful content is required.
My contribution ..

I think this is the urinal out the back where people are seeing how far they can piss up the wall ...

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Is the end nigh....?

This thread, although potentially interesting to start with is now just a slagging match:

yawn...

So ADV has 100K members. So what?
This site has 18K registered members, still no small number considering the speciality nature of its content, ie motorcycle travel as opposed to just more general motorcycle subjects with some trips thrown in. And any given time that I have looked on the HUBB are about 4 times as many visitors: ie potential new members.

As for ADVs popularity, if it is a US biased site, given the relative incomes of western nations, US citizens may have more disposable income so its stand to reason that quite a few will go travelling and that ADV will get a fair few reports from its relative. Its all relative.

That does not make HUBB obsolete. The moods of both are different. That is a strength not a weakness: so why try and homogenise the two?

After all, the internet is cheap and signing up on a forum is free: its not like you get a membership quota so that you have to choose which site you join.
To prove my point there are plenty of members here that say that they are happy to be members of both: why would they if they didn't think that each had something the other didn't?

As for the British motorcycle industry analogy, I don't think its relevant.
The British MC industry sat on its laurels and so its bikes were suddenly out dated. HUBB is not out dated, its just a different style. So don't compare BSA and Honda in the 60s, compare (for example) Buell and Triumph today. Both successful in their own right....

If things might benefit from updating or modernising on the HUBB, fair enough...perhaps they do, but I see no reason why a cloning effort of ADV is needed...
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My contribution ..

I think this is the urinal out the back where people are seeing how far they can piss up the wall ...

Carry on.

Correct. This is the urinal out the back of the bar. BTW, thanks.
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With every post you make Al, it becomes crystal clear why very few HUBB riders stop in at your Pub.

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With every post you make Al, it becomes crystal clear why very few HUBB riders stop in at your Pub. Keep it up mate! You're a Hell of a Publican!
Next thing you'll be slagging off the HUBB to your ADV customers. Don't worry Al, I'm sure we'll hear about it at this end.

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Well done,Clever boy!
Short memory though!
To sum up for those who weren,t paying attencion!
I live in one of the focal point of motorcycle travel,well two actually Quito and Medellin and I get to meet a load of travellers on a regular basis.Why? because I activley look them out.I,ll invite them to the pub in Quito or get together for some s in Medellin.
I get to meet more real travellers than most of the people here.I,ll run them around to get tires,brakes,hostels,whatever.It,s a laugh and I enjoy it.
Now here,s the rub for those of you with thick skulls,Once again,please pay attention.
There has been a steady decline in people comming down here using the Hubb and a steady increase in those using the Adv!!!
Now if I was in charge here I would be worried by this as it means dwindling users on this site.
Evolve the site and survive or possible slow stagnation and you know what comes next.
I shall say no more on the subject.
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Now if I was in charge here I would be worried by this as it means dwindling users on this site. Not as worried as us!
Evolve the site and survive or possible slow stagnation and you know what comes next. Good point. Thank God we have contributors like you then, 161 posts is it?
I shall say no more on the subject. Oh don't say that. We were having such a laugh as well.[/QUOTE]I,ll leave the future to the higher power here! Don't say that. Grant needs you Al.
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Not sure how relevant it is to the ongoing argument, but I have been a member of the HUBB for ages, but have never posted anything till today.

Like a number of people that must visit the site every day the idea of going RTW or even on a major trip is still just a hope/dream for me. While I enjoy reading the various forums I just don't feel as though I have anything useful to comment on due to the perceived 'hard core' nature of the site. My assorted sub thousand mile trips around the UK hardly qualify me as a motorcycle adventurer. I have visited the ADV Rider forums and they seem less focused on 'the big trips', so making themselves appear to be more accesable to us RTW wannabees that have to make do with a few days in our local country instead.

This isn't automatically a bad thing in my opinion, certainly if the day ever comes that I pluck up the courage and or sort out the finances to actually head of into the wild blue yonder it would be the HUBB that I would be using more than ADV Rider, if however I did want to just post about shorter trips and general biking then ADV Rider would appear to be the more natural home.
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To my mind, if you've got something to contribute, post it. Plenty of people ask about touring in Europe and UK for their "big" trips, so straight away you could give any info you have. I read more than I post, which is probably, no definately, a good thing.

I get into North Africa or the Arctic Circle on average every four years and then only for a few weeks. In between I'm partial to the odd winter rally and a bit of road touring. If that's not hard core enough, so be it, but it's not an impression I get here. Nothing personal and please don't let me put you off, but reading about a 120 mile round trip to have Fish and Chips in Scarborough and a cuppa in Malton does nothing for me and some (few actually) of the ADV rider reports do read like that. That I wouldn't post. Now, if you had a particular bike issue or a run in with the police on a particular bit of road during that ride, that's useful and you should post it.

If the "hardcore" nature of HU puts people off posting anything useful, then there is an issue. If it is only cutting down the number of people who stick "+1 " after your post, then I can maybe live with it. IMHO there does need to be some way of keeping the really off topic stuff in control. HU has the bar, ADV Rider has Jomamma and I thing they work.

SteveD1969, Where abouts in Gods Own County are you? There is a few of us about, so I might eventually get off my **** and suggest some informal get together. Drop me a PM if you like.

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Nothing personal and please don't let me put you off, but reading about a 120 mile round trip to have Fish and Chips in Scarborough and a cuppa in Malton does nothing for me and some (few actually) of the ADV rider reports do read like that. That I wouldn't post. Now, if you had a particular bike issue or a run in with the police on a particular bit of road during that ride, that's useful and you should post it.
I agree with the Scarborough and Malton thing, not something I would either post about or want to read about either, not that there is anything wrong with a trip to Scarborough for Fish and Chips and an Ice Cream at the Harbour Bar. That said it's a case of were the dividing line is, wouldn't really even think that a four day trip up to the highlands of Scotland and back would be worth posting on the HUBB, unless I needed some specific advice that is.

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If the "hardcore" nature of HU puts people off posting anything useful, then there is an issue.
Puts me off posting isn't really the correct term, it's not that I think my comments wouldn't be well received, it's more that I just automatically assume there is always someone that has a lot more experience that can make a much better job of offering advice.

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SteveD1969, Where abouts in Gods Own County are you? There is a few of us about, so I might eventually get off my **** and suggest some informal get together. Drop me a PM if you like.

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That would be Pontefract, where the Cakes (Liquorice) come from.
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Fair enough Al. Evolve the site is good advice. Trust me

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Not sure how relevant it is to the ongoing argument, but I have been a member of the HUBB for ages, but have never posted anything till today.

Like a number of people that must visit the site every day the idea of going RTW or even on a major trip is still just a hope/dream for me. While I enjoy reading the various forums I just don't feel as though I have anything useful to comment on due to the perceived 'hard core' nature of the site. My assorted sub thousand mile trips around the UK hardly qualify me as a motorcycle adventurer.
Steve, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself. You do have more to offer than you think with your local knowledge, and the trips you have taken. Someone from the US, who has never been to the UK can certainly find one of your trips useful information to them, hardcore or not.

I used to live in the Los Angeles area, and know the roads and highways of California pretty well. I could help a traveler get through the state, and direct them on scenic routes, just based on past knowledge.

I lived in the northern Arizona area 2 years on the Navajo Indian Reservation, and feel that it is well worth visiting, and have directed people there. If I do get the time, and a more adventure-tourer-type bike, I will even be able to ride with people on the back dirt roads to show them the parts of this area that they would miss sticking to the highways, when they are planning to pass through this part of the US.

My current residence is on the California/Arizona/Mexican border area near two border crossings, and feel my local knowledge and experience locally can help many a traveler out. When the weather gets hot, it gets hot!! I am able to warn people ahead of time, so those who might be traveling east from San Diego, where the weather might be mild, could find themselves in dangerously hot weather just 1.5 hours eastward.

Plus, I can host people, or at least meet up with some who are traveling through, and give tips as to what they can expect on their way out. Keep my few examples in mind before putting yourself down as having nothing to offer!
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+1, finally some sensible information and or encouragement on this thread. It´s a shame that we have to dig through piles and piles of crap to get there though. Funny that, I heard that somewhere else is supposed to be like that.

It´s often a struggle to find the adventure offering backroad, so local knowledge is definately key for those. In South America there is heaps of dirt on offer, but in Asia and Europe you have to look a lot harder for some interesting and fun dirt action. Maybe an idea for a sub-forum.
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Thumper Talk, UK KTM forum & several others don't own Smugmug either yet they make posting pics easy via the Image button.

All use the same forum software (v.bulletin?), must be down to the spec of the software & not who owns Smugmug........
Not sure what the problem is - the image button is there, the default image button for vBulletin: so I assume the same on all other vBulletin installs. Someone please confirm if I'm missing something here?

and yes, I am taking notes!

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