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None of the bike forums are about travel. Not Gspot, Not Beasts, Not Orange Crush, not Thumpers, NONE. These forums are a huge % of total
traffic on ADV. (but not as much as JO Momma!)
Well, no, the bike fora are about, um, bikes, not travel, so that's kind of a strange criticism.

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Even though I am American ... I don't generally like Americans at all. I don't share their values, their ignorant politics or ethnocentric and racist world view.
Of course there are exceptions. ADV does not have many exceptions.
Good to see that you are enlightened enough to ignore all of those baseless stereotypes...except when it comes to Americans. Your post reminds me of one of my all-time favorite bumper-stickers: "I hate intolerant people"
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I imagine Grant has a business plan which is honestly none of our business.

Al's comments about business sense and the motorcycle industry are interesting if slightly .

First of all, we seem to like credentials, so I'm a former motor industry account manager for a brake supplier and have dealt with some household names, so I'd hope I've learnt something. The British motorcycle industry failure wasn't about twins versus fours. It was about electric starts and indicators that keep indicating and not leaking oil. BMW, Ducati, Moto Guzzi, Harley all survived without stopping ther core product, which wasn't a four cylinder or two stroke. Triumph survived too once the real issues, government interference, trade unions that wouldn't work and above all poor management were taken away.

If you want to use that as an example and AVD rider is Honda, with the right plan HUBB could be Harley not Kawasaki. Honda remember now choose to compete with Harley on their terms, not the other way round.

In other words, product differentiation is better that competition on value.

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real failure

It is as I understand a case study worldwide about how the British motorcycle industry went from being the biggest in the world to total collapse in just a few short years.the unions etc certainly didn,t help,but the short sighted management did their part too.The example I used being the arrogance that no one would want a fancy Japanese four cylinder bike.
The situation being similar in this instance to certain people arrogantly poo-pooing Adv in favour of good old HUBB.
Once again we need a Daytona 675 today not a 78 Bonnie
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By the way which one of the failed British automobile makers were you an accountant at?
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Oh Dear!
Your first point,So what if I,ve posted more,I,d love to hear what you think my agenda is.Go ahead lets us get a glimse into your fantasy planet!
Your second point is unintelligible!
Your third point,before criticising my business sense,Tell us about your business!!!
Lastly,Have you seen the AD,s and the store here,they are giving those Cd,s away at $25 a pop.
All the petty bullshitting done here will not pay the bills that maintain this site,that will be done by the store and the Ad,s and maybe after that the owner might want to make a buck too.Evil Capitalist bastards that he is!!!
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Oh Dear. Berts spat his dummy out,ha ha.
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Once again we need a Daytona 675 today not a 78 Bonnie
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By the way which one of the failed British automobile makers were you an accountant at?
True, but 2009 Bonnevilles, Sportsters and XT660's also sell, you can compete with the CBR600, but you don't have to. If you are going to compete, sure you need a Daytona 675.

I'm not an accountant. I managed component sales, mainly on heavy stuff, DAF Trucks, Dennis, Dennis Eagle. The car stuff was Ford, Landrover and BMW, all of which I believe are just about still going
. The only ones that went on my watch were ERF and the Foden brand.

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Hope your ride is going well!

Posting pics here or in ADV is exactly the same. The DIFFERENCE is HUBB memebers (most from UK) DON't post pics. Maybe you guys are all still on dial up? I've posted pics here for a while. HUBB is just as fast as ADV.

[IMG]URL[/IMG] That's it. The URL should be to your photo hosting site.
To me, Smug mug is good value. YMMV. It always works and looks great.

Sometimes pics of old threads go away. This happens both on HUBB and ADV. At least with on my computer/ISP.

If more travelers would quit being so cheap and subscribe to Smug Mug,
They'd find how quick and easy it is to post pics here. On Smug Mug you can also sell pics (they handle it) or CD's and lots more.

Good luck, safe riding!

Patrick
Trip´s just finished. Organising shipping out of Cusco now. Damn financial crisis. The crashing pound was the last straw. Anyway, it was great, with the right bike for our needs and no mechanical issues. But I´ll argue it´s case next time there is a new thread on it.

I use Photobucket, because it´s free and it give you the link right up, which flickr doesn´t. It´s a shame that photo´s are used less. I had someone winge at me for using one once, but I argued that because it was on the prep forum, it shouldn´t matter if people would be on dial up because their prepping should have been done. But the fact that I got winged at put me off.

BTW, ride report of the trip here on ADVrider......

Buenos Aires to ......... Buenos Aires - ADVrider

Looking at photo´s is sooooo much better than reading in my opinion and I used them a lot for researching where I wanted to go and what I wanted to see. Reading on a screen sucks, that´s why most peoply use printouts for proofing things, and there is a whole industry working on LCD paper.
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Oh Dear!
Your first point,So what if I,ve posted more,I,d love to hear what you think my agenda is.Go ahead lets us get a glimse into your fantasy planet!
Your second point is unintelligible!
Your third point,before criticising my business sense,Tell us about your business!!!
Lastly,Have you seen the AD,s and the store here,they are giving those Cd,s away at $25 a pop.
All the petty bullshitting done here will not pay the bills that maintain this site,that will be done by the store and the Ad,s and maybe after that the owner might want to make a buck too.Evil Capitalist bastards that he is!!!
Al theturtleshead
Al,
Wow...nice attempt to bait me. BUT since you're such an intellectually lazy individual...I'll spell it out for you.

My moto credentials...I've done some riding...and a recent RTW on a K75s. You can check out details on my website...Front Door or google me...

My business credentials...I'm the Finance Director for a company with over $100m in revenue.

If you can't get the point I'm making...think harder...I've laid it out there. I base my opinions with significant experience and thought behind them. My travel and business success isn't entirely a result of chance.

Lastly, I apologize to the HUBB community for the tonality of my last post but if ANYONE chooses to call me out, then I'm entitled to a response.
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Al,
Wow...nice attempt to bait me. BUT since you're such an intellectually lazy individual...I'll spell it out for you.

My moto credentials...I've done some riding...and a recent RTW on a K75s. You can check out details on my website...Front Door or google me...

My business credentials...I'm the Finance Director for a company with over $100m in revenue.

If you can't get the point I'm making...think harder...I've laid it out there. I base my opinions with significant experience and thought behind them. My travel and business success isn't entirely a result of chance.

Lastly, I apologize to the HUBB community for the tonality of my last post but if ANYONE chooses to call me out, then I'm entitled to a response.
I knocked at the front door, very impressive mate, liked the gallery. As for Bert, just ignore him. I don't think he is the sharpest tool in the box, is he?
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Al,
Wow...nice attempt to bait me. BUT since you're such an intellectually lazy individual...I'll spell it out for you.

My moto credentials...I've done some riding...and a recent RTW on a K75s. You can check out details on my website...Front Door or google me...

My business credentials...I'm the Finance Director for a company with over $100m in revenue.

If you can't get the point I'm making...think harder...I've laid it out there. I base my opinions with significant experience and thought behind them. My travel and business success isn't entirely a result of chance.

Lastly, I apologize to the HUBB community for the tonality of my last post but if ANYONE chooses to call me out, then I'm entitled to a response.
Congratulations on doing something anyone with a motorcycle and a creditcard can do!!!
Also congratulations on being an employee,not an owner!
I,m sure all of our travel and business success isn,t entirely the result of chance either!!!
So a big all round good for you!!!
You Big intelect that you are!!!
Al theturtleshead
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Congratulations on doing something anyone with a motorcycle and a creditcard can do!!!
Also congratulations on being an employee,not an owner!
I,m sure all of our travel and business success isn,t entirely the result of chance either!!!
So a big all round good for you!!!
You Big intelect that you are!!!
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Dear Bert

Er...actually, that probably applies to 99% of us on here. Bert, you should try overlanding. I think you might find it also takes balls.

Best regards

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Meh!

After depatching in London for seven years and living in South America of 13 years,overlanding sounds like one long holiday to me!!! Oh yeah I remember now,that because thats what it is!
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I'm just guessing, but I'd say if Al and Edde were to meet in a bar without having gone through this pissing match, they'd get along. Maybe they still would.
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After depatching in London for seven years and living in South America of 13 years,overlanding sounds like one long holiday to me!!! Oh yeah I remember now,that because thats what it is!
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Come on back once yours have dropped
yay, I just knew it. I knew it was only a matter of time before you bit.
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Maybe it's just me, but have you all posted 11 pages of non bike-related, non travel related posts criticising Advrider for posting large amounts of non-bike related,
non bike-related, non-travel related posts, whist patting yourselves on the back about how on this site posts are only meaningful bike travel related posts?
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Maybe it's just me, but have you all posted 11 pages of non bike-related, non travel related posts criticising Advrider for posting large amounts of non-bike related,
non bike-related, non-travel related posts, whist patting yourselves on the back about how on this site posts are only meaningful bike travel related posts?
Fair point, but this IS a 'bar' where no useful content is required.
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