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Since you think quantity matters...what would the following mean?

Out of 136 posts on this thread, you've posted 21 of them....more than any other contributor to this thread...
That he has an opinion?
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Since you think quantity matters...what would the following mean?

Out of 136 posts on this thread, you've posted 21 of them....more than any other contributor to this thread...
What exactly has that got to do with the point at hand Edde!!Well done on your adding up skills!
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I haven't checked out that ADV thread, but quantity matters when you're looking for a place to stay. Just saying...
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I like both sites and each has there strengths. I haven't read this whole thread (which is a first on the HUBB) but does it really matter? When doing research I generally go to both sites and get the download.

Sometimes ADVrider is better sometimes it's the HUBB. However, something about the former, if you ask a question you will always get an answer. You may get a lot of faff but people are just trying to help and you can't blame them for that. I'm not taking anything away from this site it is a veritable gold mine but you don't always get answers to your questions.

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I post more on ADV than HUBB. I like it there. Yes, Jo Momma can be daunting but get to know it and you can be "sucked in" to the banter. If you don't like it, stay out. I really don't see the problem mollydog and alibaba seem to have with it. Their assertions are pretty much unfounded as far as I can see and little go beyond petty mudslinging.
I don’t have a problem with adv-rider, as I said earlier I’m happy it exists. In fact I post there from time to time.
What I say is that the places are different, and that my favourite is HU. It looks like people have problems with my reasons for this and I’ sorry if I hurt your feelings.

If I need a cheap hotel-room in Utah I promise to ask on adv-rider, okay?


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I don’t have a problem with adv-rider, as I said earlier I’m happy it exists. In fact I post there from time to time.
What I say is that the places are different, and that my favourite is HU. It looks like people have problems with my reasons for this and I’ sorry if I hurt your feelings.

If I need a cheap hotel-room in Utah I promise to ask on adv-rider, okay?


It’s a weird feeling to agree with Mollydog.
Don't understand the "Utah" jibe but either way, no upset here. Happy both exist too.
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...Beasts and Thumpers both are endless droning on about Bike vs Bike. Not a word about travel.
None of the bike forums are about travel. Not Gspot, Not Beasts, Not Orange Crush, not Thumpers, NONE...
That'll be because they're bike forums and not about travel.
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I haven't checked out that ADV thread, but quantity matters when you're looking for a place to stay. Just saying...
Dave, you've been around a couple continents...you ought to know that following the flock isn't always a good thing...

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What exactly has that got to do with the point at hand Edde!!Well done on your adding up skills!
I'm pointing out the fact that you've posted more often than anbody else...and after reading ALL of you're posts, I'm still not sure what your agenda is.

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Bmw or Ktm,Digestives or Hobnobs,Barclays or LLoyds,Apples or Oranges,Cornflakes or Rice Crispies.
All the same but different.
Don,t you get it! When you can get all the HUBB info on ADV and lots more,why visit the HUBB
It,s a business decision for the people who run the HUBB
You can't get all the HUBB on ADV and vice versa...saying so is kinda like telling the motorcycling community that your KTM is the perfect steed for overland/RTW travel.

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I guess you,re just not business people and your blinkered attitudes say it all.You people are like the British motorcycle industry in the 1970,s.
<SNIP>
No vision of the future!
Lets hope the HUBB doesn,t go the same way as it,s users!
And if you're such a knowledagble business person, you ought to know that your logo is not a kind compliment to KTM

Lastly, understand that the bottom line for Grant and Susan isn't measured in $$s or Sterling or page views, or members, or oddometers...its measured a slight bit differently...

I for one find that refreshing, inspiring and continue to support their effort(and the community its fostered).
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Your taking this comment out of context.

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Business ?

Maybe, like his namesake, Al's posts are a brilliant, albeit slightly hidden under the shell, way of using the HUBB to gain exposure for his pub in SA while also creating traffic flow for Grant.

Maybe this thread's 'good' for both Al and Grant. If it's a win win then Al's brilliant.

Either that or the ADVer's in SA are slowing down giving Al lots of time between pouring pints.

Anyway....that was a fun interlude...now back to helping Marty find an engine....
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I don´t really understand what the issue is, but I´m a bit of a forum whore, and I do ADVrider as well. Have to say that for me it´s not all that US orientated as the Aussie section is very active. It´s more of a trail ride focus though, but is that not adventure as well? I think this site suffers a bit of the same arrogance as the backpacker trails which ADV doesn´t.

Being on my second big bike trip now, I can definately tell that more and more people I meet on the road are regulars on ADV and less here. Which is a change from the last trip. The amount of info was one reason I heard. I don´t find that I need to sift through crap.

Personally the photo aspect is a definately plus. I prefer to look at pickies than read about that bolt, at the back just befind that clamp. A problem I have with the UK F650 site. Internet is everywhere, and broadband is following. Especially in South America.

I never go to Jo momma, as it´s a waste of time, but it´s a good idea to get rid of the wankers from the other awesome section with it.
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Hope your ride is going well!

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Dave, you've been around a couple continents...you ought to know that following the flock isn't always a good thing...



I'm pointing out the fact that you've posted more often than anbody else...and after reading ALL of you're posts, I'm still not sure what your agenda is.



You can't get all the HUBB on ADV and vice versa...saying so is kinda like telling the motorcycling community that your KTM is the perfect steed for overland/RTW travel.



And if you're such a knowledagble business person, you ought to know that your logo is not a kind compliment to KTM

Lastly, understand that the bottom line for Grant and Susan isn't measured in $$s or Sterling or page views, or members, or oddometers...its measured a slight bit differently...

I for one find that refreshing, inspiring and continue to support their effort(and the community its fostered).
Oh Dear!
Your first point,So what if I,ve posted more,I,d love to hear what you think my agenda is.Go ahead lets us get a glimse into your fantasy planet!
Your second point is unintelligible!
Your third point,before criticising my business sense,Tell us about your business!!!
Lastly,Have you seen the AD,s and the store here,they are giving those Cd,s away at $25 a pop.
All the petty bullshitting done here will not pay the bills that maintain this site,that will be done by the store and the Ad,s and maybe after that the owner might want to make a buck too.Evil Capitalist bastards that he is!!!
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Al,
You seem to have a very clear picture of how to proceed here and a plethora of ideas on how to turn HUBB around. I'm sure Grant would be more than open to your brilliant solutions on this subject.

So don't wait mate .... let's here it!

But does it really need turning around?
I still contend ADV is information overload. If one uses the search functions only, then you can find interesting stuff. But it's a lot of time and reading. For browsing its simply overwhelming, IMO.

To illustrate. On HUBB go to New Posts. Click on "Last 12 Hours". On average you get about 50 posts. Now go to ADV and click on "New Posts".
You'll see that in the same 12 hours (or so) you get about 500 posts!!!

ADV Ride report forum has its occasional beauties but much of ADV are simply Which Bike forums for individual brands and category of bikes.

Beasts and Thumpers both are endless droning on about Bike vs Bike. Not a word about travel.
None of the bike forums are about travel. Not Gspot, Not Beasts, Not Orange Crush, not Thumpers, NONE. These forums are a huge % of total
traffic on ADV. (but not as much as JO Momma!)

A year or so ago Lone Rider and some other ADV'ers campaigned for and got a "Trip Planning" forum. This was to give ADV something like we have here on HUBB. It is a very slow forum for the most part and considering the 100,000 plus members there. But that is really one of the few areas of ADV where travel is discussed.

HUBB does not focus on bikes so much but info is here. Most HUBB travelers hang here before their trip, during prep, then during their trip but then move on with their lives afterwards and we never see them again. They never made HUBB a permanent attachment to their lives as so many have at ADV.

If you go back to 2001 and follow through till now, you can easily see this pattern. Folks come and go.

ADV is much more social overall with a fair number of rude asshats to ruin the whole experience for many. It's also, as I said, very bike oriented .... not travel oriented.
Lastly .....
Even though I am American ... I don't generally like Americans at all. I don't share their values, their ignorant politics or ethnocentric and racist world view.
Of course there are exceptions. ADV does not have many exceptions.


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They must have done something that really pissed you off over there.That one hell of a chip you,re carrying there!!!
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