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kentfallen 25 Feb 2008 19:54

How NOT to ride!

I reckon this guy is lucky to be alive, he's not wearing a helmet or any kind of protective clothing -

LiveLeak.com - Brutal Car and Motorbike accident

kentfallen 25 Feb 2008 20:00

This ones even worse -

LiveLeak.com - Biker crashing into car on intersection


It goes to show how bloody vulnerable we all are out there....

ta-all-the-way 25 Feb 2008 20:02

never mind the bollocks
Thanks but no thanks, I won't even look. I'm still trying to build up my biker balls. Reading, hearing, looking at rough stuff does not help me get any more confident. God I can't even get out the car park at this rate.

I rode a 125 for years, there was never an issue back then, prehaps it's cause I was 25 and living a carefree lifestyle. I'm calling having to much info is also bad for ones progression.

Enjoy your vid.


kentfallen 25 Feb 2008 20:06

This accident clearly demonstrates the increased hazards at night when traveling fast - LiveLeak.com - Shocking Tragic Accident kills Officer

THIS WAS A FATAL! (Rest in Peace) IT IS CNN film footage so is not too graphic

The purpose of posting these is to show new bikers how vulnerable they are... This is NOT entertainment...

kentfallen 25 Feb 2008 20:16


Slow down at a major crossroads / road junction otherwise this can happen -

LiveLeak.com - Traffic Accident at istanbul Turkey

kentfallen 25 Feb 2008 20:21


LiveLeak.com - Car vs Motorcycle caught on traffic cam

SLOW DOWN!!!!!!!

DougieB 25 Feb 2008 20:23

enough already, gore-tv is not useful or productive.

ta-all-the-way 25 Feb 2008 20:23

fright night
Whats up is it fright night tonight? Do you guys save this for when the season gets dryer. Is it to keep the bike population down. We used to do that as local surfers, we'd scare the guys into coming out in big surf. More waves for us. It's instinct I think to behave like that. How about showing videos of dude's crashing without helmets and protective clothing? Is that instinctive? I don't think so. I actually couldn't care less for a dude who's not taking his life seriously. I'm not gonna watch him and say ahhh shame poor dude.

kentfallen 25 Feb 2008 20:27


I know where you're coming from but surely there is nothing wrong with posting a few graphic examples of bad riding? If it helps to slow a few of us down a bit then it's useful. I find these films as shocking as anyone...

If you don't want to look then don't - but I'd rather see them and adjust my riding style accordingly. As I have already stated they are NOT entertainment it's never nice to see fellow bikers getting hurt...


ta-all-the-way 25 Feb 2008 20:32

okay, withouth having a look at the vid's can you explain to me what was the error made by the biker in each case. So that I can learn from it without having to look at the gore. You can leave out the dude without the helmet and any other dudes who are high. Just straight forward errors will do. If you don't mind. I am interested in knowing what they did.

DougieB 25 Feb 2008 20:36

usual errors. failed to look far enough up the road, failed to anticipate. end of story.

kentfallen 25 Feb 2008 20:39

Surely it's up to the individual to have a look at these and then judge for themselves how they can avoid the same pitfall(s)? I personally see no harm in showing it the way it is... If someone slows down as a consequence then it's worth showing it.

THE big killer in all these films is EXCESSIVE SPEED and lack of awareness and failure to compensate for the prevailing road conditions. If we all slow down a bit, we shall all stand a better chance of surviving an R.T.C like this it really is that simple...

Safe riding

DougieB 25 Feb 2008 20:59

"THE big killer in all these films is EXCESSIVE SPEED"

that's nonsense, and irresponsible (in my opinion) if you are trying to educate new riders. You can ride very fast and be safe. You can ride very slow and be dangerous. Video number one is not riding fast (it's the only one I watched). Some riders (UK) ride slow in the gutter, and die as a result. Don't mislead new riders that speed is the over-riding cause of death to bikers. It's a very authoritarian and police-like stance, and likely to be ignored.

Speed is for the most part irrelevant on its own, it's usually a failure to ride to the conditions that causes crashes. And a failure to read the road and the hazards.

MarkLG 25 Feb 2008 21:02


Originally Posted by kentfallen (Post 176661)
If we all slow down a bit, we shall all stand a better chance of surviving an R.T.C like this it really is that simple...

Safe riding

And if we all stay at home then nobody gets hurt at all....

To be honest I've got better things to do with my time than surf the net looking for videos of people killing or injuring themselves. I can't see why you feel the need to post these links on this forum - are you new to the internet and just discovering the crap that's out there??
These sort of videos do little to promote road safety - unfortunately some people find this sort of thing entertaining and enjoy the sensationalism of them. We're all adults and know the consequences of coming off a bike (often from experience).

MarkLG 25 Feb 2008 21:06


Originally Posted by DougieB (Post 176664)
It's a very authoritarian and police-like stance, and likely to be ignored.

Think I read on one of his other posts he's a retired rozzer. Explains a lot.
Probably best not to mention the time I did 175mph on the public road when I had my fireblade:nono:

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