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Old 4 Jun 2013
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Sorry but, yes, you do need a CdP.

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Thanks, I thought as much.
Viking, did you ship from the UK? If so, who did you use for the shipping? And who was your clearing agent in WB? Did you use RoRo or container?
John
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Hi John,
No, I shipped out of Lisbon in Portugal, in a 20 foot container with a company called Macs. They are well known, and also ship out of the UK. Foleys
Overland in the UK are using them also, as an alternative they can take care of the whole thing for you, top company.

I did it all myself, with the help of the Portuguese leg of Macs. Cost 2200 US$, and took a couple of weeks.

They work with a company in WB, called Manica. Very good, and there's a super fellow called Max Benade (max.benade@wfs.com.na +264 81 124 7520) he got my Land Rover out of the port on a Saturday, during a strike.....in his free time!
To clear a 20 foot is about 900-1000 US$, depending on how much you have already paid, when shipping out.

WB is very efficient, everything works and everyone knows what they are doing.
Make sure to check your passport if you go though......long story.
I'll be there in August, going up north and into Botswana/Zambia.

Cheers, Ib.
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I've received one quote from First Base Freight of £2190 to ship a 20ft container to from UK to Walvis Bay. This is a lot more than I was hoping it would be, but equally I'm not keen on roll on off.

I'm waiting for 2 other quotes to come back - one from MACS (via John Good as UK agent), and one from Russells Freight.

Does anyone have a view on what a "reasonable" price from the UK to WB is?

I was initially encouraged by the cost of shipping RoRo at £780 (which was cheaper than RoRo to TZ), but the container quote is a lot more than to TZ...
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Hi John,
Try and contact Paul (top bloke) at Foleys, they ship all the time.
I got outstanding service from them.
I currently have two tires in transit with them to WB.....

Cheers, Ib.
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Thanks Viking. I'll give him a call. John
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We used Foley's too.

As I recall it was not far off that amount in 2008 though ...

However, if Foleys have stuff to ship out too (like Viking's tyres for example) they will contribute to the cost. Quite a few things came out in our container.
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We're currently travelling north through Africa, initially intending to go from Cape Town to Cairo, but with Egypt still looking uncertain we are looking into other exit strategies. I read your comments about Dar being a nightmare, so maybe Mombasa is a better option to ship our car back to the UK. Does anyone have a shipping contact there?
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My Toyota is now safely sealed up in a container bound for Walvis Bay. It should arrive on 3 September.

I have been reading other threads about insurance, and it sounds like 3rd party insurance in Namibia is automatically provided through a fuel duty supplement. My agent in Namibia has said that more comprehensive insurance is available but at a cost - about 10% of the vehicle value! I'm guessing most people just use the free third party cover?

On another note, I haven't yet worked out how to get a permit for the skeleton coast - I want to go as far north as Terrace Bay, abd understand I need a permit to get up there. Sounds like a transit permit can be got in Swakopmund, but only with an accommodation booking in Terrace Bay - and what's the best way to get the accommodation booking in Terrace Bay??? I have emailed a website called "Madbookings" who advertise camping there, but am waiting to hear back. From other sources I've read it sounds like camping is not an option in Terrace Bay anyway. Does anyone have any other suggestions? I'm then planning to exit east via Springbokwasser and then continue north to Kaokoland.

Finally, does anyone have a recommendation for a nice campsite near Walvis Bay? Thanks!
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Hi John,
As all our camping gear is stored in the car during its journey to Walvis Bay we have always opted for a little self catering flatlet called Ana's Inn. There is camping along by the lagoon which also has self catering but at a price.
Permits for Terrace Bay are available from the Namibian Tourist Board but are only valid during the summer months as far as I am aware. There is camping at Henties Bay and also at 3 mile along the coast.
After leaving the tar road and travelling inland you will find camping at Palmwag and Khorixas.
Do you T4A on your Gps? they also produce excellent paper maps full of detail.

Margaret (will give you more details if you want them)
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Thanks Margaret

So do you think it's not possible to get to the Springbokwasser gate from the coastal road outside the summer months? And would I need a permit to get to Henties Bay? I had hoped to get further up the coast road, but it sounds like I may need to turn inland at Henties Bay. Is it necessary to pre book camping there? The self catering flat sounds like a nice idea while we wait for the car to arrive...
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Sorry John I must not have made myself very clear - let's start again! After leaving Walvis you can travel north on the salt road through Henties Bay at any time of year without a permit till you reach the Springwasser gate. At that point you buy the permit to travel through the 'park' both north and also eastwards at Torra bay on the C39 towards Palmwag etc . It is Terrace bay where the camping is limited.

If you would like the details of Ana's Inn I will p.m.them to you.

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We're currently travelling north through Africa, initially intending to go from Cape Town to Cairo, but with Egypt still looking uncertain we are looking into other exit strategies. I read your comments about Dar being a nightmare, so maybe Mombasa is a better option to ship our car back to the UK. Does anyone have a shipping contact there?
Three years ago I had a contact with SPEDAG in Mombasa, unfortunately I cannot retrieve the correspondence but I remember that they seemed quite professional (remember TIA anyway).
You may do a google search to locate them.
Hope it helps.
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Hi Margaret. Thanks for clarifying, but looking at the map I am still unsure about this - do you mean you can continue north of Henties Bay without a permit as far as the Ugab gate (rather than Springbokwasser gate)? From what I've read you need a permit to go any further up the the coast than the Ugab. And is it possible to get a permit to transit through from Ugab, turning east before Torra Bay onto the C39 and exiting by the Springbokwasser gate, without an overnight reservation? It sounds like camping is only open in Torra Bay from Dec to Jan, and as you say, there don't appear to be camping options in Terrace Bay. It doesn't look too far to drive from the Ugab gate to Springwasser gate in a day though - if it's allowed! And yes, it would be great if you could PM me the details of Ana's Inn. Thanks, John
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Right John. Out now till mid afternoon but will pm you then.
Where are you? I'll also give you my phone no as it is sometimes easier to talk than write.

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