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Tinakarori 18 Jul 2011 10:34

NGO and UN Agency vehicles
I would be interested in any observations that HUBB travellers can offer, of the ratio between Land-Rovers and Land Cruisers (all models) in use in whichever part of Africa nowadays by the NGOs and UN agencies.

priffe 18 Jul 2011 10:52

I may be biased here, but I see Landcruisers. And the occasional Nissan. Always surprised when I see a Landrover. In West Africa.

Squire 18 Jul 2011 11:39

it depends on a number of factors
It is too broad of a question. Key elements to take into account in your analysis are: Costs (Yen or £), NGO or UN (very different), personal preferences of the person managing the procurement process, quantity purchased, funding sources (eg tied assistance or not), expected purpose and use, expected duration (projects vs regular operations), availability or not at any given time, exchange rate and others. There are also obvious geographical disparities, for example you'll hardly find Land Rovers in Egypt, plenty of defenders in Kenya, Jeep Cherokee in Haiti, Land Cruiser Prado in many West African countries, Pajero in Asia, etc. The development assistance world is a universe in itself, it seems risky to generalize, but indeed a good source of inspiration to find out what lasts! I always smile seeing those Peugeot 504 Station Wagon rolling still, those cars were tough!

Bobduro 18 Jul 2011 13:58

I spent years working for NGO's in Africa and Asia and like almost every other NGO we always used Landcruisers. Cheaper, incredibly reliable and good for sourcing spare parts and mechanical expertise locally when you do need it.

joova 19 Jul 2011 11:07

I've worked for INGOs and UN Peacekeeping Operations in West and Central Africa. NGOs that do a lot of field work generally go for the LC hard top/troopie model if they can afford it. Recent peacekeeping missions that I've worked for have generally used LC 150 Prados for civilian staff, as well as a bunch of Nissan Patrols 4.2 for more of the field based work. The senior management had access to the LC 80/100/200, including some bulletproof ones.

Landrovers are just not as popular or cost-effective. I see it as a form of Darwinism, it's survival of the strongest, and Toyota and Nissan are generally just seen to be more reliable than Landrovers.

This is not to kickstart a debate between LR and LC, each to their own in that regard. But to answer the question, generally in West and Central Africa, Toyota and Nissan are preferred by the UN and by INGOs.

misterpaul 19 Jul 2011 16:10

On my recent Cape Town to Cairo trip through all the usual east side countries I don't remember seeing any NGO LRs. Everyone seems to be using 78 series troopies or 79 series utes. Also local police, national parks, ambulances all using 78 troopies / 79 utes.

priffe 19 Jul 2011 16:46

I remember at Essakane some years back it was (to me then) as much a huge congregation of Landcruisers as a music festival. The further away from the cities you get, the rougher the terrain, the more LC you see.

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