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Old 8 May 2006
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Kenya to Ethiopia

Any news on the rumored repairs to the road between Kenay and Ethiopia? Can it be ridden now, or is it still wisest to load the bike onto a truck in a convoy and cross that way?
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The road condition between Moyale & Isiolo is not great, but it was definately rideable twelve months ago. The section between Turbi (120kms south of Moyale) & Marsabit can be a bit rough on your tires as there are a lot of sharp rocks - make sure you have spare tubes. Marsabit to Isiolo is heavily corrugated and lots of loose gravel.

Avoid the temptation to go via the convoy as it is horrendously slow.
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Thank you Matt. might could be that by the time we have worked our way to that corner, the road will be better. not likely, but one can hope.
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We drove this piste in February this year and I can confirm Matt Roach's info. Heavily corrugated in some parts but no major problem.
Have a safe trip
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Thank you Albert. The tires on a motorscooter, while smaller than those on a cycle, are much thicker and more heavily constructed. With your input added to Matt's, I think that by going slowly we should have no problems. How long did it take you to make the trip from decent road to decent road again? We will be going south to north and shipping out of Djiubouti and if we are too tired by then, might not go to Ethiopia but leave out of Kenya for India.

hope you are having a good trip.
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locals were shooting each other and chucking grenades (might have been just one grenade) when I was there, approximately 14 days after Matt was there. The army closed the road for a further 10 days to mop up the mess.

Situations change all the time, you'll only know what it's like when you get there. Even the guy at the customs post on the Kenya side that morning (I was heading south) didn't know about the problems just 60 k's south.
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damn! that sounds like great fun doug. that's the time when you tell the pilon rider to jump off and push. being shot at is not fun but the odds of being killed accidentally are pretty slim. in truth, the odds of collecting a hole where there shouldn't be one are pretty slim. it was once estimated that for every man killed in combat something like 8000 rounds were expended. I have been bumped twice though and don't like the idea of it happening again. paint a bullseye on the passenger's jacket, ride fast.

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"damn! that sounds like great fun doug."

sh*t myself, thought i would die, ended my trip. no, not fun.
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the real fun is when you are finally safe and you hear your heart winding down to a nice 200mph and you realize "I Made IT" then life is fun again. glad you are okay. let's hope that things get settled down before the next travellers go through.
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Thank you Albert. The tires on a motorscooter, while smaller than those on a cycle, are much thicker and more heavily constructed. With your input added to Matt's, I think that by going slowly we should have no problems. How long did it take you to make the trip from decent road to decent road again? We will be going south to north and shipping out of Djiubouti and if we are too tired by then, might not go to Ethiopia but leave out of Kenya for India.

hope you are having a good trip.
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It just occurred to me that you might be able to fit agriculteral tyres. to scooter wheels....whilst not much for sppeed, they can be even tougher
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hmm. now that is an idea I had never considered. i rode cycles for so many years that entertaining a thought about scooters is a new process. i will look into the sizes for ag tires and if the fit that would be one heck of a solution for the nasty parts. use them for the stretch of horrible road then sell them or just leave them. thanks for the idea
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Marsabit-Isiolo stretch is quiet

at least for the last couple weeks so you shouldn't have to much trouble. The local warfare is mainly over cattle, though they occasionally stop people for "road tax", so shouldn't be a worry. It is a beautiful stretch. Safe travels.
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thanks for the update. I never have any problems contributing the local economy even via "tax" mysterious fine, whatever. I figure I was by chance and good luck born in a nation that allowed me the wherewithal to travel, provide college educations for my kids, medical care and not worry about food, waater, or safety. If someone less blessed asks for a few dollars out of need and deprivation, as long as it doesn't endanger me, no problem.
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You have the right attitude, just put the bulk of your important items away from your road tax. No harm no fowl.
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...the odds of being killed accidentally are pretty slim.
Yeah, that may be so, but the odds of being killed deliberately are a heck of a lot higher. The portion of Eastern Kenya that abuts on Ethiopia is ethnically Somali, not ethnically Bantu, and the south-eastern part of Ethiopia is full of refugees from the conflicts in South Sudan. Many of those refugees brought their weapons with them.

Do your homework concerning politics, security, and local turmoil in the area before you go.

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...I figure I was by chance and good luck born in a nation that allowed me the wherewithal to travel, provide college educations for my kids, medical care and not worry about food, waater, or safety. If someone less blessed asks for a few dollars out of need and deprivation, as long as it doesn't endanger me, no problem.
Well, that's a very noble attitude, but the likeihood that the aggressor you meet enroute will be equally as thoughtful and just ask for 'a few dollars' is zero to nil. There are a lot of folks in that area who have refined cattle raiding and cattle rustling to a fine art, and when you show up, you will be considered to be a two-legged form of cattle. Why should they settle for a few dollars (a pittance) when they can take everything you have got?

I'm not trying to put down the local people, but I have spent enough years medivacing 12 year old cattle tenders out of South Sudan who have bullet wounds from cattle rustling or other robbery efforts to know that it is a rough place. The 12 year olds that simply had bullet wounds were the lucky ones - the person who shot at them didn't have good aim, that's why they were still alive.

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