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Old 24 Aug 2007
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Gabon-Congo Crossing

This is my first post after a few weeks' browsing. This appears to be an excellent, no-nonsense site.

I leave Monday for Libreville and will spend through early October getting to Windhoek by public transport and hitching. My main concern is the Angola visa, but previous posts cover this pretty well--i.e., hope for a transit visa at Matadi (turned down even for a transit visa in NYC last week).

So the issue I would like some help with is Gabon to Brazzaville. My idea had been to train to Franceville and then head across from Leconi to Oyo via what appears the most direct west-east route, and then down the good road to Brazzaville (from there ferry to Kinshasa, then to Matadi, then figure out Angola). There appears to be one post confirming that this route is doable (at least, saying that the road from Franceville to Brazzaville "should be good"--not sure of the exact route). But most people seem to take the coast road, though I think there is still a Ninja issue there. Any suggestions one way or the other? I am a very experienced Africa traveler, but this will be my first trip to Central Africa.

I would be doing this sometime between approximately September 10 and 20, and am not sure how heavily the rainy season kicks in around that area by then.

Thanks very much for any help.

CK
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Gabon to Brazzaville

I just did that route about 1 month ago.

The route from Fansville through to Lekoni is not bad. There is a nice hotel there and one can go and see the various canyons around there.

From there the road gets more difficult, although sandy, which means that even after heavy rain it should still be possible. We had very heavy thunder showers on that route and made it through ok.

Once you get to Oyo there is brand new tarmac.

I am really not sure about the public transport situation on this route and you might have to wait a few days for a lift.
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and brazzaville kinshasa angola crossing by car?

I'm planning this route for 2008...by car (Wolkswaguen Passat 1995) from Spain...Do you think it's passable all te way down there(mauritania, mali, niger, Nigeria seem ok but the rest it's unknown for me, specially the Camerun, Congo, DR Congo to Angola path...
what about isas on route? Thank¡s for sharing the info !
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In Congo and Congo DR there are some pretty big mud holes. I guess it is difficult and someone must be dragging you through with a 4x4, especially if there has been rain.

On main road to Matadi from Cabinda (imagine if this hole is full of water ):

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Oyo to Ouesso

UASky, do you or anyone know how far the tarmac runs north of Oyo?
I presume it is headed for Ouesso for the logging but from there it's a dead or sticky end as far as getting into/out of Cameroon goes...??

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wOW! what a pic! We are plannig the trip starting on march 2008 in Barcelona..planing to spend 4 months in africa (we will try to reach Cape Town). No tarmac means problems as a Wolkswagen passat 2.0 has just 2WD. Any sgestions about what road we MUST take from CAmeroon to SA? We al have seen Peugeots and other Miracoulous cars in africa but I would like to know if you see those machines aroud those roads...
If not possible the we will try to find out if any public ransport can bring us from Cameroon to SA, but that option is less interesting...We can not aford a 4WD and riding a 2WD car in sand is not our favourite game..Any sugestions will be welcome!
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Update--Belated

Well, by the time I got the first reply above I was already in Leconi (so out of email range) awaiting a ride. Thanks anyway to one and all. I thought I updated this thread last year but it appears to have slipped my mind. Not sure how good this information still is, but here goes (cut and pasted from a couple of my posts on another site):

Border Crossing
I crossed the border going east from Leconi to Kabala (Gabon) to Lekety (Congo) to Oyo. I had arrived in Leconi on a Friday, and I gather transport is found more easily during the week (and arguably found more easily in Franceville than in Leconi). I had to wait a few days. Do your border formalities at Leconi (I had a Congo visa already so can't help if you don't have it in-hand).

Though transport is by no means regular at the moment, a paved highway is being built now between Bongoville and Oyo. It may be no coincidence that Bongoville is the hometown of Gabon's President-for-life Omar Bongo, while Oyo is just next to the hometown of Congo President Denis Sassou-Nguesso--Bongo's father-in-law. Isn't that sweet? Anyway, the 300km or so from Leconi to Oyo can now be done in a long day's drive (about 12 hours in my case) during the dry season, with the hitch being finding a ride if you don't have your own transport. Your best bet is to get a ride with a merchant, or with one of the highway company's trucks, or with one of the infrequent cars that take passengers.

The best and fastest route to Brazzaville from eastern Gabon is currently the one I took (from Oyo it's a few hours on tarred road to Brazzaville), and it will only get faster if the road is finished. However, if you want to just take the first transport that comes along then the other two options from Leconi are: (a) to go farther south to Lekana (Congo), which most people said involves a ferry crossing, and get a bus from there to Ngo and then Brazzaville (all night drive on bad road to Lekana, then long busride to Brazzaville); or (b) to go up north to Ewo and then on to Oyo from there, but this could be a five-day thing.

There is still the most-used route closer to the coast, but this interior route is a good alternative and seems likely to become a major crossing point once the road is finished.

So eventually a couple of nice guys from Chad took me across at Lekety. It cost 50,000 CFA, and by that time I wasn't interested in arguing about the price. There was also an added cost in the form of really hefty "extra fees"--I had never paid these before in my life, preferring to wait officials out rather than encourage this behavior, but in this situation I was with a couple of foreign guys trying to get their stuff to market (and doing me a favor). I didn't want to inconvenience them, so I ponied up 5,000 CFA at Kabala (the Gabon side of the border), and 5,000 at Okoyo in Congo. Apparently everyone has to pay this whopping amount, so this "tax" may be the reason why the road is less used than it might otherwise be--one hopes this will change once the roadwork is finished. I have no idea whether stalling and argument would work as well here as they have for me elsewhere in Africa, but as I say I didn't try.

We were in a good 4WD vehicle and it had not rained much recently. The 300km trip took about 12 hours, and we were not in a rush. The road is mainly sand, not dirt, so a little rain is not as bad a thing as it could be.

We left Leconi at about 06:45, arriving at Kabala around 07:30. Reached Mbie at around 08:30, where we stopped for awhile. We passed by Amina and then Ongali by about 10:00, and after another stop were at Lekety (maybe 70km on from Leconi) by about 10:45 for customs and police. Okoyo was less than an hour further on, but between formalities at Lekety and at Okoyo we ate up another hour and a half or so. By 13:00 we headed northeast, arriving at Boundji about 16:20. Boundji is abut 80km from Oyo, and about half of the remaining distance would be on good tar road. By 18:00 we were at Obouya and the blacktop road, and at Oyo by 19:00. The route is pretty, and I have never seen such numbers and varieties of butterflies as on this route--huge clouds of them would lift off the road on our approach. We also got to sample some damned good papayas along the way.

Lodging
At Oyo I stayed at Alima Palace, maybe 300 meters south of the main drag (there is a prominent sign for the place to the right as you come from the direction of Edou, the presidential village). It cost 10,000 CFA for a small room with ensuite (dank and leaky) bathroom and a/c. The place was fine for a night, but I suspect it sees more use from clients who are intent on something beyond sleeping. If you go out at night remember to take your torch for the long walk to the main road.

There is also a restaurant and hotel right on the main drag (on the left side, opposite the sign for Alima Palace and next to the Celtel office), with decent, plush rooms clearly designed for adult entertainment. The name is "Chez" something or other. The food is good--prices run maybe 1,500 CFA or so for a meat-plus-sauce-plus-bread meal and a .

Communications
There is as yet no internet connection in Oyo. A Celtel sim card will set you back 2,000 CFA. I bought mine in Oyo. For some reason mine worked well with my Nokia phone but not with the Motorola Razr even though the latter is supposedly more versatile. I knew there was a reason to carry two phones...
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CK - good to see a familiar face on here!!! Enjoy the trip - I'll be watching out for updates on here and not on ABTT then?!

Have fun!

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Quickest route through now

Hi,

I am in Luanda at present heading north - got my Angola visa in Windhoek via a connection - was flatly refused without some inside help.

Now since rainy season is upon is in Gabon/Cameroon, does anyone know the fastest way from here to Yaounde? I believe I can get my Cameroon visa at the Gabon/Cameroon border (correct?), and already have both Congos and Gabon, so I am thinking I would like to stay on tar as much as possible, skip the coastal Point Noire route, and go Luanda - Matadi - Kinshasa/Brazzaville - Oyo - Leconi - (Some place to turn north - anyone with a name of a place or some sort of landmark???) - Yaounde.

Is this the most direct and most tarred route for the rainy season?

The kicker - my GPS got run over by a truck south of Benguela, so I am flying blind until Yaounde when I am picking up an old backup unit that is being sent, so anything too crazy will find me lost in the bush.

Thanks - Matt
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GPS Tracks

I recorded my track on that route, if you want I could e-mail it to you. It is about 146kb. e-mail me directly on anthony.radford@gmx.net if you want it.
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Hey Matt,

we drove this route in december 06 and this was a time with heavy rains. As also quite good described by michaelo here you will find there either tar or not too bad sandroads and further on in Gaboon quite well prepared and solid gravelroads. I don't think that you will really miss the gps cause even on the "difficult" part between Obuya and Lekoni there are not that much junctions and if, there are living helpful people.
Have a look at this for detailed information of the whole route. Maybe you will post your experience there for others also.

@Chris Scott
We tried to get to Ouesso directly in 12/06. Than the tar road ended half the way between Obuya and Owanda but construction working was in progress. The way to Makoua was impassable due to heavy rain. Some bridges near Makoua were gone as well as the barque at Makoua. For a few days even the pirogues didn't cross the river. Everybody who wanted to reach Ouesso had to walk the last 10ks or so by feet to reach the riverbank. From Makoua to Ouesso the things were better, so we heard. From Ouesso to Yokaduma/Gaboon you have two alternatives to go, which are both used by timber-trucks, so you have heavy corrugations there. One is via Sembe to Moloundou and the other is with two river crossings by barques, one a few ks south of Ouesso and the other a few ks north of Ouesso. On this way you hit the Moloundou-Yokadouma road somewhere in the middle.
Sorry for the late feedback, didn't recognized this thread.

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