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panderingpeter 16 Jan 2008 20:13

cost of weed in west africa
 
what sort of prices am i looking at for some weed/wee/ganja etc through west africa;

like $50 / oz., or less than that?


:funmeteryes:

gilghana1 16 Jan 2008 21:01

much less!
 
can't remember exactly here in Ghana but bloody cheap! But please be aware that there are certain issues:
1) can be socially pretty taboo.
2) Drugs in general in West Africa at the moment are pretty big issues, in Ghana there have been some massive and high profile coke busts - some well publicised in UK (i.e. young girls intercepted at the airport en rout to UK), and others less so involving/implicating high level police. The use of WA by S. American cartels as a transit hub is rife, and authorities are keen to be seen to be tough on any drugs, especially in the hands of foreigners. I know you are only asking about 'wee', but please just be aware that if you are caught in the wrong place by the wrong guy you could be in for some serious grief, and a Ghana jail is not somewhere you want to spend even an hour!!!
Gil

Martynbiker 16 Jan 2008 21:23

aye, hes right you know........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gilghana1 (Post 168859)
I know you are only asking about 'wee', but please just be aware that if you are caught in the wrong place by the wrong guy you could be in for some serious grief, and a Ghana jail is not somewhere you want to spend even an hour!!!
Gil

there are a few people languishing in Jail in places like Thailand, Ghana & Mexico who wished they had just not bothered!

Panderingpeter, I am an ex weed smoker myself and believe me, nice as it is to have a Spliff..... Its not worth it abroad. You would lose your freedom, your Bike and most probably your Health & your Sanity as well.

Thats just my (dimebags) worth! :rofl:

Martyn

kentfallen 16 Jan 2008 21:54

About 6 months in a filthy stinking rat infested prison cell..... grow up!

juddadredd 16 Jan 2008 22:35

Have to agree with Kent sorry lads this is NOT the site for splif smoking, I ride a motorcycle and drive a car and never ever do drugs or drink if I'm going anywhere near either of them in the next 24 hours.

Apart from that PARTY SCATTER ..... :innocent: LMAO

palace15 16 Jan 2008 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by kentfallen (Post 168883)
About 6 months in a filthy stinking rat infested prison cell..... grow up!


Don't forget the amount of 'husbands' in one of those lovely cells you'd have the 'pleasure of entertaining' :helpsmilie:

You would land up with an as:censored:'ole like a letter box !

Still want to buy some???

kentfallen 16 Jan 2008 22:51

Your choice of question is NOT appropriate on a British based website platform where it is STILL a criminal offence to possess or use the stuff! What makes you think that the majority of forum members are interested in your filthy habits anyway? Not to forget the danger (to yourself and to other road users) of riding a bike under the influence of drugs.You have much to learn...In time I am sure you too will grow up just like the rest of us! :nono:

Martynbiker 16 Jan 2008 23:14

no sentence....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dave ede (Post 168899)
Don't forget the amount of 'husbands' in one of those lovely cells you'd have the 'pleasure of entertaining' :helpsmilie:

You would land up with an as:censored:'ole like a letter box !

Still want to buy some???

2 blokes went before a Judge to get sentenced for possessing Drugs.....
the judge said..... "its my birthday today so I am feeling very gracious... Im going to give one of you a chance, and the one of you that gets the most people to sign a pledge not to touch drugs gets a 10 day sentence.... the other one a 10 month sentence"
with that he lets them both go under police supervision for the afternoon with instructions to report back in 4 hours.
4 hours later he is back in court talking to them and says to the first offender " how many people signed your pledge?"

1st offender.... " 25 your honour"

judge then asks the second offender " and how many signed your pledge?"

2nd offender " 1378 your honour"

Judge " good grief, what the hell did you say to them?"

2nd offender " i showed em a marble and a pool ball....... and said " guess which one fits up your ass after prison?"...........

Martyn

panderingpeter 17 Jan 2008 11:30

Some of you are pathetic. I've found some of the imagary described in the posts to be particularly vulgar.

I'm sorry if you find weed offensive, but there will always be people who wish to smoke it, and cursing those who do only shows your ignorance and unwillingness to discuss the matter reasonably. There are plenty of resources online where you can get the full facts about it; I don't think a discussion on the pros and cons would be appropriate on this forum - all I was looking for was tips on how much to pay.

Being descrete and taking care from who you buy goes without saying.

Point taken about drugs in west africa; but I really have no intention of having any involvement with the import/export of coke. I am talking about buying a small amount of weed for personal enjoyment. There are millions of people who enjoy weed responsibly across west africa, and many communities use it as an aid/part of religious worship. And let's face it, we are going to be talking about baksheesh, not jail, if you are caught.

Though I am T-total, I respect your decision to drink alcohol; I would ask that you extend the same to me and my choice to smoke weed. And the inference that I will be taking drugs whilst, or immediately before riding my motor bike is ridiculous; if we were talking about the price of beer, would you be handing out similar drink-ride warnings? Cannabis does not make people the irresponsible have-a-go-heros that alcohol does.

Under UK law, it is technically illegal to possess, not talk about cannabis.

Martynbiker 17 Jan 2008 11:47

easy up tiger.........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panderingpeter (Post 168992)
Some of you are pathetic. I've found some of the imagary described in the posts to be particularly vulgar.

I'm sorry if you find weed offensive, but there will always be people who wish to smoke it, and cursing those who do only shows your ignorance and unwillingness to discuss the matter reasonably. There are plenty of resources online where you can get the full facts about it;

Though I am T-total, I respect your decision to drink alcohol; I would ask that you extend the same to me and my choice to smoke weed.

Under UK law, it is technically illegal to possess, not talk about cannabis.

Easy does it Tiger! Touched a nerve have we?????

I am an Ex weed smoker Myself...... also ex cocaine user, ex amphetamine user and recovering Alcoholic..... 30 years in all, so there is Naff all you can tell me about Drugs/ the law/ the dangers etc.......

we were trying to give you some ADVICE, that is all..... and some of us, myself included like a little leg pull at the same time. If that offends your sensitive nature ..well tough!:innocent:

As you say, there are plenty of places online where you can find out about it...cannabis dot com is one. Im sure you can find others that cater for your need.

One of the posters..... I shall not point the finger at whom, is, i believe, a serving, or an ex Copper....... so...... maybe you can understand their reluctance to 'help' you in your quest.

I still stand by my post mate..... Toke if you must, but be aware that we as visitors are an easy target. I for one was only concerned for your welfare not trying to put the 'frighteners' on you.

and if you must know prices........ about a fifth of what you originally said.:oops2: im probably gonna get a :ban: now! :rofl:

or at least some flak from others!

Edit: did you know it also grows WILD in those countries?

Martyn

panderingpeter 17 Jan 2008 12:16

Thanks Martyn. Extremely cheap then! I didn't know it grew wild there. What I do know is that Sativa is the prevailing species, and that it can be much stringer than we are used to in Europe. Which areas have you 'visited'?

No offence taken, I know you just wanted me to be safe. I'm not as stupid as I might sound; I know there will be scams out there, and that as a white man I should expect to pay for any mistakes I make. I am not planning to buy anything from the first man I meet on the street outside a Lonely Planet hotel! :)

Martynbiker 17 Jan 2008 13:50

Personally, I havent......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panderingpeter (Post 168996)
Thanks Martyn. Extremely cheap then! I didn't know it grew wild there. What I do know is that Sativa is the prevailing species, and that it can be much stringer than we are used to in Europe. Which areas have you 'visited'?

No offence taken, I know you just wanted me to be safe. I'm not as stupid as I might sound; I know there will be scams out there, and that as a white man I should expect to pay for any mistakes I make. I am not planning to buy anything from the first man I meet on the street outside a Lonely Planet hotel! :)

I havent been to Morroco, just Tunisia......and that was yeeeeeeeeeeeeeears ago!
If your going to Morroco beware of the 'Kif' Mountains... I mean 'Rif' Mountains.. you will be hassled to death there to buy. and yes its cheapy cheapy cheap cheap.......
Morroco is the MAIN Hash producer for the whole of EUROPE Dude!

So.. its available........ and Morroco is the Top of Africa.... and Africa is a HUGE country. and it does indeed grow wild........ Google it.

EDIT: "wild" means the odd plant here and there......... if it looks like it is someones plantation or cultivated.... for the sake of your Kneecaps or Throat its probably better not to harvest any....

Martyn

kentfallen 17 Jan 2008 14:25

Evening All.....

Lets all calm down a bit.... I respect YOUR right to free speech and free association, I just don't feel this is the place to discuss the likely cost of illegal substances in your travels throughout the "Dark Continent". I also care as much about YOUR safety as any other persons.

I reckon Martyn's got it about right with his advice. He's obviously a man of great wisdom...

I wish you well in your travels...

Martynbiker 17 Jan 2008 14:30

Why Thank you Officer!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kentfallen (Post 169024)
Evening All.....

I reckon Martyn's got it about right with his advice. He's obviously a man of great wisdom...

Thats about the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me on here!

lets hope Cammy reads this! :rofl:

kentfallen 17 Jan 2008 14:35

I don't want to give the impression I always take the moral high ground either... I know how to enjoy myself and I can be a prat too at times...:D

This forum is fast becoming a habit.... perhaps we should book in to rehab Martyn!:eek3:

Martynbiker 17 Jan 2008 17:17

er, no, I been, its full of junkies!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kentfallen (Post 169028)
I don't want to give the impression I always take the moral high ground either... I know how to enjoy myself and I can be a prat too at times...:D

This forum is fast becoming a habit.... perhaps we should book in to rehab Martyn!:eek3:

Im sure you can Neil, ( oooooooh! Bites his tongue......... cos he can be a propper sarky begger sometimes can Martyn.....:rofl:)

Dunno about the rehab! :eek3: Did Pegasus in MIlton Keynes once and only the Once....... never again.
I decided there and then i was doin it myself. Funny thing was, I was at Rehab for a drug dependancy that I didnt want or ask for!
Bike accident( Bust Pelvis) and 5 Months on 'Oromorph' left me with a Morphine Dependancy and the Dr said I had to go there to be 'weaned' off.
I turned up, looked at the people exchanging needles and jacking up outside and said " oh dear, I don't think this is quite my scene......." or words to that effect.
What I can say on the subject of withdrawl is this. I fully understand why addicts stay on the stuff. I had 4 Days of sheer hell and months of craving, even now I cant take any Morphine based Painkillers.

I was Lucky, I had the guts and determination to do it alone, it wasn't easy, giving up Weed was even Harder ( its a Social thing ya see...), the Coke was easier and so was the Amphetamines........ The hardest thing to Kick? Even Harder than the Booze?

Tobacco! That nearly killed me!

Martyn

MotoEdde 17 Jan 2008 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martynbiker (Post 168994)
...

Edit: did you know it also grows WILD in those countries?

Martyn


Go East young peter to the Stans...it grows wild there...

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And I agree with Peter...whether you choose to enjoy Corvoisier, cannabis, Chateau LaFite, or a Speckled Hen...you shouldn't be judged so quickly...

Keith1954 17 Jan 2008 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martynbiker (Post 169052)
........ The hardest thing to Kick? Even Harder than the Booze?

Tobacco! That nearly killed me!

+1

I gave up the fags last September ['07] - trouble is that now I'm hooked on Nicorette freshmint gum! .. :confused2:

CornishDaddy 18 Jan 2008 13:59

Garlic too I think
 
Also the only wild garlic left on the planet grows in the stans. Or so my missus tells me!

The only drug that I have regretted taking is nicotine. Well in the long term. There are a few shots I have regretted in my time :)

I would suggest a lot of people would feel the same.

Funny how thats the legal one! Goddam is that hard to shake. After five years of trying I think I am getting there. Cold Turkey is the only way!

henryuk 18 Jan 2008 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotoEdde (Post 169070)
Go East young peter to the Stans...it grows wild there...

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And I agree with Peter...whether you choose to enjoy Corvoisier, cannabis, Chateau LaFite, or a Speckled Hen...you shouldn't be judged so quickly...

here here on the anti over-zealous judgement, choice is key!
I didn't try and buy any weed while away on my bike, but got given some by a cop in Kazakhstan (so I guess it does grom in the 'stans!).

My advice would be just don't care about it, even a hardened british pot-head will not feel the need for any extra stimulation whilst on 2 wheels. When it comes to taking a break let it find you, don't go looking for it......

Ignore the republican/neo-conservative element but be wise and stay safe, be aware of the different cultural/legal implications and act accordingly.

Martynbiker 18 Jan 2008 15:44

here in Spain..Wild garlic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CornishDeity (Post 169222)
Also the only wild garlic left on the planet grows in the stans. Or so my missus tells me!


Funny how thats the legal one! Goddam is that hard to shake. After five years of trying I think I am getting there. Cold Turkey is the only way!

Cornish, Wild Garlic grows abundantly here in Spain. if you know what to look for, most people only know its there when it has turned to seed and has a huge round 'Dandelion Clock' type flower on it.


The reason Tobacco is the "legal" one is ... its seemingly innocuous looking stuff, very addictive AND HEAVILY TAXED!

Martyn

Cam Johnson 23 Jan 2008 21:05

Best way to change your perspective on life...
 
Once in Pakistan when I was sick with some kind of giardia problem, I was given a block of hash as big as my thumb by a detective in the Punjabi Police. He had heard about my problem and said that it was to help with my appetite. He said that with a completely straight face and was completely genuine. Funny thing was, I'm sure he'd of nicked me had he known about the hip flask of gin I had. God only knows what would 've happened if the customs bloke had found the Salman Rushdie novel I'd forgotten about in my bag.
I think it's a bit rum to tell people to grow up and describe their habits as filthy. What makes smoking cannabis filthy and juvenile?
Possesion and use of cannabis is illegal in most countries I would imagine, but how many millions of people use it in the world? Is is immoral to light up? Are you evil if you want a toke on the happy pipe?
To those people who answered this post with a tirade of personal abuse and sphincter stretching anecdotes: thanks for nothing. You are the reason why many of us decide to pack our panniers and disappear from the all reaching narrow mindedness that some suburbanites in the developed world have. You have the same mentality as those folk who look at me sideways and cite CNN reports when I tell them I rode to Sierra Leone. But I suspect that you'll never do a Sahara crossing, or put your bike in a canoe to cross a river. Maybe you'll take the GS to Spain wearing the BMW adventure motorcycling catalogue 2007 kit.
Another example: I'm on a Africa trip now and stopped using toilet paper in Southern Europe. I make like the locals with my special kaka water container. Some Westerners have described this practise as barbaric, but more than half the world does it. Travel, it can change your thoughts on life. If sometimes only temporarily.
This is an adventure motorcycle forum and I think the price of goods in foreign countries is a legit question. I've given up on the wacky-backy myself but grew up in a country that weened babies on beer and some kind of alcohol derived violence was the most common ending to the boys night out. Ever seen rastas fighting in the pub on Friday night?
By the way, I wouldn't pay $50 for anything in Africa, except visas maybe. Average wage of your common garden African is about $2 a day. They're not going to give up more than a months wage for an oz.
Regards,
Cam J

Walkabout 23 Jan 2008 21:17

West is west and East is east etc
 
Interesting post Cam.

Gin, "Rum", Beer, I like your thinking! :rolleyes2:

I've no idea what "Giardia" is BTW: explain please, if you wish.

Cam Johnson 23 Jan 2008 21:53

Walkabout,
You're lucky mate if you haven't met giardia yet.
From the internet:
Giardia infection can cause a variety of intestinal symptoms, which include
Diarrhea
Gas or flatulence
Greasy stools that tend to float
Stomach cramps
Upset stomach or nausea.
These symptoms may lead to weight loss (hence the appetite stimulant gift from the Paki rozzers) and dehydration. Some people with giardiasis have no symptoms at all.

Basically a bad time all round and can last for weeks. Makes travel very difficult.
Cam J.

raythebutcher 24 Jan 2008 02:40

this is probably one of the funniest and most controversial topic's i have seen yet. panderingpeter, i wish u good luck on your search for electric lettuce.

some may say this is not the place to discuss such matters, and i will not agree or disagree either way, but pot smoking is about freedom of choice, and last time i checked, motorcyclists preach the free lifestyle.

i'm sure everyone on this website is GUILTY of speeding, and more people die from that every year than smoking pot. In Canada the fine is even bigger for speeding than for personal possesion.

i know u are probabaly a good and honest citizen who contributes to society and holds doors open for old lady's at the bank and would never drive/ride under the influence.

my experience in asia/south america is that the substance in which you want to obtain is always so much cheaper than here that you wont have to worry about. get the feel for the locals first and make sure that they are not cops. if you frequent place's that travelers do, there will be somebody trustworthy there to point you in the right direction, because they of course want to keep the toursist's happy, and out of jail.
my view is dual sided so please everyone, dont bash my opinion to hard! haha

and as rastafarian Ben Harper said " if you dont like my smoke than dont come around, because i'm going to burn one down"

inyang 24 Jan 2008 09:30

in nigeria and ghana
 
Weed is pretty cheap, I don't have the price but from the people who can take their daily dose it must be only slightly more expensive than regular cigarettes. A pack of Malboro is about a dollar fifty.

If you are on a bike I guess buying should not be a problem, I see a lot of foreign kids (15 and above) hanging around bar beach marijuana joints in Lagos with no problems. What you do not want to do is carry it on the bike in quantity.

Cam Johnson 24 Jan 2008 22:29

Furthermore...
 
I've been thinking about this thread today while searching Freetown for parts for my bike (found a late model Triumph Speed Triple for anybody who is interested). One extra point I'd like to make is that this is not a pure motorcycling website as infered by other posters. It is a website for those who choose to travel by motorcycle or other types of vehicle either through the 'dark continent' or where ever.
Adventure motorcycling.
Notice the adventure comes before the motorcycling. Shipping, border crossings, cheap hotel location, camping tips, visas & price negotiation fall directly under adventuring in my humble opinion. Track day dates, knee slider discussions, best roost vests, tyre warmers and van rentals are what you'd expect to find on a 'real' bike site. But I don't see anybody talking about them here.
My point being something along the lines that no stranger has appeared out of the blue at a motard meeting and tried to sell me drugs. While traveling through Africa, it happens at quite regular intervals. Its a fact of traveling.
Am I right..?
Cam J.

panderingpeter 25 Jan 2008 18:26

Thanks again all for the thorough and thoughtful follow-up posts. The sort of prices which you quote are indeed unbelievable; this is something I will need to investigate in person, and in much greater detail, once in situe. ;)

Cam, I wonder if you would be kind enough to afford me some info about Sierra Leone; it is somewhere that I am considering visiting whilst in the region. My questions are:

1. Is the visa now readily available at the border? If not, where did you get yours? Price?

2. What are your highlights of the country so far? I fancy visiting the more mountainous north of the country, have you climbed any of the peaks? What else stood out?

Kind regards,

The Filthy Toker:nono:

Cam Johnson 25 Jan 2008 19:20

Info.
 
Filthy,
The thing is I've lived here for the past year upcountry doing goody-goody work in a hospital. My contract finished and I decided to do an overlander from Spain. It's a completely do-able trip to get here, but SL is recovering from it's horrific war and the place is set up for NGO and UN workers, so it's quite expensive. Cheap hotels are hard to come by in Freetown, but you can buy almost anything here, including oil caps for KLR 650's if you have a few contacts.
Visa is available in Conakry for $100US. Because I could tok small small Krio they gave me a 3 month visa, but the border is only able to issue a 1 month stamp. I have a carnet but I bought a lassier passer in Conakry for 40,000 Guinee franc per month (I forget how much that it but not much).
There is almost no organised tourism here and outside of Freetown you'll be dealing with village chiefs for permissions to climb mountains or land on islands and all that kind of stuff. Guides don't exist like Mauritainia, but I'm sure someone you meet might be able to help you out, for a small fee. Loads of college students around who are usually pretty trustworthy. Have a look at the following for ideas about where to go in the eco-tourism menu on the left.

Sierra Leone Travel and Tourism Information

For me SL is about rockin nights out in Freetown and some of the best beaches in West Africa meaning great seafood.
Cams.

orrin 26 Jan 2008 11:29

5000cfa for a handfull
 
Hey Cam. good to hear you still floating about! stuck in congo at moment trying to go south. might fly over angola because of all the crap i am having.
as for spliff I bought some bush weed for 5000cfa here in point noire. hand full! just because i was bored!
obviously got ripped off but who cares.
smoked it in a 300euro/night hotel but that is a LOOOOOOONNNG story.
keep well mate!
Orrin

panderingpeter 26 Jan 2008 22:33

Bush weed?
 
What's bush weed? Sativa I presume; hot, tropical growing conditions. Do you know what particular strains are available.

And what do they call it in the Francaphones? I understand it's called 'wee', or 'Indian Hemp' in Ghana.


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