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Old 17 Mar 2008
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Carnet de passage

Hi Im Fred and new here. Me and a friend are planning to drive from A'dam to Mali next month.
We are planning to leave the car in Mali so i think that it means that I can't get a carnet de passage from the ADAC. Now i've read something about an escort on the border of Mauri and Senegal (Rosso) , where you have to pay 200 euro for a escort to the other side of the country.

- Does that mean that you can do this and pass Senegal without any kind of carnet de passage and what about carnet de passages for Mauritaniƫ and Mali?

- We've also read something about a border crossing called Diama which is less stressful and easier. But we couldn't find more about it on the web. Anybody?
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Hi Fred,

You should read country info pages at beginning of this site. If your car is over 5 years old you may get into Mauritania but talk is of older cars needing carnet. For Senegal definitely need carnet if more than 5 years (unless you're lucky!).

For Diama border crossing you leave tarmac road just before you reach Rosso (Mauri) and turn west on piste approx 100km following N bank of River Senegal, then cross over the Barrage Maka Diama into Senegal (24 hour border crossing). Then either south 20km St Louis or 100 km NE (tarmac) to Richard Toll (near Rosso (Senegal) and along S bank of river approx 500km to border crossing to Mali at Kidira. Here you can purchase local Laiser Passer (valid for all CFA countries) but then you may have problems if you sell car and leave without it (the Laisser Passer is entered in your passport)!

Also possible to cross direct Mauri to Mali, go E from Nouakchott (tarmac) to Kiffa and possibly then S piste into Mali but you need to read up more information on this - look elsewhere in this forum

Good Luck!

Peter
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Hey Peter,

Thanks for your reply, its really nice that people help you out on the internet gathering information. Its definitely my plan to sell the car there. Problably Mali or if this doesnt work little bit further up, maybe Burkina Faso. But it will be a problem if you have a Laisser Passe stamp in your passport when leaving the country. Do you know anything about what the deal is on the border of Mali, do you get a stamp there? Or Burkina Faso. With other words, whats de best place to sell your car without getting problems? I also want to ask you the following questions...

- Its cost us 40 euro extra a visa when you arrange it here in the Netherlands. What do you think? Is it easy to get one on the border (visa for Mauri and Mali)

- How many km is it to Bamako, roundabout?

- What does fuel costs in West-Afrika?
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Hello Fred,

Approx costs of fuel are (in euros) petrol / diesel per litre:

Morocco 0.95 / 0.68
W Sahara 0.56 / 0.38
Mauritania 0.93 / 0.86
Mali 0.78 / 0.78

Distance Calais to Nouakchott is approx 5000km

I now see if you turn east from Nouakchott to Ayoun el Atrouss (800km) and then south, that road (Ayoun to Nioro du Sahel, in Mali, and to Bamako) is now tarmac (see thread border-crossing-mori-mali-33897 on this Hubb, posted an hour ago).

Also you can get Mauri visa, insurance and local carnet at border from W Sahara/Morocco and Mali visa and insurance plus Laisser Passer in Nouakchott.

I hope this helps,

Peter
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