Carnet
 

Hello.
I have a questions.
1. For which african countries the carnet is needed?
2. In which countries I can buy a local triptique at the border?

Thanks for your answering.
Alex

Africa is a large place - it may help if you say
East Coast or West coast?

Well , we have written about that here so many times.. that your best move is having a look in Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnet_de_Passage#Africa_2

This list It is regularly keep up to date. Ghanna is no longer requiring Carnet de Passage .


Have a nice day ...

around africa
 

I`m planing a trip around Africa. And It will be better for me to go without buying a carnet. I whant to plan my route via contries where carnet is not required. But what to do with South Africa?
P.S. I have been in China(Tibet) last summer. 8000km & 15days.
Alex

generally speaking ... you do not need a carnet if you travel via the west Coast .
Some countries in the East (Egypt , Kenya , Tanzania ) still requires the carnet.. so It will be a lot more difficult .

I am driving to SA via the west coast (Motorcycle currently in Niamey ) without any intention to adquire a carnet. As far as I know if you follow the classic

morocco , mauri , mali (Senegal , Gambia , Senegal ) , Burkina , -niger , Chad , Cameroon , Gabon , Congo , Congo , Angola , Namibia , SouthAfrica

you can cross Africa without a carnet.

DISCLAIMER !!! This is what -I believe .. to the point that I am doing it . Things and regulations in Africa can change from one day to the next .Borders may be closed , or new goverments start requiring again the Carnet (althought the whole carnet thing is bein phased out in Africa ) things may change . I know at least 10 -12 people which made it to SouthAfrica without a carnet following this route .

however , there are people which for any reason they tend to fall into all sort of tricks/scams. in most borders in central africa they are going to rip you off , asking for any sort of paper (Carnet , special permit , central-african insurance, etc.. ) Its just a ripoff. If you dont have a carnetdepassage .. you need to pay ... but if you have , then you need to pay for other imaginary permits or rules.

Laws in Africa are not like at home , in which rules are respected , followed and enforce. Laws in Africa (other than Morocco ,and Egypt) are "blurry" , and even that a country states that they require carnet -such as Ghanna- , most people make into it without one.

Crossing borders without the correct papers (carnet , insurance , even vehicle registration ) requires some sort of "face value" -[cant translate this better into english , sorry ]-

some people made it every day into Senegal without a carnet , and some other fellas have their car nearly impounded in Senegal for not having a fire-extinguiser.Some people are ignoring passavants expiry dates with no consecuences , and some other people , are pullover and pay huge fines for not wearing the seat belt .

I can tell you stories of 2 britons , got into mali with a WV polo , nwithout even doing the border stuff ,no passport entry stamp , no visa ,no passavant , no insurance , and maybe even not registration paper or the car , they stayd up to 15 days in mali , got pullover 10 times by the police , and they dint have any trouble at all other than paying small bribes. On the other hand , you will find people which affirm that you enter a country without all the entry stamps , paperwork , visas, etc.. and you probbably end up in the Jail .

well, have a nice day

Ok if I understand right in most african countries I must have a visa and some $$ for bribe if my smiling face do not help me. Now I try to make a list of countries on my route. I whant to ride aroud africa and my back way is runing via East coast. North-SA (West Coast), SA-North (East Coast). I do a first steps in my new big journey now. Many thanks for the helping.
Alex

don't count on doing 8,000km in 15 days in africa! that's the sort of thing I'd do for #fun# in Europe, but its not fun in Africa ... life moves to a different rhythm