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Buying a suzuki drz in spain and selling it on south africa?

is it possible to buy a suzuki drz in Spain and sell it in south Africa?
i am planning a trip route through Spain-morocco till south Africa on July 2011 .
the plan is to land in Spain and search there for a second hand 2006-2008 drz 400s/e .
do i need to register it on my own name? and if so, how can i then sell it in south Africa? or would i have to come back with it back to Spain in order to sell it?

how much does such bike can cost? around 5000 dollars?
do i need to have insurance ?
i really want to cross Africa but should i think about just buying a drz in cape town and travel till Kenya and return?

this is my first motorcycle trip and i have four month to that trip including buying preparing and selling the bike .
is it enough time?

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OK its seems like no one want to answer , it will be very difficult for you as you will need a carnet for the bike and if you do not bring back the bike you will loose your deposit , do some research online and on this site ,most of the answers are here but most of the time if blogger see that you didn't do research they will not even try to help ( I made an exception today)
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You wont need a carnet. I rode a very similar trip a few months ago without a carnet. Senegal can be a bit troublesome, and I am unsure about Ghana, but otherwise everything should be fine.

However selling a bike in South Africa (at least legally) requires a big pile of paperwork and a fair amount of time. From what I remember you need your temporary import papers, then permanent import permission, then an inspection and then a roadworthiness check. Have a search though, all this info is out there.

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As you seem very flexible with your plans it might be easiest given your time constraints to buy in South Africa, do a circular tour of Southern Africa up to Kenya and back then sell the bike in SA. You can still visit about 10 countries with little paperwork hassle and no carnet.
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I got close to selling my DRZ400 in South Africa.

It was worth £1000 on my carnet and thats the figure they use to work out the duty..

With all the tax and fees it costs £500 to import and make the bike legal.

Then you have the problem of selling a high mileage Suzuki dirt bike in a country that is obsessed with KTM's and BMW's...

Contact MotoZulu on here. He lives near Port Shepstone and imports bikes. I don't think he will want to buy yours, but he "might" help you import it.

He also rents out bikes so maybe consider that an option too !!

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I actually did resarched but most of the information on the web site is updated to 2006-2010 and I don't know if it's still valid.
How much does a drz 400 2009 should cost there any one knows?
Any how I think I just circle the east cost till knya .

By the way , if I by my bike at south Africa will it be easer to sell it?

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you could look at doing a buy back option with some dealer , it will be better as you could have someone local doing all paper for you .Never did it in Africa but done in Asia , work well for me
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I actually did resarched but most of the information on the web site is updated to 2006-2010 and I don't know if it's still valid.
How much does a drz 400 2009 should cost there any one knows?
Any how I think I just circle the east cost till knya .

By the way , if I by my bike at south Africa will it be easer to sell it?

Thanks for all the Helpers !
Yes... If it is already SA registered, you will be able to sell it again in SA no problem..

Expect to pay £500-1000 more in SA than Spain/UK
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Hi Dor,

@ Ted, I live in Umtentweni / Port Shepstone 110 km south of Durban not near Port Elizabeth ! You should remember that :-)

to find an DRZ should be not such a big problem check Classifieds – Gumtree Cape Town Free Classified Ads – Gumtree Cape Town Online Community for 2nd hand bikes. But will be difficult to find one kitted for the long road, the DRZs get here more abused in the bush than on the road.

I have sometimes bikes as well for sale www.600.xt.ms - WEB.DE MyPage but at the moment nothing ready for sale. New Stock will be available early October this year.

Or send your EU dream bike with my container from Germany, I import the bike for you and get the south african papers done for you. An after your trip you sell the bike here.

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Hi Dor,

@ Ted, I live in Umtentweni / Port Shepstone 110 km south of Durban not near Port Elizabeth ! You should remember that :-)

to find an DRZ should be not such a big problem check Classifieds – Gumtree Cape Town Free Classified Ads – Gumtree Cape Town Online Community for 2nd hand bikes. But will be difficult to find one kitted for the long road, the DRZs get here more abused in the bush than on the road.

I have sometimes bikes as well for sale www.600.xt.ms - WEB.DE MyPage but at the moment nothing ready for sale. New Stock will be available early October this year.

Or send your EU dream bike with my container from Germany, I import the bike for you and get the south african papers done for you. An after your trip you sell the bike here.

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Yes I should know !!

I was typing that while still half asleep
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Hi Dor,

@ Ted, I live in Umtentweni / Port Shepstone 110 km south of Durban not near Port Elizabeth ! You should remember that :-)

to find an DRZ should be not such a big problem check Classifieds – Gumtree Cape Town Free Classified Ads – Gumtree Cape Town Online Community for 2nd hand bikes. But will be difficult to find one kitted for the long road, the DRZs get here more abused in the bush than on the road.

I have sometimes bikes as well for sale www.600.xt.ms - WEB.DE MyPage but at the moment nothing ready for sale. New Stock will be available early October this year.

Or send your EU dream bike with my container from Germany, I import the bike for you and get the south african papers done for you. An after your trip you sell the bike here.

regards

Thomas
does the xt 600\660 is a better choice in your opinion ?
because i am looking to ride a lot in the bush and i also dont weight that much (70 kilo's)
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Hi Dor,

an XT600E would be my frist choice. Because I know them in and out .But as Ted just showed us, a DRZ 400 will do as well.

The DRZ is lighter but as well higher.

DRZ is higher on maintenance with 2 chamshafts and you need shims to set your valve clearance, the timing chain wears as well faster. Offroad it has better suspension than an XT.

The XT will be more comefortable on the long road and will need less attention if you get a younger modell with not to many kms you should be fine.

So at the end choose the bike you like more.

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Hi Dor,

an XT600E would be my frist choice. Because I know them in and out .But as Ted just showed us, a DRZ 400 will do as well.

The DRZ is lighter but as well higher.

DRZ is higher on maintenance with 2 chamshafts and you need shims to set your valve clearance, the timing chain wears as well faster. Offroad it has better suspension than an XT.

The XT will be more comefortable on the long road and will need less attention if you get a younger modell with not to many kms you should be fine.

So at the end choose the bike you like more.

regards

Thomas
what do you say-is there any chance if i wont be able to sell the motorbike on time .. to leave it at a local motor store and he will sell it for me and send me the money to my country? or is it dangerous to trust people like this?
i am excited only two more month's
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I would not leave a bike with a dealer here and go overseas ! Its as well not so easy to send money back from RSA out of the country.

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Where are you from? England, the US? One thing you could consider is shipping the bike backback to your country and selling it there or keeping it? Depending on the cost/monetary loss, time and hassle of selling it in SA and the difficulty/cost of importing it in your own country, it might actually be easier.
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