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trying59 1 Aug 2010 10:46

so you end up in jail in another country, any one have it happen?
 
I asked else where but didn't get much of answer. Seeing how corrupt place like Mexico are. 92% of people end up behind bars without any physical evidence to tie them to the crime . You gulity unless you can some how prove otherwise, it seem like a good question what do you do? I m not talking that you had drugs on you etc. I m talking you end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. it seem like a wise question to ask . It could happen, has it happen to anyone you know? what happened? thanks.
:helpsmilie:

*Touring Ted* 1 Aug 2010 12:51

I've heard stories...

When I was in Argentina. A couple were arrested trying to smuggle cocaine home on their landrover.. I think they were offered £15,000 which they wanted to use to keep on travelling.

Have you seen the programme "Banged up abroad" ??

I think that most people who end up in foreign jails are there for a reason. Drugs etc.

Although, Ted Simon was locked up in Brazil in the 70's (cant remember why) and Sam Manicon was temporaraly slammed up in Africa for crashing into a pedestrial who jumped out in front of his bike..

docsherlock 1 Aug 2010 13:45

Despite the horror stories I think being fitted up for something you have not done is unusual.

I would call the consulate of your home country and employ a lawyer recommended by them to get you out/defend you.

I wonder whether you can take out insurance policies for the defense? I doubt it somehow....

geoffshing 1 Aug 2010 14:23

Senegal
 
Myself and Peter Cullen were arrested for a trumped up charge of killing a child in Zuigenchor, Senegal!
A family tried to fit us up but we had witnesses, 2 catholic nuns and nobody would argue with them!!
If it weren't for them then I wouldn't know what would have happened but it wouldn't have been good that's for sure!

pictish 4 Aug 2010 19:52

Andy pag [biotruck] got jail time in india for the whole sat phone thing, took them ages to sort it out

AliBaba 4 Aug 2010 21:46

I spend four days in an army-prison in Chad on a small room with 20-25 people, one guy had been there in seven years, he was not quite sure why.

No phonecals, no interpreter, polluted water etc.

I was guilty of taking pictures in the desert without a permit.


Edit: This is also an interisting case Welcome, here is a short introduction

*Touring Ted* 5 Aug 2010 07:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliBaba (Post 299826)
I spend four days in an army-prison in Chad on a small room with 20-25 people, one guy had been there in seven years, he was not quite sure why.

No phonecals, no interpreter, polluted water etc.

I was guilty of taking pictures in the desert without a permit.


Edit: This is also an interisting case Welcome, here is a short introduction

HOLEY S**T !!! What a situation !!

Is this still pending ???

Man, such a bad idea to carry a firearm while travelling (a different argument altogether) and maybe the Congo is really not the best place to visit in the first place !

AliBaba 5 Aug 2010 07:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 299854)
HOLEY S**T !!! What a situation !!

Is this still pending ???

There was a new round in civil court in May this year but the result was more or less the same.
A newspaper had live web-tv from the court and it was a circus.



Quote:

Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 299854)
Man, such a bad idea to carry a firearm while travelling (a different argument altogether) and maybe the Congo is really not the best place to visit in the first place !

Yes, firearms generates more problems then they solve.
They were carrying a shotgun (no rifles or pistols). According to Moland the Congo embassy in Uganda said it was okay to carry a shotgun.

Anyway, they where riding a XT.

*Touring Ted* 6 Aug 2010 22:05

Its hard to know for sure if they're telling the whole story though...

Nightmare either way though ! Sounds like a local was shot !

AliBaba 7 Aug 2010 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 300090)
Nightmare either way though ! Sounds like a local was shot !

They rented a pickup with a driver to transport their broken XT towards Uganda. Two locals were also sitting in the pickup. The driver got shot, the group got separated and Moland and French drove away with the car.


Quote:

Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 300090)
Its hard to know for sure if they're telling the whole story though...

Like always, I have no idea what's true.

chrisDK 1 Sep 2010 12:45

Here is the same story from a different perspective

Google Translate

And here is a video from their alleged military traning camp: YouTube - Moland and French Training camp

AliBaba 5 Sep 2010 15:50

The video from the training camp is real.

It's filmed in Uganda where the guys had a licensed security-business.(The murder took place in Congo).

aurel 14 Apr 2011 16:54

Got in jail in Zambia about 8 months ago.

To make it short here is the story:
- with my friend I was crossing Africa with we were looking to visit Victoria Falls
- tourists can only pay the entry fee in US$
- we where short on US$
- we looked for a change office, all closed
- we changed some money on the black market (first mistake)
- among real US$ notes the guys gave us two fake ones (second mistake, I didn't check enough if all the notes looked real or not)
- when we realized we had fake notes the guys were gone (of course)
- when at Victoria falls entrance the guy giving ticket was not looking like a guy that pay too much attention to the notes he was given (second mistake we made)
- we gave it a try thinking "if he realize it's fake notes he'll keep it and that will be all" (third mistake)
- when we gave it to him we saw he had a fake note detector, oops! Of course the alarm of the machine went on when he inserted our note. Oops!
- he went mad, called a cop near by, called the manager of Victoria falls
- 1 hour later 2 police men arrived (in a taxi) to arrest us and put us in jail (funny things, not enough space in the taxi, we had to follow them to the jail on our bikes). Another funny things, they left us visit the falls before going to fail, thank you guys!
- after a day in jail they released us but kept our passports. We were "lucky" we did the exchange in front of a closed bank with CCTV. We where not expecting any of these cameras to be working but it was a miracle, CCTV was actually recording! So they saw the faces of the guys that gave us the fake notes.
- after 4 days we got our passports back and left the country

Don't do the same mistake, don't be an idiot! :nono:

At least they sent us in jail with our cameras. So we have a souvenir :innocent:

http://www.the-great-adventure.fr/ph...00x1200%5D.JPG

ilesmark 14 Apr 2011 17:35

Hope nobody ends up like this poor guy....

BBC News - Briton dies in Dubai police custody

flyde 17 Apr 2011 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by aurel (Post 332298)
Got in jail in Zambia about 8 months ago.


F'in Nuts! Love it!! Following the taxi with your bikes and getting to see the falls before the cop's arrive... priceless

Photos in prison.... Awesome! bier

Tis a game of chance out there....


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