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svetlana71 21 Nov 2010 20:38

traveling with dogs in africa
 
hello, i am planing to go with my two dogs to africa driweing my camper. somebody knows if there is anny particular medical rules about dogs and do i need to have NOC (no objection certificate) for my dogs on entering countrys in africa. for marocco i know no need, i was already with my dog once. some info?? thanks, svetlana

Selous 24 Nov 2010 03:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisC (Post 217331)
First and foremost you need knowledge

What to do
when

How to use the First Aid kit you have to hand/don't have - improvise!


depending on the situation, most people will only just cope with a FA Kit, without they would/will be stuck, and will not have the knowledge, thought process to improvise sufficiently.

It ALL depends on the knowledge you have - level of training
Where you are in the world, and how likely you are to getting to trained help. If say in the middle of nowhere in Africa then the better the knowledge and kit, will make a massive difference. In the UK the first 10-30 mins in an Urban area, and upto 2 hours in a rural/far from help situ, after that the Paramedics will be there - fingers crossed!

ChrisC

Mate as an ex serviceman & a Paramedic, If I took all the things I thought I 'might need' I would not have room for items i would need!, I.E. suture set I would take, you unless knew how to use would not, I would take coagulant crystals, most people would not.

like others suggest do a basic first aid course, if you work in a office then you office would have dedicated first aiders, ask if you can become 1 that way you get to do a first aid course for free or contact st johns amb service. and pay to do it whear as doing the office option means you get to possibly help work mates.

langebaan sunset 22 Jul 2011 13:25

Medical kit & tips, 2 people, 1 year in Africa
 
Hi folks

Just finished a 12 month trip from London to Cape Town via west and central Africa. We have posted a summary of our medical kit and hygiene tips, how we used the kit and what we actually treated on the trip.

You can read the full article here

HTH

Nick

kimanderson8686 6 Aug 2011 07:45

Re :
 
Hi,

I always keep tablets like metacin for fever and Dramamine for vomit.In addition to first aid kit,i always prefer to keep fruits with me it keeps me refreshing.

Mervifwdc 26 Aug 2011 15:40

The best thing you can bring is your brain.

I did a first aid course a few years back, and my wife and I decided to do a wilderness first aid course as our trips are usually well off the beaten (or driven) track. It was superb! way better than a "regular" first aid. It goes through what to do for problems where your not expecting professional help for many hours or even days. For the sake of a few quid and a couple of days, this is a super course to do.

As to what to bring, that depends on how many in the group.... 20 folks will get through a lot of plasters :-)

at a minimum, 1 roll of sterile gauze, 1 compression bandage, VERY good sissors (knife if you have to). cling film. good few sterile gloves. loads of clean water. That's it. any more bandages / slings / splints are made on the spot from whatever is around. after that, it's stuff that's medical, but not first aid - tablets for shits, re-hydration powders/drinks, anti-malaria etc.

but the most important - do a course, ideally a wilderness/remote one.

Great if you dont need any of this, but you could easily come across anyone from this group, dying for the want of some help....

Merv.

strimstrum 26 Aug 2011 22:49

I like to carry a very small dental kit - enough to do a temporary filling. Toothache one of my pet hates. Broke a tooth in Siberia in July but luckily the root died of its own accord and I had no pain - lucky me !

Michielvv 13 Sep 2011 08:57

Where there is no doctor
 
A good tip is to bring the book called ' Where there is no doctor ' a proven publication printed over 3 million copies dealing on basical medical subjects and tropical medicine in particular. It it is extensively illustrated as well.

good travels,
Michiel (MD)

Rone 13 Sep 2011 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michielvv (Post 348899)
A good tip is to bring the book called ' Where there is no doctor ' a proven publication printed over 3 million copies dealing on basical medical subjects and tropical medicine in particular. It it is extensively illustrated as well.

good travels,
Michiel (MD)

There is a free download : http://weblife.org/pdf/where_there_is_no_doctor.pdf

A.L.F 10 Nov 2011 08:42

If toothache is a fear take a small bottle of clove oil. dab a little on your finger tip and rub on effected area. Works like a dream and is the basis to lots of top dental products. If anyone is passing through Pemba (north of Zanzibar ) pop in and ask to look around. Fascinating place. :thumbup1:

ed9489 25 Dec 2011 13:26

+1 on knowledge as the key thing as you can improvise a great deal of things with a bit of ingenuity.

It's also very important to work out what you'll REALLY need, rather than a general kit sold to cover the 'average' trip.

Tooling around in Sierra Leone and Liberia I realised that a lot of 'First Aid' gear is great if an ambulance is on the way, but if you're 3 days drive down a dirt road from an overcrowded, understaffed UN hospital where all they will do is possibly help you get on a helicopter then it may not be much use to be kept alive for that extra hour.

In really remote places I have aimed to carry things that will help me move myself away and organise my own solution. Travelling alone, I never carried a CPR mask or airway kit as the likelihood of someone finding it in my bag and knowing how to use it when I am in trouble is rare. Oral Rehydration Salts, Imodium, Asthma medication, Epipen as needed. Allergies, Cholera or similar and Asthma will cause serious bother if you're not able to help yourself out. A broad spectrum antibiotic is likewise highly valuable.

I don't take painkillers except for Ibuprofen for hangovers as pain won't kill me and opiates can cause big trouble at customs (example - Lebanon, where you can buy almost anything OTC has total bans on a huge number of commonly abused drugs). I found Chlorhexidine antiseptic cream incredibly helpful for minor infections, and carry medical tape and gauze instead of bandaids. I'll definitely take a suture kit next time. I was stitched up without anaesthetic after riding an hour to a hospital once, and am confident I could do it myself or instruct someone else on it if it was a minor thing.

I've also toyed with the idea of getting a small tattoo with blood type and other pertinent medical details in an obvious place.

It might be a bit of a cavalier attitude but I didn't like my chances of getting much emergency help in case something really went wrong, so I just aim to carry what I will either definitely need or what might let me get myself out of trouble.

Selous 26 Dec 2011 03:03

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Originally Posted by ed9489 (Post 360605)
I've also toyed with the idea of getting a small tattoo with blood type and other pertinent medical details in an obvious place.

Hi, a number of the guys in my Regiment had there Blood Group tatooed on there wrist underside where a pulse would be taken normally.

It was common to have a Red Equlatral Triangle (tip of triangle facing up the arm), with the words above the point Blood Group, below it the actual group.
Make sure it is written in plan i.e. If B Rhs Positive (B+)

Of course I would suggest the best option would be to buy a set of Dog Tags then have them engraved, make sure you know you blood group.

Have the following put on them (same as in Army) First initial or (name) Last Name, DOB Blood Group & any allergies you have, if need be can put them on the back of the tags as well!

I still have mine, from when i joined the Army in 79, nothing has changed, probably cheaper than a tat as well lol

grizzly7 29 Dec 2011 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selous (Post 360650)
Hi, a number of the guys in my Regiment had there Blood Group tatooed on there wrist underside where a pulse would be taken normally.

It was common to have a Red Equlatral Triangle (tip of triangle facing up the arm), with the words above the point Blood Group, below it the actual group.
Make sure it is written in plan i.e. If B Rhs Positive (B+)

Of course I would suggest the best option would be to buy a set of Dog Tags then have them engraved, make sure you know you blood group.

Have the following put on them (same as in Army) First initial or (name) Last Name, DOB Blood Group & any allergies you have, if need be can put them on the back of the tags as well!

I still have mine, from when i joined the Army in 79, nothing has changed, probably cheaper than a tat as well lol

Hiya

Although a very good thing for people in the Services, is the blood group bit of any real use at all outside them?

I was told by a UK doctor that you would always always always check for blood type regardless of any tattoo or other markings etc? So no real point to a civilian??

Just asking :)

148Stu 25 Jun 2012 21:17

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OOgie 25 Oct 2012 03:29

my 2¢worth
 
As a veterinarian I would like to add a couple of comments.
Diarrhea is probably the most common malady to be dealt with. Clean water, rest, and possibly a sulfonamide are your best therapies. Be careful with Immodium/Lomotil. While this type of medication treats the symptoms, they are quite dangerous. Diarrhea is a mechanism for ridding the gut of the toxins given off by the invading bacteria. Slow down the gut and those toxins become absorbed instead of expulsed. When the symptoms subside start a 'brat' diet:bananas, rice, applesauce, tea.

For minor pain,take only a couple of tablets of what works for yourself. You can always purchase more as needed along the way. ForMAJOR pain, have your physician prescribe Tramadol. Thse tablets are non-narcotic, but work very well in emergencies.

A 4"roll of elastic bandage can be cut in half lengthwise as needed or used as a tourniquet if required. Make sure to carry it where readily available.

Remember r-i-c-e for infammation. Rest, ice, compress, and elevation.

Selous 26 Dec 2013 23:18

I have my own sterile sryinges and cannulas you can buy med supplies s & p supplies

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