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Malarone might not be the ideal treatment

Hi, i just wanted to contribute 1 thing to this discussion:

on a 2 year long African overland trip i got malaria while staying in Zanzibar. I was carrying Malarone as treatment (didn't use it as prevention) and took the prescribed quantity of pills as treatment. It didn't help at all. After three days (could barely walk or lift my arms anymore) i went back to the doctor and got some local medicine (don't remember the name). Felt fine a few days later.

So malarone might not be the miracle stuff some doctors make it to be either.

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I was in South Africa and Swaziland in May. My US travel doc said that Malarone was the only thing that worked with the strains out there today. She thought that taking it as treatment, not as preventative, was a mistake. When I got to Africa, the staff at the safari lodge didn't use anything because they were there year round and the side affects of long term use were unacceptable. Bring back DDT.
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Doxy is in the medical sense not an antiprofilaxe but a antibiotic! It is known that antibiotic work against malaria but do you want to take antibiotics for a year, or two? I think if you devellop resistance againts antibiotics you'r in a world of trouble!

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Hi

You must be medically qualified to make such a statement, which goes against a great deal of current medical advice on taking Doxy for Malaria?

I think Doxy is usually two tablets a day when prescribed as an anti-biotic. One tablet a day as a long term malarial prophylaxis. But I'm no Doctor.

To me thats an advantage, if I have something that my medical guide books and the small amount of knowledge gained from several wilderness type first aid courses suggests can be treated with such an antibiotic I have them to hand already.


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Doxy

Hi Grizzly,

What I state is factually correct and you draw conclusions that I don't draw. I pose a retorical question about taking an antibiotic against malaria while there are alternatives specifically designed against malaria!

Also, if you need treatment, antibiotic is sometimes used together with a strong dose of prophylaxis.

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Hi Grizzly,

What I state is factually correct and you draw conclusions that I don't draw. I pose a retorical question about taking an antibiotic against malaria while there are alternatives specifically designed against malaria!

Also, if you need treatment, antibiotic is sometimes used together with a strong dose of prophylaxis.

Cheers,
Noel
As a for instance, paracetamol is a pain killer when taken as prescribed. Taken at bigger quantiities than prescribed it becomes something else.

The point I was making is if prescribed at one tablet a day Doxy is not at a strength to be an effective antibiotic. So you describing its use as a prophylactic also as being an antibiotic is not really correct (you would have to double the dose or more for that), and it won't have as bad a long term effect than it or any other drug prescribed at a strength to act as an antibiotic. It is of course prescribed worldwide as a prophylactic, and both by my GP and travel clinic nurses in fact because they know I will be taking it for perhaps a year or more. Malerone would perhaps be better but at what cost for long term use, and then I can't change dose of the Doxy if I have something it could treat.

Many people develop resistance to certain antibiotics just from the amounts given by their GP, but there are always(?) alternatives available to them. You suggest the results of taking doxy long term is a thing to be avoided which as I said does go against all current general medical advice available to me. I think you are over stating your case in a dramatic way which does not help this thread. The only assumption I made was that you must be medically qualified. The rest of my previous post was as told to me by medical nurses and GPs, some of which are experts in travel medicine, but I can't type here that you can definitely change your Doxy dose from one to two a day to start acting as an effective antibiotic as I'm not qualified to do so!

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