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Margus 6 Jun 2005 06:48

adapting with heat/dehydration on hot areas
 
Any experiences to share adapting with heat and dehydration possibilities on hot areas?

To drink lot of water, yes, but is there special salt to eat needed too to restore normal body's metabolics?

Thanks in advance, Margus

Namron 6 Jun 2005 11:40

Margus, go to this site and read up on this exact problem.
Norm

http://aolsvc.health.webmd.aol.com/c...m?pagenumber=1

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Namron '04 F650GSA, '03 Yamaha Venture, Calgary, Alberta Canada.
Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.

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Geoff van de Merwe 6 Jun 2005 21:33

Look at the locals diet and try to copy it.

ozhanu 6 Jun 2005 22:06

As I mentioned somewhere in the forums, I'll travel Middle East too. I am thinking about buying a cooler (fridge) which works with 12V adepter and put it instead of my topbox with a good outerbox. Do you folks think it may work?


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Stephano 7 Jun 2005 01:46

Ozhanu
I can't really see the point in a fridge!
Get a good capacity CamelBak and arrange to have ice ready each morning (from hotels or restaurants). Fill the CamelBak as much as possible with the ice and top it up with water.

Later in the day you'll still be able to buy chilled water from shops everywhere. Locals like their drinks cool too!
Stephan

BMBaxter 7 Jun 2005 09:19

I plan on a daily ratio of 3 liters of water to 1 liter of powdered sports drink(Gatorade Brand seems to work the best).I normally go thru 0.5- 1 liters per hour,using a camelback hydration pack.Don't put sport drinks into your Camelback as the sugar content will cause bacteria to grow inside the plastic bladder.I've found that drinking ice cold water can cause stomach cramping(although it does taste better).Staying hydrated is very important in the desert heat.Also follow the practice of the locals and stay covered up,this will greatly reduce dehydration.

Namron 7 Jun 2005 11:44

You can drink all the water you want, but if you don't replace the chemical balance in your body it can kill you!
Go this borrowed topic and read the story.
Norm

http://www.klr650.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=383

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Namron '04 F650GSA, '03 Yamaha Venture, Calgary, Alberta Canada.
Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.

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Margus 7 Jun 2005 23:56

Yes, that's what i was referring - salts!

Only too much water will wash them away and can have bad endings.

So looks like the best reciepe is to have proper amount of various electrolyte's (i.e. salts) with you to eat constantly?

Margus

fireboomer 9 Jun 2005 20:29

Taking extra salt in your luggage.....????

The camelbag is key. Siegrid and I both have one and we drink a lot while riding.
As extra we also have each a 5l jerrycan with water. We needed it on some occasions in Syria and Jordan.
We always buy bottled water.

We make sure we eat divers and thus taking in all the necesarry minerals. Need extra salts or sugars?
Go to a local market and buy yourself a bag of salty nuts and a bag of local sweets.

Yes, water in the camelbag will get warm. And the water from the jerrycans was warm enough for a shower.
BUT in hot \ warm conditions warm water / drinks are better for your body then icy cold. It can better and faster absorb warmer fluids then colder onces. Get used to drinking warm water.

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ozhanu 10 Jun 2005 05:47

Hi,
There are 1, 1.5, 2 and 3 liters of CamelBak's. Which one do you recommend? I am thinking about to buy 2 lt. ones. Would it be enough? I am also consider to carrying an extra 5lt of water.

thanks


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BMBaxter 11 Jun 2005 09:14

Assuming that you're riding between towns on well travelled roads,then I would go with a 2 liter Camelback+10 liters(divided into two cannisters) per day.This would give you enough water for a long day plus a safety margin for unexpected delays.A mechanical problem,getting lost,or bad road conditions can easily push your water reserves.I tend to drink a lot of water,and your needs may be different.I've yet to meet anyone who regretted hauling too much water in the desert heat.

irlsanders 28 Mar 2006 07:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Stephano:
arrange to have ice ready each morning (from hotels or restaurants). Fill the CamelBak as much as possible with the ice and top it up with water.
Stephan

If you are wary of the local water supply and drinking bottled water, remember that ice can be just as contaminated. Make sure your ice is from a purified source.


PanEuropean 28 Mar 2006 09:27

Quote:

Originally posted by irlsanders:
If you are wary of the local water supply and drinking bottled water, remember that ice can be just as contaminated. Make sure your ice is from a purified source.
Good point. Anytime you are in the third world, always wash the water before you drink it.

Michael


2SA 6 Apr 2006 14:02

Drinking really ice cold drinks can actually drain your bodies energy reserves as it 1st needs to warm up the liquid before it goes any further, hence your heart pumps faster to warm it up, its also known that a nice cuppa tea, not coffee is a thirst quencher, but I have to admit that there is nothing better than a good chilled beer/larger on a hot day, this we were taught in the army and there were no fridges in SWA (Namibia) and Angola at that time, as for food army rations are the best for space and quick preparation, ll the energy and nutritions you'll ever need..

moggy 1968 19 May 2006 17:22

beer, tea, coffee and coke will all make you more dehydrated as they make you pee more (due to the cafeine). thats one of the things that causes a hangover after you have been out on the lash! avoid drinking water excessively as this can also knacker you kidneys. It used to be said, pee clear twice a day. this is no longer held to be the case. In really hot conditions if you pee clear you are drnking too much. It should be light orange, golden! ladies need to check as well, it is your first indicator as to how (de)hydrated you are. You should pee a lot more than twice a day as well. once the body has removed the useful stuff it will chuck the waste, the more you need, the more waste, the more you pee. In the middle east at over 60C that mean't peeing up to 8 times a day (and getting up in the night once or twice).
It is a fine balancing act, and remember, you aren't drinking because it tastes nice, or even to slake your thirst, your drinking to stay alive, so even if you hate the taste of hot water, drink it. It has to be a consious effort, by the time your body prompts tou, your already very dehydrated. don't run in a negative balance either, because if you do and you get sick your really going to be in trouble.

watch your body and the way it reacts, then plan accordingly, people are very different in how much water they will need. some may manage on 5 litres while others need 12. On our recent trip to the sahara the drivers were consuming more than double what the navigators were.

Andy
TLC H60
Landy101Ambie/camper
1968 morris minor traveller


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