Carnet de Passage in India for a Nepalese-registered bike

[ktmtobcn]

Hello,

My plan is to get a bike in Katmandu and the travel to Europe. I will get the motorbike in Nepal to be able to register it under my name and then apply for the Carnet de Passage. I contacted ADAC in Germany and they told me they usually take like 4-6 weeks to process it.

My question is if in the meantime I can cross into India without having the Carnet. Somewhere I read Nepalese bikes are allowed in India without Carnet, but not 100% sure about it. Although, I will visit Nepal I don´t want to spend 6 weeks there just waiting for the Carnet... Once the Carnet is processed I would ask ADAC to send it somewhere in India.

Anybody knows?

Thanks!!

[CourtFisher]

Originally Posted by ktmtobcn

Hello,

My plan is to get a bike in Katmandu and the travel to Europe. I will get the motorbike in Nepal to be able to register it under my name and then apply for the Carnet de Passage. I contacted ADAC in Germany and they told me they usually take like 4-6 weeks to process it.

My question is if in the meantime I can cross into India without having the Carnet. Somewhere I read Nepalese bikes are allowed in India without Carnet, but not 100% sure about it. Although, I will visit Nepal I don´t want to spend 6 weeks there just waiting for the Carnet... Once the Carnet is processed I would ask ADAC to send it somewhere in India.

Anybody knows?

Thanks!!

No personal experience, but a Google search turns up this official Indian govt/
Consulate General in Nepal online document:
Consulate General of India, Birgunj Nepal (Official Website)
Nepal registered vehicles [read the detail & follow links]

[ktmtobcn]

Originally Posted by CourtFisher

No personal experience, but a Google search turns up this official Indian govt/
Consulate General in Nepal online document:
Consulate General of India, Birgunj Nepal (Official Website)
Nepal registered vehicles [read the detail & follow links]

wops, thanks, i didn´t find it before.

a shame, i will have to either spend 4-6 weeks in Nepal or make all this paperwork in addition to apply for two Indian visas.

[hebbo]

Hi again ktmtobcn,

I just found this post after asking in the other. I now know that your bike is actually from Nepal.

Again, out of curiosity (and probably a silly question). Why would you ask for the CdP of your Nepali motorcycle to the ADAC in Germany?

Thanks on advance.

[ktmtobcn]

Hi Hebbo,

just partially responded it in the other thread. Basically, I am getting the bike in Nepal and then riding it back to Spain via some countries that require the CdP (India, Pakistan and Iran, although I will divert via Central Asia). In Spain we have RACE but they do not issue CdP to vehicles that have not been registered in Spain. Also, they deposit is way more expensive than the one require by ADAC. ADAC for an extra 155 euros (plus the 295 as usual) issues the CdP to vehicles registered in Nepal or overseas. In any case, I need to proof my Spanish nationality so I guess they do the same for all Europeans, but not sure.

Hope I helped to clarify it.

Thanks!

[Uselessbaba]

I did this last year, bought the bike in Kat and got my CDP through the RAC in UK. You can run the bike down into India no problem without the CDP, but as the bike is Nepali you will have to get the CDP stamped out of Nepal and into India, otherwise you will have problems to leave India ( as officially the bike will not have entered India). Each page of the CDP has an entry and an exit stamp and they both need to be completed to ensure return of bond. If you only wanted to visit India on the bike and then return to Nepal you wouldn't need the CDP.
UB.

[ktmtobcn]

Thanks Uselessbaba,

so if i understand it correctly, i could leave nepal visit india, but at some point, once the CdP is ready I should go back to nepal and get into India with the stamp, right? How long did it take for you the get the CdP once you had sent the documentation/deposit?

[bad babba]

buy the bike in india cheapear and when leaving india yuo dont nead a cdp i have traveld 3 times to europa whid aout a cdp last time in a mahindra jeep registerd in india yuo nead a no objetion certificat to leave india i have some good contakts in india that can sort yuo aout even geat yuo a indian licens iff yuo nead one 2010 i drive whid a friend to sweden and no carne whas neadead four pakistan and iran the dident even ask the did ask iff i have some i gave them a six pak and a big smile in return and i whas one may whay i whil bee in puschkar four the next 3 months recovering from a broken wrist and stomik operation so iff yuo nead healp i can sort yuo out

[Uselessbaba]

so if i understand it correctly, i could leave nepal visit india, but at some point, once the CdP is ready I should go back to nepal and get into India with the stamp, right?
Correct, the CDP took about a week after we had paid the money.
They most certainly did ask for the CDP both leaving India ( took about 3 hrs to clear customs, with all paperwork in order) and entering Pak. I have also met overlanders at Taftan (Iran/Pak border) who didn't have CDP and were forced to buy of touts at the border (asking 1000 USD) as they were point blank refused entry without one.
UB.

[bad babba]

yuo most certenly not nead a cdp when the bike is registerd in india i have traveld 3 times whid indian registerd bike and car to europa whid aout cdp the dont give a f-ck in pakistan and iran

[ktmtobcn]

Thanks Uselessbaba,

i will definitely get the CdP. no need to gamble for 300 euros. Nice to hear that just took about a week to be processed.

best

[chris]

Originally Posted by Uselessbaba

I did this last year, bought the bike in Kat and got my CDP through the RAC in UK. You can run the bike down into India no problem without the CDP, but as the bike is Nepali you will have to get the CDP stamped out of Nepal and into India, otherwise you will have problems to leave India ( as officially the bike will not have entered India). Each page of the CDP has an entry and an exit stamp and they both need to be completed to ensure return of bond. If you only wanted to visit India on the bike and then return to Nepal you wouldn't need the CDP.
UB.

Very good information. Thank you!

[Norbert Berentz]

Hi,
I travelled 2002 - 2005 with two Carnet de Passage across Asia and India - two carnets, because after only 3 days I had a crash in Latvia with a drunken car driver (after midnight): broken legs, 7 months rehabilitation and then buy one more BMW R 80 GS, and of course one more Carnet.
Only in India I had problems with the custom - not for come into the country from China / Nepal, but only to get out to Pakistan across Wagah-border (Arimtsar / Lahore); there they have a very properly border procedure, even with daily parades, no exeptions possible:
They did not want to let me out of India, because my carnet was valid only one year, but my second start to travel (with a fine new Carnet) was in January 2003, 3 1/2 years before.
I told the custom officers, that of course this Carnet is still guilty, because I must bring back this "old" Carnet with a EU-custom stamp and only then I will get back my 3000 €. All my trying (also offering some money) did not help, I had to let back my bike in India - where it is standing and waiting for me until today!!
And back home in Germany, of course I did not get back my deposit money from the german auto-club ADAC - I had to wait and write and wait, etc. until 2013, then finally I got my money back, 14 years after I made the deposit of 3000 € to the ADAC (of course with no interest money!!)
Therefore never again with Carnet!! - also because I am no longer inhabitant of any country; I am a traveller for the coming ten years; the world is my home (and the roads and garages!).

Norbert Berentz
- actual in Pointe-Noire (Congo - Brazzaville), looking for an angolan visa!

[hebbo]

After having brought an Enfield from Nepal down to Cambodia in 2014, I wouldn't bother to get a CdP on the motorcycle. No one ever checks the CdP at the borders. Not entering India, not leaving through Moreh border into Myanmar.

Hope this helps.
Angel

[Uselessbaba]

Hebbo,
no one asked for your CDP entering India from Nepal on a Nepali bike because it is not required,(India and Nepal have an 'open' border) nor is it required for Myanmar (Burma). It is, however required for Pakistan, Iran and having done this run in both directions more than once, I can assure you that they do insist on it !
UB.