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INDIA (from Thailand)

I have a Thai registred TT250 in Bangkok which I want to take to India. Is there anyway this is possible without a carnet? I am having difficulty locating any sort of Trade office in Thailand that issues carnets. I know it would be cheaper probably to go over there and just buy an Enfield, but I like my Yam!

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I don't think that's possible. Try checking out the AIT site (link on the left under Carnet...) to find the organisation that issues carnets in Thailand.

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Thanks Peter!
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Hi,

I've been in S-E-Asia for a while and at the moment i'm in Indonesia. I think it's not possible to get a carnet in Thailand as they're not connected to the Automobile club association. That's also a reason why they don't recognize the carnet as an official document(But they still stamp it if you can talk you're way out of their papers).
Anyway,i think the way to do it is to get a carnet from your home country. The same way people do who buy an enfield in Nepal and drive it back overland to Europe. It should be possible to have a carnet send to you by your automobile club.
I hope this helps you out a bit.
Great idea to take your TT all the way.
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I'm looking into the same trip but backwards. My little plan I'm toying with is to fly to India (from BK), buy an enfield and drive it back to Thailand. Then in one year ride it back to India.
Any ideas about a Carnet in India?
What route are you taking? I hear Burma is nearly impossible to get through so you must be going Laos, China and over. I'd love to learn more about your route, please send me any info... [ADDRESS IN PROFILE]
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india : CPD needed.

thailand : they don t recognize / use the CPD. at the boder/customs when you get in (by air : bangkok airport or land : poipet, i experienced both), you fill a declaration called "simplified customs declaration form (for motor car and motor cycle temporarily imported or exported) -i have the paper in front of me-. they calculate the value of your bike and if you break the agreement stated , i guess you have to pay the fine = the value calculated.

lao : same as thailand, declaration called "laissez-passer" (i have the paper in front of me). i crossed by land near the golden trinagle.

cambodia : at the lao-cambodia border near 4000 islands, i did no declaration process.

vietnam : when i was in lao, in pakse, i went to the vietnamese consulate : they told me no bike over 100 cc is allowed in vietnam and i didn t push my luck / go.

in thailand and lao, i think i asked and they gave me more than a month, 3 months possible i guess (i can t read correctly the 2 declarations anymore).

burma : i tried to go from india : didn t succeed to reach the border via manipur state (city : imphal). tried again from thailand (near the golden triangle) : at the border, they told me "no" with your bike.

china : haven t tried.

bhutan : came in from india without visa with the bike but they kicked me out of the country after 24 hours (i only staied at the border city).

burma, china, vietnam : see other posts, other travellers experiences, for "sucess" stories.

this info is from late 2003 / early 2004. things may have changed. all those declarations were free or 1-2-3 usd.

nota bene : countries mentionned where i ve been : no vehicle insurance required or compulsory, national or/and international driving license required or recommended.


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I'm looking into the same trip but backwards. My little plan I'm toying with is to fly to India (from BK), buy an enfield and drive it back to Thailand. Then in one year ride it back to India.
Any ideas about a Carnet in India?
Poa, this is not possible. For answers why please search for words like "India buy enfield carnet". This is a FAQ. There is also some info under the carnet link on the left.

Try your luck in Nepal.

In any case, the only direction you can go far from India is West, cause China is almost as difficult as Myanmar.

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Peter and Vincent,
Thanks for the info, I read the other posts relating to the issue. Looks like I'll stick to SE Asia this summer (hot and possibly wet). No matter I'll be smiling.
Are there any ways to ride from Thailand to Europe on a big bike? Or are we trapped here between the opression in Burma and politics in China. Seems I need the jedi power and a BMW sponsorship to get me out of this one.
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From reading other posts your options seem to be:

Pay lots of money and go with guides through China. The govt. gets most of the dosh.

Dto. for Burma. Try the http://www.7daystour.de/ agency who "advertised" here some time ago.

Fly your bike to either Kathmandu or Dhaka. India is apparently not recommended, due to bureacracy.

In any case, you need a carnet.

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Vincent, do you think that it's possible to bring a car in similarly? I've been told [it was in French so maybe I didn't get it] that with a car they ask for the cash up front, then it's refunded on leaving; that there is the possibility of payments on leaving either way.

More general question, do people know the relative price of shipping from India to Thailand? As it looks as though Burma is a struggle, politics aside; China possibly even less auto-friendly than Burma, the sensible option must be the boat, although have I seen signs that it's quite pricey?

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Incidentally I was referring to the "fine"/caution for Thailand

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hello,

you want to send a car from india to thailand, right ? by sea, i guess ?

for the shipping costs, see http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/tri...t/shipping.php (shipments by travelers).

for the fine/caution, i don t know for car : in advance/on the spot or just like a bike.
you can ask to the travellers communities :
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/community/
and to the bangkok riders club :
http://www.geocities.com/bkkriders/
or any company for a quotation.
see also some shipping info on my website :
http://vincent.danna.free.fr/infos/t...imeaerien.html

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