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Expired Carnet in KTM

I have a friend who has bought a GB registered bike here in KTM, it was ridden out here by the previous owner and the carnet expired waaaay back! She knew this when she bought it and is willing to chance her arm driving around Nepal with it- the previous owner had been doing this for 3 years no probs.

Question is, if she now wants to go legit, ( as she plans to take it to India) what are the options? The previous owner has obviously forfeited his bond with the RAC. So would they now be willing to issue a new carnet with a new bond? The V5 will be in my friend's name.

I fear it won't be as easy as writing to Mr Gowan and asking for a new carnet...

Even if she then gets a new carnet, there is the issue of getting an import stamp put into it...as we know anything is possible in this part of the world.


Any thoughts appreciated.
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Wow, what a can of worms, couldn't she just have found an Indian one ? Firstly, you say the V5 will be in her name, but surely it will have to go back to DVLC first, which begs the question was it SWORNED or not, if not then back tax will be due in UK. If the bike was registered with Nepali customs when it entered Nepal, ie it was stamped in on the CDP, then they have a record of it entering and it should have been surrendered to Nepali customs as soon as the CDP expired, there will also be the matter of outstanding Nepali roadtax @ 108 Nrps a day. Unfortunately, even if you can get a new CDP, it doesn't really help you, as getting a Nepali import stamp put in it is only half the problem, as you cannot enter Nepal without exiting India. So, first you must enter India, then you can leave India and enter Nepal and then you can leave Nepal and re-enter India, of course, in order to discharge your CDP and return your deposit, you will then need to leave India again and ride the bike back to UK, as that is the bikes country of registration.
Personally, I would say you have 2 options
1) ride the bike around Nepal and then sell it on............
2) The Nepali/India borders close at night, you could ride the bike through after dark (Saunali is a good post for this as there is not much of a barricade ) Stay at the uptdc 200mtrs down the road and walk back through to Nepal in the morning to get your passport stamped.
Of course, you are now riding a completely illegal bike in India, but you are already doing that in Nepal anyway !
In my experience, you will be very unlikely to be stopped or bothered by police in India and a few Rps will usually sort them out.
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no problem

sneaking in to india whidaout a carne easy tray sunali or nepalganj bordear i have made it truw nepalganj bordear to india 3 weaks ago whidaout a carne the indian custum is aftear the passportcontrol and when passport is stampt yuo drive and dont whorry about the custom the whil yeal and teal yuo to stop but just drive the whont folow yuo no problems maybea yuor bigest problem is the nepali road tax that yuo maybea have to pay but that is easy to avoid just stay awhay from nepali custom office the indian nepali bordear is kaos and that is good news four yuo no one nows what the heal is going one good luck
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if you get a fresh carnet at RAC, then leaving nepal will be interesting, could bribe your way maybe.

I came through the Siraguli border a few days ago and the head of customs I had to explain which parts to stamp, and he didn't notice that my vehicle had been in the country for 8 instead of the allowed 6 months.

Agree that Sunali border is the easiest border to run. The tip is to park way before it, walk down, get your passport stamped, walk back and ride quickly through.

I don' think the Nepali police would ask for tax with a brit plate, this is only bought by indian plated vehicles coming into Nepal. The police were having a really big clamp down on Indian plated bikes with no tax as of a week or so ago in Pokhara.

I spent 8 months there and only had to show a driving licence, although they did ask for 'blue book' I proceeded to dig out my V5 but I always caused too much of a traffic jam and was waved through.
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Thanks guys, all good info. Will let you know how it pans out.
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