 |
|
2 Oct 2009
|
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 95
|
|
|
Is Newlands now Deadlands?
Hi Redboots,
do you have a current address for Newlands, all there web sites come up as non existent, maybe they have been closed down?
Simon
|
7 Oct 2009
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Beijing
Posts: 19
|
|
|
Agents
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon R
Hi Redboots,
do you have a current address for Newlands, all there web sites come up as non existent, maybe they have been closed down?
Simon
|
Newland is apparently down, at least the site. Sorry, I can't provide a phone numer.
These are the agents who say they can, with newland down at the moment.
http://www.newlandtravel.net/
::Foreign Vehicle Entry & Travel: China, Xinjiang, license, permits, Torugart Pass, Irkeshtam Pass, Khunerab Pass, Karakoram Highway, Pakistan::
http://johncafe.net/admin/news/newscn33.htm
Xinjiang China Silk Road Adventure Travel Guide Tour Service Urumqi Xinjiang China tours guide tour operator
These are some guys who may be able to guide you to other agents:
SW China & Tibet Specialists - Haiwei Trails
Hidden China GmbH - Individuelle Touren, klassische Reisen, Abenteuerreisen, Gruppenreisen, Trekking, 4WD und Motorrad Reisen in China, Tibet und der Mongolei
Good luck
|
7 Oct 2009
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Beijing
Posts: 19
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinabiker
Newland is apparently down, at least the site. Sorry, I can't provide a phone numer.
|
Just dug these out of my archives:
Kashgar New Land TravelTel: 0998-2535278, 2523325, 2524505
E-mail: newlandtravel@hotmail.com
Fax: 0998-2535277
webmaster@ newlandtravel.net
P.S. Political highly sensitive days, these days. This may be the reason why they are down.
|
7 Oct 2009
|
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 95
|
|
|
Thank you kindly for all the links. I will do a bit more planning and quotation hunting.
Simon
|
7 Oct 2009
|
 |
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: On the border - NE FR
Posts: 865
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon R
Thank you kindly for all the links. I will do a bit more planning and quotation hunting.
|
Sorry for the late/none reply... been away. Anyway, the info already given is what I have, but I have just remembered on other contact...
JOHN of John's Cafe in Kashgar. He operates out of the Semen Hotel and as the name suggests, has a cafe. Abdul Wahab of Newlands travel used to operate out of the same hotel so I'm sure if you contact them they will tell you if he is still about. Maybe they do the guide service as well now... either way it cant hurt to contact them and John can point you in the right direction.
John
Seamen Hotel.
__________________
Nostradamus Ate My Hamster
|
8 Oct 2009
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: On the road ...
Posts: 262
|
|
|
I'm currently in Kyrgyzstan and have been trying to arrange the China crossing for about 3 months now (unsuccessfully). As far as I know, most agents still operate (I am in touch with Taher - sort of). The problem is that Phone calls, fax, email, internet - anything - from abroad to Xinjiang and vice versa is blocked at the moment. So in order to arrange things I am sending my stuff to a chinese friend of mine in Germany, who in turn has friends in China. From some provinces within China it is possible to call Xinjiang, and thus going back and forth like that it looks like I will be able to arrange things. I am also told that it should be possible to call the agents once you are in China, and try to sort things out from there. Not neccessarily riding yourself, but maybe putting the bike on a truck from Kashgar to Sost (Pakistan). I'll let you know how it goes ... keep your fingers crossed for me :-)
|
18 May 2010
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Kashgar
Posts: 11
|
|
|
I,m alive .
Hi there , dear Friends , sorry the disappearing , since last July Internet is unavailable ,so I have now way to update any informations either coordinate , right now Every things are fine here , internet avaialble same as usual , you can acess here .
any information needs , please feel free contact to me
Cheers Taher 
|
1 Jul 2010
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 3
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon R
Does anyone know a tour organiser who can arrange paperwork and travel permits for China Tibet at a reasonable rate. We are a group of six trying to organise a ride but being quoted US$6600 P/P just for paperwork guide and vehicle?  |
If you are interested in riding Sidecars, in detail a Chang Jiang 750 (Copy of the BMW R 71) in Tibet. I have some of them in Lhasa and can organise a Trip for you. Budget for a two week Trip start from Shaghai to Lhasa, ride to Everest Base Camp and around then back to Lhasa and back to Shanghai for about 3500 USD full package p.P
|
14 Apr 2011
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9
|
|
|
Hi,
We are 3 french people doing a long road trip this summer from India to Paris, via Pakistan, China and Khirgizistan. We plan to arrive at the Pakistani-Chinese border between the 21st of August and the 30th of August. We will then need a guide from Pundjerab pass up to the Khirgiz-Chinese border, as asked by the chinese authorities. We are currently looking for people who would like to join us to reduce the costs, and we are also asking several touring agencies to try and find the best price (for now the best we have found was 550$/pers, but seems strange, as it is quite lower than the others). Feel free to reply to my post if you have any useful information, or if you want to join us!
Thanks a lot,
Best regards,
Samuel
|
15 Apr 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Lahore, Pakistan
Posts: 327
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 08Samuel
Hi,
We are 3 french people doing a long road trip this summer from India to Paris, via Pakistan, China and Khirgizistan. We plan to arrive at the Pakistani-Chinese border between the 21st of August and the 30th of August. We will then need a guide from Pundjerab pass up to the Khirgiz-Chinese border, as asked by the chinese authorities. We are currently looking for people who would like to join us to reduce the costs, and we are also asking several touring agencies to try and find the best price (for now the best we have found was 550$/pers, but seems strange, as it is quite lower than the others). Feel free to reply to my post if you have any useful information, or if you want to join us!
Thanks a lot,
Best regards,
Samuel
|
Locals living around northern KKH (Gilgit & Hunza) in Pakistan dont need visas to visit or work in China and many of them own businesses there. They can be a good source of information and contacts in China. You will be crossing this area on your way.
|
15 Apr 2011
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9
|
|
|
Hi Omie,
thanks for your reply. In the meantime we have contacted several touring agent, and have received the following quote:
If the 3 motorcycles and stay in China 5 days the cost is: 1300 USD The cost in detail is as following: 1 Permit for enter China: 50 USD2 license plates: 30 USD *3 motorcycles = 90 USD 3 Insurance for the guest: 10 USD p/p *3= 30 USD 4 Insurance for the third person: 40 USD *3 / motorcycles = 120 USD 5 Fee for the Customs: Khoqirap Pass: 200 USD for three motorcycles Turgart pass: 200 USD for three cycles 6 Driving License: 20 USD *3= 60 USD 7 Service for the guide: 80 USD a day * 5 days= 400 USD 8 Trance for the guide: 150 USD. ( Kashgar –Khonqirap Pass and Kashgar- Irkeshitan pass).
Do you know a bit about the details? For instance the customs fee seems huge, and I don't know what "Trance for the guide" means...
Thanks a lot,Best regards,Samuel
|
15 Apr 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Lahore, Pakistan
Posts: 327
|
|
|
Hi Sam,
Entry into Pakistan from Khanjerab is a preferred route and the only one where you can get VOI. I havent taken my bike to China (prefer renting or buying 125 cc) so cant comment but HUBBERS like Donato (Dnicolletti), Fabian (Saliadarunavuelta) and many others who crossed China should be able to help.
Regards
Omar
|
21 Oct 2012
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Warrington UK
Posts: 703
|
|
|
Is Taher still around?
What email does he respond to these days?
vette
|
22 Oct 2012
|
|
Gold Member
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 33
|
|
TBH, I still remain very skeptic about the real need to hire a guide and have all these overpriced paperwork bureaucracy done by agency stuff in order to fit to chinese laws.
The following website kept my attention:
Provisions on Administration of Motor Vehicles and Drivers of Temporary Entry
I will be travelling to China for XMas 2012 (not by bike tho), which will be my second visit to this country. I will try to figure out In Situ, with, of course, the help of native chinese.
Personally, in the scope of my later SE Asia trip, it will be black or white. Either travel alone or simply avoid China (alternatively a cheap flight and a couple of weeks stay will definitely be much more worth the money tho)
Cheers
__________________
*** Travelling is an everyday discovery of our own ignorance ***
|
25 Oct 2012
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Warrington UK
Posts: 703
|
|
|
Hello Arkean,
That is an interesting document, which suggests an easier temporary import, than what the agents would have us believe.
It almost appears that one can do this import of temporary motor vehicle one self.
OK, the foreign language to Chinese translations would need to be handled by a translator services of acceptance to the Beijing Traffic management.
Did you say that you were planning to visit China in December 2012, but without your bike?
Then I hope you will be able to find more information on the temporary import situation.
vette
(pm sent)
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|
helps answer the question - Why Go? Inspirational stories by veteran travellers Greg Frazier (5 times RTW), Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries), Tiffany Coates (Mongolia Mayhem) and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).
Get Ready! covers planning, paperwork, medical and many other topics! "Inspirational and Awesome!" See the trailer here!
What stuff do I need - riding gear, clothing, camping gear, first aid kit, tires, maps and GPS? What don't I need? How do I pack it all in? Lots of opinions from over 150 travellers!
break down language barriers, overcome culture shock, ship the bike and deal with breakdowns and emergencies."Just makes me want to pack up and go!" See the trailer here!
Grant demystifies the black art of Tire Changing and Repair to help you STAY on the road! "Very informative and practical." See the trailer here!
Ladies on the Loose! For the first time ever, a motorcycle travel DVD made for women, by women! These intrepid women share their tips to help you plan your own motorcycle adventure. They also answer the women-only questions, and entertain you with amazing tales from the road! Presented by Lois Pryce, veteran solo traveller through South America and Africa and author of 'Lois on the Loose', and 'Red Tape and White Knuckles.'
Cotton or synth sweat-wicking t-shirts with the cool Horizons Unlimited graphic on the front and a snappy slogan (changing every year) on the back.
Show your route on your panniers. Great conversation starter when you meet people on the road!
Motorcycle and travel books to inspire and inform you!
The definitive guide to planning your motorcycle adventure! This insanely ambitious 2-year project has produced an informative and entertaining 5-part, 18 hour video series. "The ultimate round the world rider's how-to!" MCN UK.
Linear Mode
