Didnt get a temporary import at Brazilian border - What do I do ?

[*Touring Ted*]

OOOOOPS !!!

I crossed from Argentina to Brazil about a week ago with 2 Americans and we are now on the other side of Brazil in Florianopolis.

Now, at the border we explained to customs (as best we could) that we were travelling for sometime by motorcycle and we needed a tempory import for our bikes.

The guy insisted that we didnt need one and only needed insurance in case we were stopped so we rolled into Brazil with a big smile on our faces.

Only after bumping into other bikers (who have tempory imports) did we realise that we need one....

So.. Do we just carry on as normal and hope they dont ask for it at the Venezualian border (they dont usually at other borders) or should we try somehow to get one.. (how and where I dont know) !!

[charapashanperu]

Ted,

I entered Brazil (8 months ago) via the Peruvian border at Asis Brasil, and the customs area was under construction. We were told to drive to Brasileia (110 km in) and have them do the paperwork there at the Cobija, Bolivia border.

Then we exited via Foz (did the paperwork out and in twice as we were rejected by Argentina because the bikes were not in our names) and everything was very formal...

But then we had to return to Peru via Bolivia, and at the Corumba, Brazil border they were under construction and we were supposed to go back to Corumba to exit correctly, but we had already crossed into Bolivia... The next country does not care about the paperwork from the previous country, they just look at your originals and make their own...

I asume you are headed north to Porto Velho, Manaus, and on to Venezuela. There are a few side roads to Bolivia fairly close. There is one directly west of Vilhena, then another that shoots southwest from Porto Velho. Maybe a zip across at an "informal" border, then back into Brazil getting the proper papers, then continue north again.....

I don't know the Brazil-Venezuela north border crossing, but I would imagine MANY have passed that way....

Toby (charapa) Around the Block 2007 |

[Vorteks]

The border between Brazil and Venezuela (Pacaraima) is a "free port" a bit like Corumba so control is very sparse, especially for motorcycle. The venezuelian customs office doesnt ask you for the brazilian paper, they just need your personal entrance stamp in your passport and vehicule ownership document.

You shouldnt get any problem passing the border...and in Brazil just show again your resident vehicule ownership proof, since the Pocilia Federal officers in the street are not aware of what customs requiere to enter the country (as you saw even customs officers dont know regarding non Mercosur vehicules).

Enjoy your trip see you in Venezuela

PS : I had a similar problem since I exited in Corumba and came back from Bolivia through a small village called San Vicente south of Caceres. My mistake was to go to the central Policia Federal office in Manaus to legalise my papers. Result was expulsion within 3 days and 827 reales fine. Civil servants there are not the wisest of South America. My argentine travel mate who didnt bother to do the exit papers in Corumba didnt get bothered.

[Stretcher Monkey]

Don´t let it spoil your trip through Brasil. I entered at Chuy and exited at Santa Elena about 3 years ago. This border is extremely laid back and it´s almost too much trouble to tell them that you are going. Biggest problem was on entering Venezuela and finding infinite queues for cheap gas - you have to jump to the front, and I did not experience any violence as a result!

Oh, yeah, just keep the speed down between those topes in villages and you shouldn´t get stopped. It only happened to me because my placa fell off. The rozzer stopped me, showed me his concealed moto t-shirt whilst a bloke on a push-bike caught up clutching the offending item to collect his reward. Sweet!

[MotoEdde]

I would file a police report of a mugging and include your lost document as an item. Therefore, when you show up at the border, you'l have a police report instead.

[Duncan the cook]

You do not need a temporary import if you are in Brazil for less than 90days! According to the Footprint Guide.
dlso is my charger still at Dakar
Thanks
Duncan

[*Touring Ted*]

Originally Posted by Duncan the cook

You do not need a temporary import if you are in Brazil for less than 90days! According to the Footprint Guide.
dlso is my charger still at Dakar
Thanks
Duncan

Ahhhh this what I wanted to hear

Im just going to see what happens at the border and hopefully your right.

P.S. Your charger is back in merry England. I thought you wanted me to send it home and post it to you there. :confused1:

[Duncan the cook]

Thanks,
That is what I said about the charger, just that Iwould have been through B.A. in may so would have picked it up. I,ll send an address in U.K. when I get back
Thanks Again
Duncan

[Stretcher Monkey]

"You do not need a temporary import if you are in Brazil for less than 90days! According to the Footprint Guide"

Interesting.

Any info. on how long this has been the case, as as far as I am aware the longest initial import you can get is fo 90 days. I guess this means that Brasil is the place to sell your bike then?

Very interesting...

[swegho]

I went in and out Brasil from Argentinia and Paraguay 2 moth´s ago and I didn´t need any paper for it. So relax...