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Old 25 Jul 2006
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Selling or just leaving a bike in Argentina ??

Hi, I am about to leave the U.S. on a U.S. registered KLR. The plan is to make it to Argentina, where I will fly back to the US. I will not have a carnet. I don't really care if I sell the bike or not - I will have my money's worth by then. Will I be able to fly out of Argentina if I just give the bike away or just leave it there? Is there going to be some tax or something? What if I do manage to sell it? Thanks!

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Selling in Argentina is hard work, selling in Ascuncion, Paraguay, is much easier and you'll get a reasonable price. But if you really can't be arsed then yep, you can just dump it with er gay abandon. You won't be the first. The bike's not registered in your passport, you won't have to pay any tax. Why not donate it to Javier at Dakar Motors as a rat bike slash spares mule?

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Selling the bike in Arg.

If you can spare some extra time in Arg. you can publish the bike as a "parts only" bike in mercadolibredotcomdotar (ebay) or derematedotcomdotar. If you spend about 7 to 10 days following up and selling, you'll probably get a reasonable amount of money for plastics and other parts. Engine cannot be sold complete due to engine number limitations, but the rest should be fine. This is how crashed bikes are sold in Argentina (and probably elsewhere in the world). There are a few KLR and KLXs around so there should be a decent market for parts.

All the above is based on partial knowledge + biased opinion. I'm not entirely familiar with law limitations.

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Selling in Argentina is hard work, selling in Ascuncion, Paraguay, is much easier and you'll get a reasonable price. But if you really can't be arsed then yep, you can just dump it with er gay abandon. You won't be the first. The bike's not registered in your passport, you won't have to pay any tax. Why not donate it to Javier at Dakar Motors as a rat bike slash spares mule?

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OR , leave it at Dakar motors to be sold on your behalf to a fellow traveller and pay Dakar Motors some commision .
Bike could be serviced in the meantime and be ready to be ridden north .
Just a suggestion !

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Hi, I am about to leave the U.S. on a U.S. registered KLR. The plan is to make it to Argentina, where I will fly back to the US. I will not have a carnet. I don't really care if I sell the bike or not - I will have my money's worth by then. Will I be able to fly out of Argentina if I just give the bike away or just leave it there? Is there going to be some tax or something? What if I do manage to sell it? Thanks!

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Nate,

Are you in NJ? If you are I would be interested in seeing the bike and might want to buy it from you once you return home.

I have friends in Argentina who can store the bike for me.

I'm in Tappan, NY.... let me know.

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Just to let you know that it is illegal to sell any bike in Argentina, also you can not give the bike away as a gift, as the new owner then become's liable for import tax of 40 to 50% of the market value of the bike even if you are leaving the country with it. (See my thread impounded bike in Argentina) Best to be carefull here, it would be far safey to transfer the bike as said before in Uruguay. or if you do just dump it take the plate and numbers off first
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One option would be to sell the bike, and transfer the title, while keeping the original title as well in the first owner's name - so you now have two titles, both in different names (or at least a certified bill of sale). Jump on the ferry from Buenos Aires to Colonia, Uruguay with with bike and both the previous and the new owner. This way the previous owner can export the bike from Argentina in his/her name - so no problem with customs - and when you arrive to Uruguay the new owner can import it into Uruguay in their name. At this point the new owner has the title in their name, and is in Uruguay with the importation certificate in their name. From then on no problems, either travel in Uruguay or turn right around and take the ferry back to Argentina, importing the bike this time in the new owners name with the current title.

Note that this only works for non-Argentinian/Uruguyan citizens. Nobody can import a moto temporarily into their own country, since they're not there as a tourist. Nor can they do a permanent import without paying a huge import tax, and often it's not even possible at all, even with paying an importation tax. Shouldn't be any problem though for any foreigner.

If you cross on the ferry they give you 8 month on return to Argentina. When I came in from Tierra del Fuego in the south they gave me 10 months.
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Wow thanks for all the help. Ill be in touch down the road. I wish I could send private messages on this thing, but I cant. But Ill be around. Now it looks like we may be ending the trip in Santiago Chile instead of BA, but we´ll see about that. But thansk again for all the help.
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Do you still have the bike?
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I{m in Peru, when do you expect to be in Santiago?
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Hi,for what i heard he had an accident in Bolivia!Bike useless and he was flight out to USA.
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