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Old 1 Mar 2007
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Exclamation Leaving Chile on Chilean Bike as Foreigner

Ok friends, so you all can avoid the current problem I have, here is the deal.

If You try to cross from Chile into Peru or Bolivia on a Chilean Registered Bike, and you are not chilean, or have residence, YOU CANNOT TAKE THE BIKE OUT! I know there is a belief here that if you buy in chile you can do whatever you want more or less, but I can attest that if you do not have residency, and you try to go to anywhere but Argentina THEY WILL NOT LET YOU TAKE YOUR MOTO. I have been in Arica for 5 days now trying to get my motorcycle out any way I can, and the only way for it to work is for a chilean to take it out of the country for me. When i bought my chilean bike, i was under the impression that you can take it anywhere, but i guess I was wrong. I have tried twice now with customs, and speak spanish well, and still have not been allowed through. Now, I am going to have to gain authorization for a chilean to take it to peru, then we ride through customs together on my bike, and in peru he leaves and I continue on. Just wanted to give you all a heads up so you dont have the same problem as me. IF YOU ARE NOT FROM CHILE, YOU CANNOT TAKE A CHILEAN REGISTERED BIKE INTO PERU FROM CHILE( i havent tried bolivia, so i cant attest to that border, but the customs guys tell me its the same). Maybe you will get really lucky and have a stupid customs guy, or maybe i am real unlucky and have gotten two bad customs guys, but the law is that it cannot be done. Best Of luck with everything friends, and safe rides. I should be out of Chile in a few more days ( after having to pay a chilean to ride on the back of my bike and pretend he is taking it into peru, then pay for him to come back to arica.) I guess I could go down to argentina, then up into bolivia, then into peru, but thats a LONG WAY from here. Cheers Friends

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Lightbulb It Can Be Done

Sorry but you are wrong, maybe you make a mistake.

It can be done.

Last year I help an Australian guy to do this , search in the forum is name was Phill .

The thing is:

1) Obtain a RUT (ID) in any registro civil office (Servicio de Registro Civil e Identificación

2) Buy a street legal bike ( sign the contract at a “notaria”)

3) Transfer the bike at your name in a registro civil office and obtain de “padron” yellow paper that shows that the bike is yours.


Point 3) has to be done by you at the registro civil office, with the original sales /buy contract (“contrato de compraventa”) that was signed by you and the seller at the notaria.

4) You´re done

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I wish it were true

Joe,

I know man, i tried to tell the customs guys the same stuff, but they didnt care. I did everything stated there (i have a RUT, and the bike is currently being transferred to my name, I have all the papers of the old owner and the transfer papers , and for now i have authorization from a notaria to take the bike out of the country) . Even if I did have the padron, they said it doesnt matter. Under chilean customs law, only a chilean, or residents can take out vehicles into peru. The boss pulled the law up on the computer and showed me it in writing. Either its a new law or something, but as a foreigner, unless you have residency, you can only take a chilean bike into argentina, and from there you can go where you want. You cannot pass from arica into peru without residency. You can go to argentina, and then from there wherever you want, because there is an agreement between chile and argentina. I know its crazy that I cant get through, because I have known people who have done it also. All I am saying, is if you come up to Arica as a foreigner, and have a chilean bike, and think you are taking it into peru..... you likely are going to have problems. I talked to the boss of all aduanas up here, and my spanish is almost perfect, so its not like i just missed something in translation. Take my advice how you want, I am just trying to help. What I have to do now to get into peru is have authorizacion made for a chilean to take it into peru, then we ride there together, and once inside peru he turns around and comes back..... Like I said, you can believe me or not or think I am stupid. Do what you will. I am just trying to help out other people. Do what you will with this information...... From Arica into peru as a foreigner on a chilean bike = problems in customs. Thats all I can say...... Take care friends
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Do I really need the Carte Poder to leave the country ?

After spending two months now in South America, I have finally found and bought a bike in Chile, with great help from some people of HU. I bought a Honda Nighthawk 250 through a dealer, with the following documents :

- Certificado de Inscripcion paper (on the old owners name)
- Compra-Vente (signed by me and old owner)
- Solicitud de Transferencia (signed by the dealer and notaria)

- Securo Obligatorio for Chile (on my name)
- Securo de Responsibilidat Civil for MERCOSUR (on my name)
- Permission de Circulation (on my name)

- Certificado de Emisiones Contaminantes (on the old owners name)
- Revision Technica Clase B (on the old owners name)

The dealer completed the transaction at the notaria and he told me that I won't need the Carte Poder / Legal Permission from the old owner, because it is my bike now.

I have been waiting to leave in Santiago for a month, but I would like to be sure I won't get any problems at the border. The old owner is not around, so it would take another few days to do that paper.

Could anyone confirm whether I do or don't need this permission to leave the country ?

Thanks for your help !

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Buying a BIke in Chile

I am touring from South America to North America with my boyfriend on an Afric Twin, but looking for my own bike to buy now. We are in Argentina but have not had too much luck buying a bike here so we are thinking of going to Santiago and buying one there because it does seem to be an easier process, and one that seems completley legal. We would leave Chile into Argentina, down to Usia, and then back up north to the States, probably through Chile. Sounds like if I bought my bike in Chile and then went to Argentina I should have no problems, but then I wonder if I went back into Chile and on to Bolivia I wonder if that would be a problem.....would you happen to know zappalives?

Also Rienk I was wondering how your crossing went without the Carte Poder and did you need all that paperwork, or would Joes paperwork suffice, or I assume some of those papers accomplish the same task..
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Dear Zappalives

My recent thread may shed some light on your situation. After extensive research I have discovered a way to buy new or used in Argentina, legally tour South America, return to Argentina and legally sell or park the bike for as long as you want.

If A resident of Chile or a Chilean must "take the bike out" does this mean the bike must also be in the name of that person? Does not seem right to me, (after having crossed into and out of Chile) that a foreign tourist could buy in Chile, ride to border of Peru, simply ask one of nummerous Chilean "helpers" found at the border, to legally ride the bike out. It seems to me that this person, the "helper" might have to be a title holder of the bike. If this is so, be careful and find out if that same person must sign transfer papers if you wish to sell your bike, once you return to Chile, or anywhere else in the world.

I have strong contacts amoung several professors teaching at Universidad of Tarapaca in Arica, and Elisa (Dr. Elisa Rosales, citizen of Spain) (she is here with me in Buenos Aires) taught there for one semester, if you run out of options, I will be happy to call my contacts and ask if they might help you.

Meanwhile, I remember having to have a taxi lead us from the border of Chile into Peru to the nearest Peruvian insurance company. This was required by police in Peru to allow our bikes in...., we could not purchase Peruvian bike insurance in Arica.... period. Then, after having purchased the insurance we had to return to the border and only then we were legally admitted into Peru by the peruvian authorities.

The insurance issue may be something you have not considered in connection with your denial of exit from Chile.

Let me know if you want my university contacts. Good luck and keep us posted... xfiltrate
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Has anyone tried this recently?

I am currenly in Santiago and looking at bikes to buy. I was was planning on heading up to Arica and on into Peru if this is possible. Has anyone (as a foriegner with a bike from Chile) tried this recently? Any advice on extra papers or Seguros I might need to get into Peru or Bolivia for that matter? Thanks for your help.
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Any updates on this situation. I am on a chilean honda falcon and intend on going to Peru.
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Update: I was able to cross from SP de At into Bolivia on a Chilean bought Honda Falcon. I have a RUT, the power of attournry from the notario giving me permission to travel on the bike, and the title in the original owner´s name.

No hassles on the Chilean side and customs way out past Lago Colorado in Bolivia was super tranquilo.
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crossing from Chile to Argentina without problems but from Argentina to Chile not?

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You can go to argentina, and then from there wherever you want, because there is an agreement between chile and argentina. I know its crazy that I cant get through, because I have known people who have done it also.

hi,

sorry, can I pls just ask one thing? I am just in the process of buying a vehicle in Argentina or Chile (§$$%???%$%§!) but I was told in Argentina that from here I can not simply cross the boarder to Chile unless I have my residency, i.e. DNI here.. So, is it really different the other way round or was it just someone who got lucky again?
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hi,

sorry, can I pls just ask one thing? I am just in the process of buying a vehicle in Argentina or Chile (§$$%???%$%§!) but I was told in Argentina that from here I can not simply cross the boarder to Chile unless I have my residency, i.e. DNI here.. So, is it really different the other way round or was it just someone who got lucky again?
It's much easier to buy in Chile. You simply new a RUT (tax ID), make your purchase, see a notario, get a Power of Attourney & apply for title. The tiltle can be picked up 3 weeks later at any aduanas.

Once you have the POA you can go where ever you like.
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+1 to it being easier to buy in Chile.

Incidentally, the situation on the Peru border when I was there (Jan 2011) is that you can't get across the Arica / Tacna border. You can get into Bolivia over the border crossing close to Arica though and then go through into Peru.

All with a Chilean bike as a foreigner, with all appropriate paperwork (Padron etc.).
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