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Buy bike in South America? No Problem.
I'm from USA.(Minnesota) Bought a KLR650($4700US for a 2000) from dealer in Santiago Chile via email. Registered in my name and keeping it there for multiple return trips. Dealer there has good supply of all makes and helpful to foreigners.(His dealership is across the street from US Embassy!!) Registration is easy as long as you have a RUT (thier social security number) which is free and easy to get. Crossed into Argentina, Bolivia, Peru etc with Chilean title and no problems. Drop me an email if you'd like some contacts there that will help you get RUT (just need passport) and get bike registered. Many people will tell you that you can't buy a bike there. Its not true.
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arlen, do they sell africa twins there? can you sell a bike in chile at trips end?
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Yes they sell Africa Twins. Quite popular there. I have not made arrangements to sell by bike back to dealer, but I am quite sure that it can be done. Its possible that you'd have to waite for the funds until he sold it or take a hit by taking less than its worth but thats part of the adventure. Need more info let me know.
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I have a question for you - are big bikes fairly common there ( Chile / S AM in general) ?
Or are they are " I saw one a week " kind of thing ? I am thinking will it be difficult to get tyres and stuff when I go in Jan . Cheers, Chris |
Bikes of all kinds are quite common in Chile. Not a lot of big street bikes, primairily dual sports. I didn't see any Harley's but several BMW's and lots of Honda, Kawasaki Suzuki etc. Argentina has lots of bikes, primarily dual sport. I have some contacts of dealers in Peru Bolivia and Santaigo Chile if you want emails. I think you's find common sized tires fairly easily.
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I am trying to sell a BMW 1100GS that I rode down from USA. Do you have any information about the possibility of doing this or any dealers that might be interested?
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Where are you?
It is possible in some countries, but we need to know which one you wish to sell in. Assuming you are in South America, Bolivia and Brazil are probably the best. ------------------ Grant Johnson Share the Dream! at: www.HorizonsUnlimited.com |
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Thanks for the information . I have now travelled through Chile and see what you mean regarding big bikes and their parts i.e. unless you`re lucky , you`re gonna be unlucky .
I have also visited many of my fellow feathered friends and yes , I know I spell it wrong . But , it has been my handle , here and elsewhere , for too long to change it now ! Cheers, Chris |
hi,
do they sell the DR 650 (recent models) in chile or argentina? rachel |
I did not see any DR650's for sale. I did see a few DR800's on the streets, but not for sale. I have seen primarily Honda 650's and Yamaha XT600's(?) and a Tengai or two. I have a dealer email address if you'd like to contact. He's in Temuco where I bought my two KLR650's. New KLR650 is about $6000 new. Dealer will help with papers to get registered in CHile. He speaks little English. He's a great guy and very trustworthy. Email me off line at aaas@hutchtel.net if you want it.
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Now in Chile only KTM, BMW, Honda and Yamaha have dealers. Suzuki is out of bussiness.
The store in front of the US embassy is closed. To have the Chilean RUT I think in a Chilean embassy you can get it. ------------------ Ya verás como quieren en Chile al amigo cuando es forastero (traditional song) Jose Pedro Espinosa Curico, Chile |
The RUT (Chilean Social Securty Number) can be obtained from a local goverment agency. Its free. I don't remember the name of the agency, however I a friend who will take you there to get one. You need a local mailing address(you can use his...). You get a temporary RUT card and are sent a permanant one in 40 days. The temporary one is considered as offial as the permanant one as it has stamps and signatures etc on it. The RUT will allow you to purchase a vehicle etc as it is an avenue for you to be able to pay sales tax.
There is a Kawasaki dealer in Temuco (500 miles south of Santiago-cheap bus ride from the airport) who sells new Kawasaki, Honda etc and has pretty good supply of used. I bought a new 2002 KLR650 there in July 2002. Two Italians purchased new ones there too and have them stored there after a visit to Ushuahia. Let me know if you want RUT contact informtaion or Kawasaki dealer phone etc etc. Visiting Chile and Argentina is easy and very rewarding.... |
The agency is Servicio de Impuestos Internos, SII, have offices in all the country.
------------------ Ya verás como quieren en Chile al amigo cuando es forastero (traditional song) Jose Pedro Espinosa Curico, Chile |
Hi there Grant, Am in the middle of trying to plan a trip to Sth America to head off in the next month or two. Trying to work out whether it would be better to ship a bike from home(Australia) or buy over there. Just wondering if you might be able to let me know which countries would allow me to buy a bike and where would be a good place to start. Many thanks. Luke. Quote:
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I have purchased two KLR650's in Chile. Need to get a Chilean "ID" that will enable you to pay sales tax. Have contact there who will get it for you. Its free. Bikes are a little higher than US prices as our dollar is weak and thiers is not. Friend of Oz shipped his and did well. Contact me at my email if desire more specifics.
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Arlen,
Thanks for all the great info. Would you think that buying in Argentina would be any cheaper than in Chile? At present, isn't Argentina cheaper over all if one is travelling with US dollars? Not sure if a foriegner can "officially" buy a bike in Argentina or not. Thanks again, any help appreciated. |
Argentina is "cheaper" in some ways.... The old standard of determining the value of a dollar is by buying a liter of beer. Not exactly sure of the "exchange" but its about 75centsUS a liter of beer in Arg. Chile substantially higher. I strayed away from buyig a motorcycle in Argentina as I heard (heard only no personal experience) that it was not easy to buy as a foriegner. Learned that doing so in Chile was pretty simple once you learned the rules. Not a complicated process at all. Can help if you need help. Have fun!!!
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You can buy any bike you want in Chile and the main distributors are Honda, Yamaha, BMW and Harley. Susuki and Kawasaki have not many spares at hand. New bikes are expensive but you can find used at very convenient prices. Be careful and get it inspected by a mechanic certified by the Distributor. Depending on the time frame I can lend my other Yamaha Super Tenere XTZ750 in exchange for the fuel and lodging expenses of myself traveling as your buddy. Have a lot of time available since I am retired. Best regards and safe trip,
Roberto Thomson ------------------ Ride with nature |
Hi Roberto,
That sounds like a very tempting offer you are putting on the table... I'm working on taking December off to go to TdF and might be interested in taking you up on your offer...If I'm not jumping the queue... Alternatively, I am looking to buy a couple of bikes, one for December and a second one for my next trip from May to July (that would be me and a friend on that trip, so, two bikes. I like Airheads and wonder if there are any R80GS or R100GS available around Santiago? What are the rules about Road Tax and Insurance in Chile? And Peru, Bolivia, Argentinia for that matter... Any info would be hugely welcome. Cheers for now, and I must admit that I definetly envy you for being in a position to make offers like that. Jens |
In Brazil you need to establish a residence and obtain their CPF which is their tax registration number. To do this you need to have several items mailed to yourself at a Brazil addr. Once that is collected you need a Portuguese speaker to attend the Recita Federal Office with you and help through the application. That may take a full day. Once you have the number go shopping for a bike with either cash or credit card. I think purchase in Brazil is better than Argentina as I have heard that a bike registered to a foreigner in Argentina cannot leave the country. If anyone wishes to pursue this you can e mail me at wandering_richard @yahoo.ca I have Brazil residency as well as Canadian.
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Youcan find any motorcycle using this link
http://automoviles.elmercurio.com/Cl...SoloAvisos.asp If it does not work try http://elmercurio.com and check the Clasificados in Motos. All used bikes normally have their road taxes paid and third party insurance up to date. In any case check with some distributor to verify papers and mechanical condition. Don't know in Argentina but they require insurance to get thru their frontier. Glad to help if I can. Cheers, Roberto ------------------ Ride with nature |
Thanks for that info!
Sounds like it is way easier to get bikes bought, taxed, and insured in Chile than anywhere else in SAm. Looking forward to my holidays now... Jens |
If you need a contact to get the RUT (goverment document you need to pay sales tax etc) let me know and I can line you up with a friend who can help. Its pretty simple but easier if you have someone helping.
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Hey Arlen Aas.
I'm Jan Willems 24 years old from belgium. Next year I'm graduated and very willing to look adventure straight in the eye. First I want to explore India & Nepal and south-east asia. Then I will head to New sealand. and after that I want to travel through South america like Ché Guevara did. From your previous messages on this forum i learned that chile is the place to be to buy a motorbike. My plan is to start this trip in August. What should i prepare before departing to be able to buy a decent motorbike? What is the price of an old but reliable bike? Is this trip from argentina to venezuala still possible? I hope you can help me. Kind regards from a fellow adventurer |
Thanks for the kind offer Arlen. If - or should I say 'When'? Positve thinking and all that...- I get the green light from the boss (answer should come next week, he's run away!) I shall certainly be interested in any contacts that can help smoothen out the road -as long as they leave the dirt http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/smile.gif.
I'll be in touch at the time. Happy travels Jens |
Juannean:
Used bike in Chile will run $2000 US to $5000US. New KLR650 is about $8000US. I prefer the lighter(cheaper) dual sports in 650 size for South Am travel. My bikes are now in southern Chile (Punta Arenas). Will be riding to far north Chile(Arica??) in Feb 06. Then in March of '07 ride round trip to Equador/Columbia. I can give you a report on columbia at that time but you are going sooner I think. |
hello Arlen Aas.
No no, my plan is depart my trip to india in august 2006 so I will arrive in south america around Februari 2007. What I like to know what extra cost beside gasoline and the bike you will have during a trip like that? Where do you sleep? is it safe to sleep in a tent, ect... |
Hello Juanneman
First, welcome to the HUBB! You will probably find a lot of answers for your questions in older threads. To find specific information about a subject, please use the search function on top of the HUBB-Page. If you can't find the information you need, try to figure out, which forum suits best for your question. Try to be specific with your questions, for example, put a list of questions where one can answer each question separately. Some threads: - Travel cost: - http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb...ML/000486.html - http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb...ML/000556.html Security in South America: - http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb...ML/000262.html ------------------ -- Marco http://www.schnueriger.net |
I have carried a tent etc but never used it, however it is absolutely safe to camp. There are few established tent areas except for the more "turisty" areas in southern chile, but putting up a tent most anywhere is acceptable. I have always stayed in cheap motels. Chile motels cost more ($25US) for a two bed. Argentina is very inexpensive. Food is fairly inexpensive in restuarants and there are lots and lots of Supermarcado (super markets) with wide assortments of everything always including fresh breads. Wine of course is widely availabel and inexpensive even for prime wines. You can buy a liter of very good Argentina wine for less than a liter of Coke. Beers are fantastic with different beers in different regions. A liter of beer is about $.75US in Argentina. The sidewalk scenery is absolutely fantastic escpecially in Argentina. Don't miss the opportunity to site in the central square in Salta Argentina. All countries I have traveled in SA (Bolivia,Brazil,Chile,Arg,Peru) have been absolutely safe. Minor police corruption in Peru but nothing violent or serious....only happened once and it was minor.
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Arlen Aas,
Ive tried to send you an email, but your address no longer works. I am looking for contacts in South America (bike shops) who I can talk to about buying a couple of bikes (most likely BMW Adventures) next year for our trip. Im coming from Australia and so will need a dealer that can not only sell me a decent bike, but also help me with any necessary paperwork as well as sell the bike for me after our journey. If anyone has details (website, email address, etc) of any dealers that may be able to help us can you please let me know. Thanks Stu |
I don't know of a BMW dealer specifically but I know for a fact there is a good one in Santiago. I have seen numerous BMW 1200 GS's near there. I guess try to reach the dealer via a BMW search for Santiago or contact BMW directly. There is a KTM dealer in Santiago too. He's good. Do a seach for KTM Chile.
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what would be the price to buy a small bike (honda cg 125 style or honda xr250 style) in chile and where to get one (except internet) ? i land on 1st feb 2006 in santiago chile, travel to lima peru and fly back to europe on 1st march (i will try to sell it in lima). cheers |
Hi I have just tried to buy a KLR650 in Santaigo, Chile from a private seller and was told by the notoria that its impossible without the permanent RUT number, we have a temporary one, but the permanent one takes 1 month to come through!!!! Also is it possible {safe} to just go to a civil register office and not deal with the notoria? The bikes are going to be sold at the end of the trip, so everything should be legal.
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also zade's recent experience on :
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb...ML/000081.html http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb...ML/000839.html and a question, if you have answers :-) ps : in february, i ll have one month to spend in chile bolivia peru : i decided to buy a small local bike rather than shipping my g/s. - i looked for a bike, took some contacts in advance but will search and buy it on arrival; - paperwork : according to some experiences i read/heard, i know it s illegal but what do you think about this : if i bring a french numberplate + french ownership naked papers. when i buy the bike, i put the french numberplate on ; on internet, i do myself the ownership papers. it would be easier than the official standard local way, no ? what are the risks (inside the country with the police and at the borders with the customs ?). cpd (carnet de passages en douane) is not needed apparently in chile, bolivia and peru (?). then i try to sell it in lima. |
I was able to purchase vehicle the day after I got my temporary RUT. I know of a friend who did the same. That was about 4 years ago. Things may have changed.... You can go right to goverment agency to transfer papers but at some point the Notaria will have to place a stamp somewhere, then there is insurance and vehicle inspection....All steps can be done without problem as long as you have proper papers. As far as bringin g in a bike with phoney papers.....I would not suggest it if you don't have extra time. Chile is Chile....its not Bolivia or Mexico. Thier(Chile) system seems to be pretty tight. Border guys are Federal and local guys and are very professional. There are signs on the wall that clearly states that you should not try to bribe anyone... I had been at a crossing(Chile/Arg) in 2004.. In 2005, I crossed the same border going in the same direction. The border person said "welcome back!" My where-abouts was tracked in their computor system...... I suggest that you keep it legal. If you need a good English speaking contact, let me know and I can forward his cell and home phone. Enjoy your trip(s).
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Hey Lombre - That sounds like bad news! I'm heading out in March to do the same - buy a bike and ride it up to Bolivia/Peru etc... The replies on this board made it look pretty possible, have you had much more luck?
Also is it still holding true that there is no need for a Carnet for S.A. Thanks, Dave |
Arlen Aas,
thanx for your post. i have to forget the idea of the french papers because of the computerised records that they keep. + when i leave chile, they will require the temporary import document of the bike (which i will not be able to show, therefore big problems i guess). otherwise, i received this info by bikerjon : "Chile keeps records of bike in and out of country, so enter country with bike, must leave with bike. Will contact embassy if possible for tourists. Peru and Bolivia is possible to sell in. Think it can be done legally. Border crossings no problem if papers are in order. My bike is dr650, 2001 with about 38,000 miles. No poblems...great running bike, for $2500." |
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the latest info we have found out is that some notorias will accept the temporary RUT but a lot of them won't! We have now found one in the center of Santiago that is happy to go ahead with the sale, but the guy we are buying the bike from is on holiday for a week or so! Hope our luck changes soon! cheers |
lombere, hello, what s the role of a notaria (first time i hear of this for a bike - see other posts - ; in france, they are compulsory when you buy a flat/house) ? is his signature or whatever stamp compulsory in the buying act, can you skip/avoid him ? if you can resume all the paperwork and contacts you had already ? and if you have time to see for a small bike for me (125-250 cc, honda cg or xr style, 500-1000 usd budget), i arrive on 31st jan (in 6 days) in santiago and want to buy a smalll bike. if you have a cheap place to stay/guesthouse to recommend also ?
good luck to you, cheers |
Lombre - let us know how you get on with the new notaria - if he's any good then please let me know so we dont have to go through the same process of finding one who will accept the Temporary RUT.
Anyone had any experience in buying a foreign owned bike (e.g. canadian / us) and then crossing borders etc.. Guess you'd need some sort of official letter explaining the transfer of ownership as you would not be able to have the original Ownership Doc in your name.... Advice appreciated! I'm thinking to buy a machine (if possible kitted out with panniers) and then ride up to peru to sell there... Any one had any experience of selling in Peru? I'll have a hunt round and share my findings here... |
All..... I suggest buying a bike in Chile and return it to the same dealer in Chile. I know not allpeople have unlimited time, however making firm plans to sell in a different country may ruin your trip as you'll be worrying about the selling part all along. Its may be a big head ache. There is so much to see in South AMerica that a loop trip from Chile is done very easy and will not have to back-track. No worries about bike that way...
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Hi all, have you got any info about buying a bike in guatemala?
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I have also noticed the huge year gap, is there a more up to date thread regarding the same information? Cheers Tom |
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