Buying new or used in Buenos Aires
Christy, no problem helping you. As you will discover upon reading my thread
Buy new or used in Argentina and legally tour all of South America (sticky)
in Regional Forum South and Central America and Mexico....
I am on a course to have the restrictive/ confusing Argentine law/regulation prohibiting foreign tourists from exiting their Argentine registered motorcycle from Argentina for the purpose of touring other South American countries, reviewed by the legislature and restated.
I am collecting data for presentation to the legislature from foreign tourists purchasing Argentine registered new or used motorcycles. 100 Screen names are all I need.
And, I am investigating the possibilities of having the maximum Temporary Vehicle Import Permit for foreign tourists entering Argentina on their foreign registered motorcycle (USA, EU, Britain, etc), from 8 months to one year.
Buying used in Buenos Aires from an authorized dealer is generally less risky than purchasing from an individual. The GESTOR (one who transfers vehicle titles as a business) that works for the dealer, will handle the paperwork. The dealer will have all used bikes documents needed to transfer title.
Posted below is an accurate description of the paperwork involved in purchasing a used bike in Argentina. A reputable dealer will have secured paperwork needed for transfer of title from a used bike. If you buy from an individual it will be your responsibility to secure all paperwork.
The XR 250 Tornado will, of course be more expensive, than the XL 200. Of course you can contact Jorge directly, but consider that his English is limited.
PROBLEM: The used bike market is very brisk. Used bikes that dealers have in stock now will be sold very quickly, and not available months in advance.
Buying a used bike with no the Honda protection plan will affect any buy back options and perhaps your pocketbook, if the bike breaks down.
A new XR 250 Tornado will be $5,000 to $6000 dollars US, final price. I will send exact cost and cost of the XL 200 if you private message me or e-mail at the contact e-mail on my web site.
Would you consider a smaller bike, these are much, much less expensive.
Buying new is easier and less risky than buying used. To buy a new motorcycle in Argentina as a foreign tourist.
Here is an overview of what you will need to do:
Secure a "domocillio" certificate issued by LOCAL Argentine police, you must go to the police station assigned to protect your neighborhood, (your hotel etc) in Argentina.
1. The domocillio costs about 10 pesos ($3 US) and is obtained by providing the police your ID (passport) or DNI and address. The next day, a police officer will hand deliver the stamped document to your residence, where you are staying in Argentina, pension, with a friend etc.
2. Take your passport. and domocillio to your assigned AFIP office, you will have to find out which office pertains to your residence address, and get a CDI which is a tax number for foreigners , not working in Argentina. This will take about 2 hours, faster if you go early. Cost approximately 10 argentine peso.
3. Investigate auto insurance, so after you purchase and your "Gestor" (one who transfers vehicle titles as a business) does the paperwork you can give the Vehicle ID and plate # to the insurance agency and you will be immediate covered, so you can drive your bike home. DO NOT DRIVE WITHOUT INSURANCE!
A foreign tourist can purchase a new or used motorcycle registered in Argentina, Chile and other South American countries, but legally and officially a foreign tourist cannot export, (cross the border) of either Argentina or Chile. I am currently working to have the law that restricts the travel of a foreign tourist riding his/her Argentine registered motorcycle reviewed and changed. You can help. Please see the last posts on my thread:
Buy new or used in Argentina and legally tour all of South America ( 1 2 3 ... Last Page) located and with a sticky, this regional forum.
As you will learn there is a way a foreign tourist can cross out of Argentina with his/her Argentine registered motorcycle, and that is to co-own the motorcycle with an Argentine or a permanent foreign resident of Argentina who has a DNI (National Identification Document) and lives in Argentina).
The Argentine or permanent foreign resident will have to accompany you to the border of Argentina, and "perhaps" secure a temporary export permit.
If you are buying used, below are the documents the seller must provide:
In our continuing effort to bring the very latest and most accurate information to you regarding a foreign tourist buying and then selling a motorcycle/auto in Argentina and legally crossing the Argentine border for the purpose of touring other south American countries, we owe a great debt to Mariano of Motocare.com. Mariano sells and rents new and used motorcycles from his showroom/shop Motocare
Here is the list of documents needed from the owner of a used motorcycle.
1. Título de propiedad original: (Title)
2. Cédula verde original: (Green card, registration)
3. Formulario 08 o Contrato de Transferencia, firmado por el vendedor y, si es que el titular figura como casado en el titulo, entonces tambien por el cónyuge. Esta/s firmas certificadas por el Registro de Motovehiculos (aquel donde esta el legajo de la moto) o escribano publico: (No traslation for this but owner will know...it is a form to be signed.)
4. Verificacion Policial: ( Police check up for possible theft charges)
5. Informe de Dominio: (To check that the seller can legally sell the bike )
6. Estado de Deuda de Patentes, o libre deuda de Patentes: (Taxes up to date)
8. Libre deuda de Infracciones del Tránsito: ( No tickets or stolen vehicle reports)
Do not leave a deposit "reserva" for the bike unless you have a physical copy of each of these documents in hand , or are absolutely convinced missing documents are available and will be provided.
You can have the owner sign an agreement to legally sell the bike to you within the next week or return your deposit. The deposit will be no more than $20.00 US dollars.
As I have indicated on other threads, a foreign tourist can legally buy and sell a new or used moto or auto in Argentina, but can be very risky.
We are doing our best to eliminate any risk involved.
Our goal is to mark the path for those foreign tourists who want to fly to Buenos Aires, buy a new or used moto or auto, register it legally, buy appropriate insurance, tour other South America countries and then return to Argentina to sell or store the moto or auto. And, to do this as legally and as economically as possible.
We are testing the system today and tomorrow. Please post questions, comments and personal experiences on this thread.
There is an excellent description of buying a used motorcycle in Chile posted by lachy and found in this regional forum under:
"Steps to Buying a Used Bike in Santiago Chile"
A very similar post regarding buying used in Chile is found on my thread and and posted originally by jolaglabek.
I will leave it to others to respond to you regarding other South American countries.
Hope this helps and might I use your screen name to help convince Argentine legislature to change the law restricting the travel of foreign tourists on their Argentine registered motorcycles?
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