The Egypt Index

[omar mansour]

Originally Posted by roro

I'm travelling with Land Rover since 1977 every year around Africa (including deep Sahara) and Middle east without getting stuck anywhere, so forget about Toyota, more expensive and eating more petrol (about this last point it's not a question of price but a question of autonomy).


RR.

Hi Roro ,how are you ?
so you are a good example for exception and being lucky ,hahahah
just kidding with you ,
but as you see Toyota is the best ,use it in the Egyptian Sahara since 1988 ,yes its pricey ,but that's why is best seller 4x4 for few years , and again easy to sort parts every where in Africa ,
good luck , and travel safe for all of us ,on land rovers ,|Toyotas ,even on tok toks and matatus

[roro]

And about the update about this road?
More interesting than the eternal controversy between Land and Toyo.
(but you have no reply about the amount of liters needed by the Japanese.... not very practical when you need a lot of a autonomy, isn't it?)
RR.

[Chris Scott]

Omar - best keep this useful thread on topic: the new road.

No more LR v Tojo chat here please, or those posts all get moved/deleted.

Ch

[roro]

Ok for stopping this chat right now!

RR.

[omar mansour]

Originally Posted by Chris Scott

Omar - best keep this useful thread on topic: the new road.

No more LR v Tojo chat here please, or those posts all get moved/deleted.

Ch

RESPECT ,ITS JUST A CHIT CHAT ,NOTHING MORE ,
CHEERS

[Habari]

The path of the new road is not yet clear to me, does anybody know?
What about Google Earth, can it be seen there?
Thanks!

[Chris Scott]

What about Google Earth, can it be seen there?

Some of it. Have a look at the links in this post earlier in this thread.

AFAIK it will go down the west side of Lake Nasser to Abu Simbel, short ferry over to the new town of Qustul on the east side, then down to Wadi Halfa. But no road visible on the Sudan side on Google, yet.

[Habari]

Originally Posted by Chris Scott

Some of it. Have a look at the links in this post earlier in this thread.

AFAIK it will go down the west side of Lake Nasser to Abu Simbel, short ferry over to the new town of Qustul on the east side, then down to Wadi Halfa. But no road visible on the Sudan side on Google, yet.

Thanks.
This clears things quite a bit even though it does not seem too rational to cross the Nile twice... But TIA...
The maps appear to be not very recent, at least judging from the areas I know.
Cheers

[itchyfeet38]

Sounds as those these guys have used the new road/border crossing...

Egyptian led convoy aims to travel to the southern tip of Africa

Of course if the expedition is being financed in part by the Egyptian government that's not so surprising...

[Habari]

That's the first actual info on the new border crossing, but where is Arkin?
Cannot find any info or coordinates.
One thing to verify is if the border will be open to foreigners: the raid is sponsored by the egyptian government so things may be very different.
Cheers

[omar mansour]

Originally Posted by Habari

That's the first actual info on the new border crossing, but where is Arkin?
Cannot find any info or coordinates.
One thing to verify is if the border will be open to foreigners: the raid is sponsored by the egyptian government so things may be very different.
Cheers

as im leaving in lees than 3 weeks im still trying to get permits to use the road ,so far seems the Egyptian will let me do it from the Egypt Side ,but they asked me how you will stamp your passport ,Carnet in the Sudanese side ? its not in our hands (the VIP person i contacted ) trying to contact Siag those who did used it few days ago to ask hem about that but no answer from them
pffffffffffffffff

i will do any thing to avoid wasting a week and sue the ferry ,

[Tom-Traveller]

Hi Omar

anything new on the road and customs ....

Thanks
Thomas & Andrea

[achim-in-jordan]

Officially, it is still January that the road will be opened. Whether it will be the first day of the year or rather the "beginning" of 2013 remains to be seen.

In any case, people who went to the border reported that the customs building is being built. And passing with the boat on Lake Nasser, the new ferries that will be crossing from Abu Simbel to Qustul could be seen (see below). So things are actually moving!

Greetings
Achim

[mandisha]

Hi,

1. Arkin - Abu simbel. also called the western lake nasser road is finished from the egyptian side but afaik the sudenese side is still work in progress.

2. Qostul - Wadi Halfa. The eastern Lake nasser Road finished from the egyptian side and awaiting to be finished from the sudanese side. This road is intended to opened for normal traffic soon.

3. Hederba Crossing. Is the crossing at the red sea in the south eastern edges of egypt. The road is finished from both sides, but due to the political dispute about the halayeb triangle in which this crossing is located, it is still closed and afaik will remain so.

4. Suhin Crossing. about 150km west of hederba crossing midst of the red sea mountains. Has a new road from the egyptian side staring from shalateen, but no roads from the sudanede side and the closest village will be 80km inside sudan and from there only dirt tracks to the closest road. Also Closed for travellers.

All Crossings are manned by military checkpoints, and all can and have been crossed before for VIP or with special permits. Hederba and suhin are used daily for trade and visits from the local people with special permits from the miliary intelligences tribal affairs office. Cars are allowed to cross from sudan into egypt until shalateen, if you are a local tribesmen. Arkin is also used for trade, goods switch cars,no cars crossing here.

hope any of these roads will be open soon.....

[achim-in-jordan]

Hello Mandisha,

Thanks for this rich information!

Concerning the Red Sea connection, I can confirm your info from what I heard in Port Sudan: Road is ready, but because of the Halayeb conflict, Egypt and Sudan don't agree on where to put the customs building.

Qustul - Wadi Halfa: Road is ready from both sides (saw pics), just waiting for the customs building to be completed.

Travellers will have to cross from Abu Simbel to Qustul by ferry in the future to travel between Aswan and Wadi Halfa on a land route.

On the Western side of the Nile, the road is finished until about 160 kms North of Dongola in Sudan and will probably eventually link Dongola to the Toshka development region in Egypt.

Greetings
Achim