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Price for Toyota Landcrouiser

Hi I will be travelling in Marocco and Mauretania from December till March. By the end of this time i will be probably short of money so i plan to sell my Toyota Landcrouiser 61 in Naukchot and continue too travel south(Mali , Senegal)Can anyone tell me how much I can get for my car in Naukchot?
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probably more than you paid for it!!
depends on condition etc obviously but TLC's have a premium price. Start at least double what you paid for it, maybe even trebble and haggle down from there. start at what you think is a ridiculous price, you can always come down, start too low and you can't go up.
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thanks a lot. Do u know what is the best and safe place 2 sale car in Naukchot.
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no, I've never sold one there, I have always gone further south. there are probably dealers who are safer. At least with a dealer you know where he hangs out, but it will drop the price. If you sell privately try and go with the guy to the bank to get the money out so you know it's not counterfeit. basically just be careful, same as at home, scams abound!!
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Thanks a lot once again . One more question , if i decide not 2 sale my car in Mauretania and go all the way south to Mali do I have any chance to sale it there? Do u think its a good idea?
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Don't know, but I am sure someone out there will!!
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You should get a good price - obviously depending on the condition.

Try heading to Auberge Menata in Noakchott - its a good spot to stay - and mention to the French Lady who runs it (Olivia) that you are interested in selling it - she has plenty of local contacts - its a popular spot for guys bringing vehicles down from Europe to sell - you will probably see a few on the way South.

If you take it to Mali and head into Bamako or any of the larger towns, you will probably be asked if you want to sell the TLC anyway - if not just ask around and get chatting to some of the bush taxi guys.

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Hi I will be travelling in Marocco and Mauretania from December till March. By the end of this time i will be probably short of money so i plan to sell my Toyota Landcrouiser 61 in Naukchot and continue too travel south(Mali , Senegal)Can anyone tell me how much I can get for my car in Naukchot?
Cheers Mariana

You need a stamp (was a red triangle some years ago) that cancel your car from the passport...
It's done by Central Douane of NKC.

If you sell it in NKC, it is better to combine the trip to Rosso with a Police man or a military one, within his car... it's safer to avoid hassles and the larger number of controls along the tamrac

Good luck!
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Hi Miriana,

If you are planning to visit Mali anyway I would suggest selling you HJ61 there. With the fuel prices in West Africa this wont cost you much extra. Mali has no formalities concerning car selling. So no hassle with stamps in passports. You only have to buy a local insurance +/- 40 euro.

To my knowledge Mali has offers the highest prices for a TLC HJ61 in West Africa. In Bamako prices range from 6000 to 8000 euro. Ad another 500 euro if you sell it in Mopti. Al depending on the state of the car of course. West African car buyers don't like cars with removed windows and rear seats so take these if you can. a nice car stereo with bling bling speakers will do wonders to Before you make the deal get clear if, how much and to whom you are paying commission. Between 2 and 5 % is normal in Mali.

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Thank u so much
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Hi Marianna

It's hard to say what the prices are anywhere. The easiest thing to do is to decide beforehand what you want for the car. Don't get fooled by thinking that you can get a better price somewhere else. If someone offers you the price you think is OK, thrn take it.

Another place to try in Nouakchott is Auberge Sahara, also run by a french lady called Kania. Try here and Olivia to get a sounding of how much the 4x4 is worth.

It's also better not to tell anyone that you are prepared to sell, the prices they then offer may be more realistic. Either way you will get a lot of advice beforehand about how, where and for how much to sell it.

This business is full of sharks so watch it. You will only find out afterwards what the best advice is/was.

You also said that you will sell the car when you are short of money. This is not really a good idea they will know this in advance if you are in need of cash and use this against you.

Be careful but enjoy.

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It's worth mentioning than (as in Europe) if in good condition HJ61s are much more sought after by desert tour operators (eg: in Agadez) than a regular old HJ60 - the crazily high prices mentioned by Dohan are not unusual.

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the paradox

Paradox
Due to all these exports (and the normal factors) the prices in europe rise as these cars are getting scarse and become mythical oldtimers. At the same time the prices in Africa (and South America) stay more or less the same (high!). Thus finding a nice one for a small price and making the most profit is getting more and more difficult, and it will take a while before the prices in Africa will rise more than they are used to pay in the past.
That's probably why you see more and more 80's finding their way 'cause their price is dropping in europe.
BTW same goes for the hilux, every old model is great export, but the prices are going through the roof here in europe.

Mariana:
I don't know how your experience is in buying a car from secondhandcardealers but remember you probably will selling it to a .... secondhandcardealer! (mostly with the 'aid' of a commisionair)
BTW If you don't sell it there you can always drive back and sell it in europe, cause prices are high here too.

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It’s a simple equation,

It’s a simple equation,

Here is the typical life story of a HJ60. They bugger around in Europe until the owner decides the repairs and taxes get too much. A local car dealer will by it and sells it to an export dealer near one of the main ports in Europe. There a African car dealer buys is and ships it to west Africa from there it is put on a boat witch travels up the Niger to the sub Sahara buyers. The new owner pays import tax. For the next 20 years the HJ60 gets to drive around tourists and smuggle cigarettes.

Example A typical hj61 in the north of Sweden cost 2000 euro. Transport and two car dealers later will set it in Rotterdam for 4000 euro. After shipping it the hj61 will be worth 4600 on the coast in west Africa. Transport to Sub Sahara will make it 5000. Add the import tax and the profit of the local dealer and the market price will be 6000 euro.

Al these steps cost euros the more steps you bypass the more is left 

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dear all, which one is in your opinion the more convinient place to sell an HJ 60 between Mali(bamako or Mopti/gao), Niger(Niamey or Agadez), or Chad(Ndjamena)?
I would like to make the deal this winter, looking for the best merket.
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