Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > Sahara Travel Forum

Sahara Travel Forum Topics specific to North Africa and the Sahara down to the 17th parallel (excludes Morocco)
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Desert Travels - Motorcycle Journeys in the Sahara and West Africa!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 30 Sep 2006
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Berlin
Posts: 2
New border crossings to Niger?

I refer to a news post from http://www.sahara-overland.com/news/index.htm:

"August 2 - New border crossing points between Algeria and Niger
Good news about access between Algeria and Niger. Formerly the only official crossing was via In Guezzam to Assamaka (Tam - Agadez, Route A12), a restriction imposed by Algeria; Niger did not really mind which way you left. Now it's seems once can officially come and go between Djanet and Chirfa (the balised Route A15 in the book) and even places like Chirfa, up the Oued Taffassasset past In Affelellah to Bordj El Haouas west of Djanet which now has an immigration point. (We vaguely paralleled this corridor on Desert Riders in 2003 and most agreeable it was too.)
And apparently one can even come up from Iferouane out of the Aïr to In Azaoua and head for Tam (meeting and reversing Route A14 at KM000). This is an old colonial route that has been closed or barely used for as long as I've known about it.
I must say it sounds a bit too good to be true - especially the last In Azaoua (a military checkpoint).
The reasons for these new crossings are the elimination or assimilation of rebel Tubu and Tuareg groups in the Djado plateau and the northern Aïr in the last couple of years. Confirmation shortly. If the situation stays as it is I for one hope to make use of these on my car and bike tours in late 2007/8."



Can someone confirm this?

I want to go from Djanet or next border checkpoint directly into Tenere avoiding In Guezzam. I did this in 2002 and had no problems at all. But with the new restrictions in Algeria one seems to be bound on the official transit routes. I would love to get rid of the mandatory guide in Djanet and pull out south. Any experience with that?

Thanks for your answers!

Paul
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 30 Sep 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 334
Hi Paul,

friends will try this route in about 3 weeks, everything is arranged: guide through Algeria and a Niger agency to escort them in Niger.

Yves
__________________
Yves
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 1 Oct 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: F
Posts: 620
Thanks Yves for this info , we'll be waiting almost one month to have a report about this trip ...
I've heard another info : it seems (see below ) that's it's again posssible to do the Ghat->Djanet piste .

RR.

http://www.sahariens.info/w-agora/vi...key=1159427077
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 2 Oct 2006
Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Oxford, U.K.
Posts: 591
Careful about leaving guide behind in Djanet. Someone tried to do this a year or so back and the Algerians went after them in the Tenere. They were eventually nailed for taking out archaeology, faced a time in jail and a huge fine. That's another story, but the point is the difficulties started when the guide was left behind in Djanet.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 2 Oct 2006
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Berlin
Posts: 2
This is what Tanezrouft Voyages says:

"Actuellement on ne peut pas confirmer que le passage par Djanet au Niger
soit possible. On attend une confirmation vers le 21. Octobre d'un group.
On comprend bien que la sorti par Djanet offre des avantages par rapport a
Ain Guezzam, mais on ne peut pas garentir cette possibilité."
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 15 Nov 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: F
Posts: 620
Djanet--> Niger

Hi

Somebody have news from groups who tried this routes in October or November (see below) ?

Which agencies (Algerian and/or Nigerian) are rliable for this trip ?
Since Lybian/Nigerian border is closed , I'm planning to travel from Djanet to Niger without crossing the border in In Guezzam .
Thanks for your replies .

RR.



"I want to go from Djanet or next border checkpoint directly into Tenere avoiding In Guezzam. I did this in 2002 and had no problems at all. But with the new restrictions in Algeria one seems to be bound on the official transit routes. I would love to get rid of the mandatory guide in Djanet and pull out south. Any experience with that?

Thanks for your answers!

Paul


Heinrich Barth
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Heinrich Barth
Send email to Heinrich Barth
Find all posts by Heinrich Barth
Add Heinrich Barth to Your Buddy List

#2 30th September 2006
Yves
Veteran Traveller Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 169

Hi Paul,

friends will try this route in about 3 weeks, everything is arranged: guide through Algeria and a Niger agency to escort them in Niger.

Yves
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 29 Dec 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 863
recently?

Yves, how did the group get on?
Any recent news about more direct Djanet-Agadez (ie avoiding Tam)?

Sam.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 29 Dec 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: F
Posts: 620
To Niger

As far as I know , the only way NOW to go to Niger avoiding Tam is to go from Djanet directly to In Guezzam .
I'm planning this route in February though I hope entering Niger via In Azoua ( or with a lot of luck via Djanet->Chirfa but ....)
RR.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 29 Dec 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 334
Hi Sam,
my friends were not allowed to exit at Djanet, despite very good connections.
They even were not allowed to drive from Djanet directely to Ain Guezzam, they had to drive via Tam.

All best, Yves
__________________
Yves
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 30 Dec 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 863
Thanks!

Yves,

Thanks for the update. Although disappointing, it's good to have first-hand (or almost) information.

Sam.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sudan border crossing info required Matt Roach Travellers' Advisories, Safety and Security on the Road 3 13 Oct 2010 09:35
Mexican border crossings to Guatemala near Palenque Sjoerd Bakker Route Planning 2 3 Jul 2009 15:27
Security in Niger roro Sahara Travel Forum 2 11 Jun 2004 22:47
Quick note on border crossings in Central America elcapitan South America 3 25 Nov 2001 05:39
Border Procedures from El Salvador to Costa Rica Steve Puig Trip Paperwork 0 4 May 2000 12:41

 
 
 

NEW! HU 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar is now available! Get your copy now for some terrific travel inspiration!

HUGE, 11.5 x 16.5 inches, beautifully printed in Germany on top quality stock! Photos are the winning images from over 600 entries in the 9th Annual HU Photo Contest!

Horizons Unlimited 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar.

"The calendar is magnificent!"

"I just wanted to say how much I'm loving the new, larger calendar!"

We share the profit with the winning photographers. YOU could be in the HU Calendar too - enter here!


HU DVD Autumn Special!

Take 40% off Road Heroes Part 1 until October 31 only!

Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries two-up on a Harley); Dr. Greg Frazier (5 times RTW); Tiffany Coates (RTW solo female); and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).

The first in an exciting new series, Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers."Inspiring and hilarious!"

"I loved watching this DVD!"

"Lots of amazing stories and even more amazing photographs, it's great fun and very inspirational."

"Wonderful entertainment!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'HEROES' on your order when you checkout.


Renedian Adventures


Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!


New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.


Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:39.