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Old 21 Nov 2006
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Question fuel stop NDB (border) to Nouakchott??

hi all,

seems to be some confussion (at least to me) over the existance of a fuel stop in Nouagmar which is - I think - in the middle of the road from NDB(border) to Nouakchott in Mauri.

A recent posting (crossed in december 06) mentioned no petrol (but diesel available on route) on the road.

Previous postings I have seen both here and in other forums confirm a man with a barrel and a hand pump that does petrol, in Nouagmar.

sounds like pot luck..
is it like "you may or may not get petrol on the way.."

in which case I need 450km range ?!

anyone done a the route recently??

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hi all,

seems to be some confussion (at least to me) over the existance of a fuel stop in Nouagmar which is - I think - in the middle of the road from NDB(border) to Nouakchott in Mauri.

A recent posting (crossed in december 06) mentioned no petrol (but diesel available on route) on the road.

Previous postings I have seen both here and in other forums confirm a man with a barrel and a hand pump that does petrol, in Nouagmar.

sounds like pot luck..
is it like "you may or may not get petrol on the way.."

in which case I need 450km range ?!

anyone done a the route recently??

cheers

g t
Hi,

If I'm not mistaken, Nouamgar is a very little village by the sea. Didn't see anyone selling fuel (petrol or diesel) there in 2003.
The (new) tar road doesnt go through Nouamgar. In 2005 (March) I dont remember seeing fuel available by the road between the border and Nouack. If I were you, I would carry enough fuel for the 450 kms range.
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Hi, most of the tiny fishing villages outside of the park (Noumghar southwards) have been given Japanese financed open fishing boats, with outboard motors.
I'm sure if you ask nicely, and with the exquisite modesty these people have, you could buy some petrol to get you to NKT (it might be 2 stroke mix, but it'll get you out of a spot)
The far East has put quite a bit of money into that road, which enables them to load fresh fish caught by villagers into huge freezer ships in NKT. A much better solution than pillaging the coasts with their own trawler ships.
As a result, each village is accessible by refrigerated lorry, not far off the main drag.
I believe Mohamed Ould Taya had a part in those negociations, so he can't have been all bad.

IMHO you'll have a better ride if you hang around NDB and chat up some travellers in 4x4, to get them to carry a jerrycan/your luggage for you. Then you can go with them through the Park, which has some beautiful coastline. Tell them you'll "scout" for soft spots for them, which gives you an excuse to rip all over the place having lots of fun.

Er, I presume you're on a bike because a 450km range would be easy in a car.

As you may have seen other posters do, you'll often get more help if you give more to the forum: timescales, vehicle, your experiences, etc.
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Luke,
good point..

so here is the story..

will be 3 bikes (a dommie a TT and me on a GS12) we may have another addition who is still trying to get his bike in one piece.

The Dommie has standard tank so need more than 10lt jerry to make the distance, the TT has a 20lt tank so with some extra fuel will prob. make it.

the GShas standard tank so I reckon I need to carry extra 20lt to make it

Never really had to consider fuel range in detail or had to carry extra fuel

hence my question of a fuel stop.

I am fairly flexible with plans so I can just jump on the ore train instead and head to Zouerate.

The trip will be in Dec. plan to be crossing into morocco on the 20th and riding south hopefully to NKT and back.

unfortunatelly the trip does not sound that exciting hence not dishing out details left right and center but since you ask ...

my experience not much.. been riding for years and some travelling in europe and a quick trip in morocco tracks on trail bikes.

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Hi ! As Luke nicely explains, you can find petrol in the little coast towns.

We found petrol in most places, both coast and interior, but sometimes we had to wait up to 3 days, which was not bad at all, and sometimes the expensive "petrol" did not smell as such but as a mix of diesel and petrol and who knows what else, however our old petrol landrover didn't notice that.
I'd recommend to carry some good additive for petrol, (or for diesel, if the case) it may help the engine.

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George,

you said 'seems to be some confussion (at least to me) over the existance of a fuel stop in Nouagmar which is - I think - in the middle of the road from NDB(border) to Nouakchott in Mauri.'

If you go by the new road (tar), then you don't go through Nouagmar. I found petrol at the boutiques by the check point about 400km from NKT and then about 100km from NKT.

If you go by the old road (sand) then you will indeed go through the park. if you go this way then hang around in NDB (camping Abba etc) and go with someone willing to carry your extra fuel.

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fuel station with food supplies/restaurant is here and has rooms now- some still in construction some finished.
There is also a new restaurant smack on the Maroc/Mauri frontier on the Maroc side
N22 03.290 W16 44.797 before GUERGUARAT

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[Just to clear any confusion]

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fuel station with food supplies/restaurant is here
N22 03.290 W16 44.797 before GUERGUARAT
bert333:
This station/restaurant/hotel is the last/first fuel point in Western Sahara on the Moroccan side of the border, thus between Dakhla (MR) and Nouadhibou (RIM).
Not between Nouadhibou (RIM) and Nouakchott (RIM)!
Good place tho to topup, rest and go to the border early next the morning.

[Just to clear any confusion]

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Bart....... which part of N22 03.290 W16 44.797 is causing confusion ...never mind, I

In addition, if you speak French, you're ahead! if not, remembering 'Essence marche noir ???' comes in handy as many people store petrol in 'bidons' or plastic jerry cans. It helps if you know the real taste of petrol...
(it burns- try it! but don't swallow ) because most water the fuel down....
I agree with Armadillo: IMHO an octane booster is always a small item but well worth its weight.

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I just did this route a couple days back and will confirm that there are some boutiques along the way that sell essence and gasoil...they usually are marked with yellow bidons along the side of the road. BUT sometimes they don't actually have any gas...I checked along the way for information sakes and only 1 out of 4 boutiques I asked had essence on hand. They all had gasoil on hand though.
The issue of quality is always there but be prepared as the price is 600Ourguiya per liter and upwards...
I personally rode with enough small bidons to make the 480km trip...small 5litre bidons are IMHO better because theyre easier to handle and tie down. You can get them for free at gas stations(specifically the TOTAL station) or parts stores around town.
Also, be prepared for the windy conditions and your fuel possibly blowing all ofver the place while pouring into your tank...use your empty mineral water bottle as a funnel by cutting the bottom off if you have to.
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