Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > Sahara Travel Forum

Sahara Travel Forum Topics specific to North Africa and the Sahara down to the 17th parallel (excludes Morocco)
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Desert Travels - Motorcycle Journeys in the Sahara and West Africa!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 6 Jul 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 67
Ferry to Oran and travel along coast of northern Algeria possible without a guide?

I would like to take a ferry from Spain to Oran in northern Algeria, then travel by motorbike across northern Algeria to Tunisia.
Is this possible without a guide?
As an American, can I get a visa in Morocco or Spain for Algeria? Or must I send my passport home via FedEx to have a visa agency in the USA do it for me?

I have seen this type of question asked before and nobody ever knows for sure what the answer is. Hopefully someone will know, as the Algerian embassy in the USA is useless and told me a guide is not required anywhere in Algeria.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 6 Jul 2007
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 3,117
... as the Algerian embassy in the USA is useless and told me a guide is not required anywhere in Algeria.

If that's what they think (not correct) and they issue you a visa with none of the strings we have here in Europe (agency invites, etc) then go for it. You may need to advance book one night in a hotel and show them the proof. Once in Oran ride out confidently and hope for the best!

Ch
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 6 Jul 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
... as the Algerian embassy in the USA is useless and told me a guide is not required anywhere in Algeria.

If that's what they think (not correct) and they issue you a visa with none of the strings we have here in Europe (agency invites, etc) then go for it. You may need to advance book one night in a hotel and show them the proof. Once in Oran ride out confidently and hope for the best!

Ch
You are right I should have done this but now am in Morocco.
Do I need an agency invite just to take the northern highway? I have a hard believing that all the passenger vehicles coming on the ferry from Spain have guides waiting for them at the terminal.
Does anyone know for sure about the north?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 6 Jul 2007
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 3,117
Do I need an agency invite just to take the northern highway?
No but you may need proof of a hotel booking to get the visa.

I have a hard believing that all the passenger vehicles coming on the ferry from Spain have guides waiting for them at the terminal.

We 99.94% of them will be Algies going home so obviously not. Maybe you are not aware that north Algeria is not really a regular holiday destination like Maroc and Tuni - great country though it is.

"Where was our guide?" was the first question they asked in Algiers port last year (http://www.sahara-overland.com/Sfiles/tessalit.htm - first time I've been that way for many years). They were quite taken aback at the sight of a tourist in a 4WD (in the 1980s it was normal). As we were heading down to the desert (where guides are required) we had a guy waiting outside. If I were staying in the north I would have argued that one was not required.
Less busy Oran port is a better choice to enter.

Coming out of Algiers airport as I've done a few times recently - no one asks questions and you can go as far as you can get away with - north would be no prob I imagine. Riding a bike expect plenty of (friendly and even concerned) checkpoint action.

Note that NE Alg - towards the Tuni border - is a relatively 'hot' area.
See News: May 14 http://www.sahara-overland.com/news

good luck

Ch
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 6 Jul 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
Do I need an agency invite just to take the northern highway?
No but you may need proof of a hotel booking to get the visa.

I have a hard believing that all the passenger vehicles coming on the ferry from Spain have guides waiting for them at the terminal.

We 99.94% of them will be Algies going home so obviously not. Maybe you are not aware that north Algeria is not really a regular holiday destination like Maroc and Tuni - great country though it is.

"Where was our guide?" was the first question they asked in Algiers port last year (Sahara Overland ~ the book and online resource - first time I've been that way for many years). They were quite taken aback at the sight of a tourist in a 4WD (in the 1980s it was normal). As we were heading down to the desert (where guides are required) we had a guy waiting outside. If I were staying in the north I would have argued that one was not required.
Less busy Oran port is a better choice to enter.

Coming out of Algiers airport as I've done a few times recently - no one asks questions and you can go as far as you can get away with - north would be no prob I imagine. Riding a bike expect plenty of (friendly and even concerned) checkpoint action.

Note that NE Alg - towards the Tuni border - is a relatively 'hot' area.
See News: May 14 Sahara Overland ~ the book and online resource

good luck

Ch
Thanks, great information as always Chris. Does anyone know though if I can get my visa issue in Casablanca as a US citizen? And since they claim to require an airline reservation, what do I do about that? Has anyone done this without a tour agency helping and without an airline reservation?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 7 Jul 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 249
They ask for an airline ticket because there are no direct road or rail connections from morocco to Algeria (I THINK!!), so they take it you want to fly. Try asking at the embassy directly and explaining your problem. But they may insist you get it with an airline reservation or in the last country if you say you intend going overland by another route i.e. from France or Niger.

There used to be that thing going a few years ago where you needed an airline reservation to get a Mauri visa. You got a ticket from a travel agency, got the visa and then the travel agency cancelled the ticket, charging you between 10 and 25% of the ticket price. Not every travel agency did this, one of the few was opposite the central train station in Rabat.

The embassy is probably in Rabat, though there may be a consulate in Casa. If you think it's going to be difficult it may be worth trying the full monty at the start, i.e. shirt, tie, neat trousers, wash, shave, and maybe an introductory letter from your embassy. A lot of people laugh at this but I lived in Africa for years and dropped the "scruffy murphy" appearance when I had anything official to do, seemed to get things done a lot faster like this.

But remember there is no land route from Morocco to Algeria ( afaik), so flying may be your only option.

Kevin
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 8 Jul 2007
roamingyak.org's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Portugal
Posts: 1,062
As your treading on a lightly worn path, it's worth saying that it's 'best and sensible to obtain a visa before spending money on a non refundable ticket' or something.

This way you may end up with a visa without a ticket, or at least a good indication of the likelyhood of obtaining one.

Dress well, and learn a few lines in Arabic - not the usual tourist ones will help I would imagine.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 4 Feb 2009
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Cirencester, UK
Posts: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by monkii View Post
I would like to take a ferry from Spain to Oran in northern Algeria, then travel by motorbike across northern Algeria to Tunisia.
Is this possible without a guide?
No, you have to have a guide and you have to have a visa in advance. You need to contact a local agent for this who send you visa support once you have given them passport details.
As an American, can I get a visa in Morocco or Spain for Algeria? Or must I send my passport home via FedEx to have a visa agency in the USA do it for me?
Moroccan/Algerian border is firmly closed. No way you can get across legally. You should be able to get a visa in any Algerian embassy

I have seen this type of question asked before and nobody ever knows for sure what the answer is. Hopefully someone will know, as the Algerian embassy in the USA is useless and told me a guide is not required anywhere in Algeria.
Remember you will not get into Libya as an American citizen and any Israeli visa is no no.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Realities for citizens of USA RE: travel in Algeria, Tunisia wabulabantu Sahara Travel Forum 3 13 Apr 2005 04:22

 
 
 

NEW! HU 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar is now available! Get your copy now for some terrific travel inspiration!

HUGE, 11.5 x 16.5 inches, beautifully printed in Germany on top quality stock! Photos are the winning images from over 600 entries in the 9th Annual HU Photo Contest!

Horizons Unlimited 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar.

"The calendar is magnificent!"

"I just wanted to say how much I'm loving the new, larger calendar!"

We share the profit with the winning photographers. YOU could be in the HU Calendar too - enter here!


HU DVD Autumn Special!

Take 40% off Road Heroes Part 1 until October 31 only!

Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries two-up on a Harley); Dr. Greg Frazier (5 times RTW); Tiffany Coates (RTW solo female); and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).

The first in an exciting new series, Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers."Inspiring and hilarious!"

"I loved watching this DVD!"

"Lots of amazing stories and even more amazing photographs, it's great fun and very inspirational."

"Wonderful entertainment!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'HEROES' on your order when you checkout.


Renedian Adventures


Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!


New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.


Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:24.