Hi moggy, (Andy) many thanks for message,interesting, Its such a big thing that many people raise money for this cause, but always worth while, I have postponed my trip until Sept 2006 onwards, for various reasons, but route is now decided which is France, Spain, Morocco, over Atlas, down through morocco to Mauritania, into mali and Timbukto, and back, thanks for any offers, I am looking for companions who will do the whole trip there and back, mostly for team and safety reasons, but woul not be opposed to anyone who might like totag along some of the way, Dave