Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > North Africa
North Africa Topics specific to North Africa and the Sahara down to the 17th parallel (excludes Morocco)
Photo by Ellen Delis, Lagunas Ojos del Campo, Antofalla, Catamarca

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Ellen Delis,
Lagunas Ojos del Campo,
Antofalla, Catamarca



Trans Sahara Routes.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 23 Dec 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kraków
Posts: 131
Mauretania X/XI '11

Hi all,

here are some photos and short films from the trip to Mauretania organised by me and Bartosz this year.
GLOBERIDER-GALERIE

Summary/ reflections:
-2 cars + 1 bike (8 adults + 1 child)
-Mauretania is definitely worth visiting, its vast expanse of untouched desert strikes imagination
-the piste from Bon Lanuar area to Choum along the railway (Olaf's Maroco map works well here) is a good place for a novice to gain some basic sand-driving experience and do some silly
mistakes (like burning clutch disc) without grave consesequences
-Passe d'Amogjar in some places might be difficult to pass with a vehicle wider than ordinary 4x4
-driving along the beach from Nauakchott to Nouamghar was very nice
-Chinguetti itself & Parc National du Banc d'Arguin were somehow disapointing
-we were unaware that camping on the piste or driving at night in the desert in Mori is forbidden nowadays
(you are obliged to leave a fiche in every small village and sleep by the gandarmerie's post)-
we thought it was rather strange and constraining regulation unless we read that two blokes that we had met along the way (that is Stephen Gown on XT600E and Jacobus Ruke in HJ61) were kidnapped in Tombuctou.
-you do not realize the danger (with regard to terrorism) unless it affects people you know...

Hope it ends well

Tomek
__________________
www.globerider.pl
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 23 Dec 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: NFA
Posts: 222
Hey,
Great pics Tomek and thanks for the useful info!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 23 Dec 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Dorset, UK
Posts: 339
Loved pictures No.164 and 165 in particular

Thanks for the post Tomek.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 23 Dec 2011
Chris Scott's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,810
Quote:
-we were unaware that camping on the piste or driving at night in the desert in Mori is forbidden nowadays
(you are obliged to leave a fiche in every small village and sleep by the gandarmerie's post)-
Not heard that before but not surprised to learn wild camping is no longer allowed after all that's gone on, even before Timbuktu. It would indeed restrict you on some of the longer pistes.

Depending on how strictly they enforce it, one could say that the freedom to roam in the Mori desert has finally succumbed, as with the desert areas of every other Saharan country except Mk and Sudan, only in Mori's case, without resorting to escorts.

Hopefully it's a temporary measure, but from what you read, the threat is far from over.

Ch
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 23 Dec 2011
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: U.K.
Posts: 12
I spent a good 15 days in Mauritania on the trip which I've just returned from, and camped wild on many nights in Mauritania.

Usually we would tell the Gendarmerie that we were carrying on riding through the dark for a bit to an auberge and then we'd nip off piste/road a few k's until we thought we wouldn't be spotted (I always do this anyway when camping wild).

A couple of times the next morning the first Gendarmerie we encountered would ask where we slept as their friends at the last post had said we were coming. When we answered with wild camping they told us it was dangerous and we should find them next time.

There were 2 times I was physically stopped riding in the dark though. Once at the very big post with a big arch on the N3 between Aleg and Kiffa. And once right near the (Gogui) Mali border - this actually turned into an amazing evening which I wouldn't have changed for the world!

So in my recent experience wild camping and driving in the dark is still possible in Mauritania (this was in November), it is depending on which Gendarme you meet though...

Eddie.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 23 Dec 2011
Chris Scott's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,810
Thanks for the update Eddie - now we know.

At he very least, it's good to know they're looking out for travellers

Ch
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 25 Dec 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kraków
Posts: 131
Wild camping

Quote:
Originally Posted by EddieWouldGo View Post
So in my recent experience wild camping and driving in the dark is still possible in Mauritania (this was in November), it is depending on which Gendarme you meet though...

Eddie.
I agree that if you hide yourself then camping in Mori is easily doable (it is a big country with low population density). Nevertheless if you stick to the main pistes and don't hide, the gandarmerie will politely but firmly force you to sleep at the nearest post.

Regards

Tomek

P.s. If I travel alone I always do like you do. Futhermore if you master hiding yourself you might not need a guide or even a visa to travel across f.ex. Southern Algeria
__________________
www.globerider.pl
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 26 Dec 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,460
Yes they do look out for you in Mauri. Some places, the gendarmes would exchange phone numbers, calling later to know that we were installed somewhere safe. Like in Selibaby, where there was high alert when we passed through since the president was there the same night.
I remember one traveler ignored the advice given by the gendarmes and went into the bush, which triggered a helicopter search - not something you would want.
They have in Mauri a kind of lodging I haven't seen elsewhere - roadside mattresses where you can sleep for free if you eat the goat meat they have on display. You select the pieces you want and they prepare it for you with onion and bread.
Too hardcore for many white people perhaps, but mixing with the locals I feel much safer than staying at some toubab motel.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 26 Dec 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia
Posts: 104
Hi, Tomek. Nice to see you again. In meantime I eMail with Bartosz. We missed one day in Chinguetti. I realized all my planes in Mauri and Morocco. Now planing complete off-road bike circle in Mauri for next year :-). If any is interested I published on my disk server whole tour in 549 pictures. Just follow Link ---> MotorCycle Travel ---> Picture with Flags ---> Slidshow

All the best in 2012, Tomaz
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 26 Dec 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: from Portugal, living in Germany
Posts: 119
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomek View Post
Hi all,

-the piste from Bon Lanuar area to Choum along the railway (Olaf's Maroco map works well here) is a good place for a novice to gain some basic sand-driving experience

Hi Tomek and Bartosz,

Great trip, great pictures

Can you please tell me which pictures belong to the piste Bon Lanuar to Choum along the railway?

I rode from Western Sahara to Senegal via Mauritania this February mainly through tarmac and have been planning to ride this R2 piste for some time.

Your pictures will give me a rough idea of the terrain, I'm riding an Africa Twin.

BR,
Luis Cabrita
__________________
Luis Cabrita, Honda XRV 750 Africa Twin '97 & Honda CBR 600 F4 '99
https://www.flickr.com/photos/148874658@N08/albums
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 26 Dec 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kraków
Posts: 131
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaBRita View Post

Can you please tell me which pictures belong to the piste Bon Lanuar to Choum along the railway?
Hi Luis,
22-77. If you can, take a lighter bike for this piste.

Regards
Tomek
__________________
www.globerider.pl
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 26 Dec 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kraków
Posts: 131
Mauri

Quote:
Now planing complete off-road bike circle in Mauri for next year :-).
Hi Tomaz,
it's nice to hear that you are ok.
Your plans are very interesting:-) I thought about second half of November and December. We keep in touch.

Happy New Year,
Tomek

p.s. I will look at your photos as soon as i have faster internet connection.
__________________
www.globerider.pl
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 26 Dec 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: from Portugal, living in Germany
Posts: 119
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomek View Post
Hi Luis,
22-77. If you can, take a lighter bike for this piste.

Regards
Tomek
Thank you for the feedback! My other two bikes are lighter but they are roads bikes so the option will be ride together with friends in order to have someone to push me

Have you ridden MS6? How do you (or someone else reading this) compare this R2 with MS6 in terms of required off-road riding skills?

BR,
Luis CaBRita
__________________
Luis Cabrita, Honda XRV 750 Africa Twin '97 & Honda CBR 600 F4 '99
https://www.flickr.com/photos/148874658@N08/albums
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 27 Dec 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia
Posts: 104
Ok, Tomek. Sure, we will stay in touch. I will inform you about our November 2012 Mauritania progress. Best wishes also in 2012.
@Luis: Does we meet us in Laayoune this October? I was riding behind Carlos from Tan Tan to Tarfaya -> Laayoune.

Tomaz

Last edited by Bertrand; 27 Dec 2011 at 10:44.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 28 Dec 2011
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 19
Does anyone know if petrol (Essence) is available in Tidjikja?
Persistence.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 22:34.