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Hi P&Corn

I think you are planning a very long trip.... you will find very differents wheathers, I dont know how many experience you have, all is possible, but you must to know that you are planning an autenthic rally, ja ja. If you hate sand, forget Bolivia and a big part of the dessert ! Going alone ? If you want to go to Ushuaia,you must go in January/earlier february.... is practically impossible going in other time. You will find WIND (not wind, WIND, ja ja) and after february very probably snow. And you cannot begin your travel there, probably the most southest point were you can send your moto is Valparaiso, in Chile, 3000 kms from Ushuaia... Any way, all depends what you like, what you can, and the time what you have... all the south of Argentina and Chile in the two sides of the Andes are very very nice.... the pacific coast of Chile from Santiago is not nice... is better Santiago - Mendoza (Argentina) and then go to the north by the Argentine side to Salta/Jujuy (argentine states ) , then across the Andes ( by road o grave, as you like ) -incredible nice- to the north of Chile, then Peru / Machu Picchu (YOU MUST GO TO MP ) .... but the east of Peru is better in Sep/October... other months before you find TOO MUCH cold or after too much RAIN ( realy dangerous ) . From there to Brasil ? Easy : across the Matto Grosso , JA JA ! ( It´s possible, I did it, but .... MY GOD !!! The way could be Cusco-Titicaca Lake-La Paz -Santa Cruz de la Sierra- Puerto Suarez-Corumba- and other 2000 kms to the south of Brasil , over the Atlantic sea. From there to Rio, mav be other 1000 kms, this time with good roads, beachs and caipirinha. At this time, it seems like an adventures book, don´t you know ? But I insist : depends of your experience and time....
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maybe you find also interessting info on our blog.
www.kisstheride.blogspot.com
there is a translationbutton on the right

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thank you everyone.

docrafita - thanks for those specific suggestions.
johan&ils - i'll be reading through your blog very soon...

getting very excited! 5 months to wait...
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is practically impossible going in other time. Y and after february very probably snow. A
That's not true.
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Officially Starting My South America Ride Report Here on the HUBB

i changed the (#1) entry that started this thread to reflect the new trip that has evolved. set up WWW.PORKANDCORN.COM to point to a ride report over at ADVrider, but it will be identical to this one.
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Bike Shipping from Portland to Buenos Aires

i started another thread a while back on this topic, so here's a link over to that discussion for anyone who is interested.

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Peru is to die for!

Pork,

So much to say such little time!

We have jsut arrived on the Caribbean coast haven riden up from Ushuaia. We started on In BA aswell and have covered about 31,000km in 8 months of riding.

Our blog is pretty comprehensive and is worth reading like you im a fan of good photos, these always help tell the story! A couple of things;

Totally agree with post number 2, Nazca is a little over rated, but its worth going just to be able to ride the road between Nazca and Cuzco (machu picchu). Its tarmac but its two days of mind bending brilliance!

Someone mentioned the routh north from San Pedro De Atacama into Bolivia. We bottled it, but found an equally good route in Chile north/east from Calama. It follows the border with Bolivia to the crossing town of Ollague. This was stunning, a hard compacted gravel road and (very) basic accommodation saw us safely from Calama to Uyuni (500km with no fuel between!) Its covered in our blog here

Northern Argentina is MEGA! Go to Iruya!

But the true highlight is northern Peru, dont swing south of the Cordillera Blanca range to Huaraz. Stay east up towards San Luis and Yanama then cross the range towards Yungay! ! ! ! Epic, story and photos here! I just wish I did it twice!

Oh and the road between Celendine and Chachapoyas is BRILLIANT!!!!!!!

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chris,

thank you so much for taking the time to write and for your suggestions. i'll be devouring your blog in the coming month as i prepare for my trip.

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Update Trip Schedule

let me know if you have any suggestions or changes or see that i am missing some good roads or locations. here's my approximate schedule for the first 2 months (aquí está mi horario aproximado para las primeras 2 meses):

part - santiago, chile to cordoba, argentina (6 weeks):
jan 06-10: santiago, chile
jan 10: santiago to playa renaca
jan 10-13: playa renaca/vina del mar
jan 14-15: valparaiso
jan 15: valparaiso to mendoza, argentina
jan 16: mendoza to laboulaye
jan 17: laboulaye to buenos aires
jan 17-23: buenos aires
jan 24: (ferry) buenos aires to montevideo, uruguay
jan 24-25: montevideo
jan 25-27: punta del este
jan 28: punta del este to chuy, brazil
jan 29: chuy to porto alegre
jan 29-31: porto alegre
feb 01: porto alegre to sao jose dos ausentes
feb 02: sao jose dos ausentes to florianopolis
feb 02-12: florianopolis/balneario camburio (carnival!)
feb 13: florianopolis to passo fundo
feb 14: passo fundo to uruguaiana
feb 15: uruguaiana to parana/santa fe, argentina
feb 16: parana/santa fe to cordoba
feb 17-18: cordoba, argentina

part 2 - cordoba, argentina to santa cruz, bolivia (2 weeks):
feb 19: cordoba to aimogasta, argentina
feb 20: aimogasta to paso san francisco
feb 21: paso san francisco to bahía inglesa, chile
feb 22-23: bahía inglesa, chile
feb 24: bahía inglesa, chile to pan de azuacar national park
feb 25: pan de azuacar national park to antofagasta
feb 26: antofagasta, chile to san pedro de atacama
feb 26-27: san pedro de atacama
feb 28: san pedro de atacamo to…...

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Personally, I'm in the middle of doing US to/from Argentina for the third time in 4 years and I really like northern Argentina: Tucuman, Salta, Jujuy, and the roads west of those cities. I then like to go over the pass to Calama, but this is VERY high, over 5,000 meters, but the road is good and there is little traffic.
Since it is the rainy season in Bolivia, I wouldn't recommend trying to do the road of death. I'm skipping it the country altogether, even though I lived there, as I want to follow, and have a chance to work on a team doing the Dakar.
In December, I rode a great fairly new road from Riobamba toward Guayaquil. Lots of twisties, little traffic, and no police, but I'm an ex-road racer who loves canyon carving.
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but it will cost you an arm and a leg to stay there..
Well think Huacachima was one of the nicest places of Peru and i even stayed there for free Machu Picchu was very cheap too:

Motorcycle experience riding through Peru - Machu Picchu - part 3

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thanks!

motomon: i think you are referring to chile 27 (paso de jama) that runs west out of los flamencos national park? on google, i see 2 others, and i'd like to explore those other roads as they run into some interesting terrain, but i'd like to know what those 2 other passes are like.

1. chile B-357 - looks like a dirt road
2. chile 23 - runs south from san pedro de atacama and turns into argentina 51 and running along the jujuy/salta border and into san antonio de los cobras

are these two also passable?
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I went from Tucuman, to Salta around the west side, then up to Jujuy. From there I went west on a good, but sparcely traveled road up over 5,000+ meters, where my carbureted bike ran poorly and it got quite cold.
The officials did customs and immigration for at Paso de Jama, Argentina, but I remember having to go all the way to San Pedro de Atacama, before there was any officials to do immigration and customs to enter Chile. There were busloads of people doing the same thing there.
The next major town was Calama in Chile.
In reverse, this looks like what tht Dakar Rally wil do.
I think you are right in that I went through on 27 in Chile.
My plan is to go to Calama where I start enquiring about the border crossing and do the same in San Pedro de Atacama. I'll put on heavier clothes as I froze last time, but I now have a FI bike, so I don't expect that this engine will run as bad as before. I also don't remember an excess of grifos, so I may carry
more extra gas addition to the extra liter that I always carry.

I don't see the B357 road that you mention.
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thanks motomon. i packed some cold weather gear into my bike, sounds like it was a good decision. the high mountain passes sound very interesting to me.

paso de jama/chile 27 looks like the best road. the other look interesting. if you get up close in google maps, you'll see the B357 about 15km north of chile 23, and about 80km south of 27. probably just a dirt track.

i've got a 1.75gal rotopax tank, so i'll make sure it's full.

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