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  #17  
Old 26 Nov 2013
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Hi Mark,

No problems and your welcome. It was my fault I automatically assumed the Pakistani town Pishin and not the Iranian town of Pishin. You will be pleased to know that the Pakistani government is currently working to open this border as border crossing on the Request of Iran. How long the process will take is unknown but one hopes it will be fairly quick. There will be further 3 other points to cross from Iran to Pakistan. I think two will be trade borders and two will be tourist and trade ( Taftan being one and Pishin being the other). As its early stages its hard to tell. A news article below is a good read if you like.

Mark don't feel guilty about the escort. Pakistan has many problems but one thing its grateful for is tourism. Escorts can be a pain the back side but its the governments way of saying we are doing something. Unsure if your a biker or 4wheeler but if you pay a small fee (arranged upfront) they police may agree to allow a undercover armed go with you, the benefit of that is that they share your bike as pillion or take a seat in your car. This atleast doesn't slow you down.
Hi Blessing,
thanks again, you are a mine of good info. Opening up the southern border crossing will be fantastic news.
I'm a biker and really looking forward to blasting along the Makran. I had intended on riding the Makran in 2010 but I was suffering from a stomach bug I picked up in India and was fatigued from then on, so the trip turned into a physical survival exercise. So I really am looking forward to a more relaxed return trip.
Cheers,
Mark.
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How can i go from Rawalpindi,Pakistan to Makkah,Saudia

Thanks brother. I want to ask some more questions.
1.The man who goes from karachi, Pakistan reaches to Makkah during Hajj reaches in three months but how can i reach in 5 days.
2. I have bike.Can i on to bike?
3.Can you tell me the estimated cost of all expences becuause if there are too much expenses why should i not travel by air.
4.What type of visa will i require for entering in different countries.
5.The man who goes from karachi does not had any vechile.Can i go without vechile.what will be the best for me either vechile or by public transport.
6. when i will be passing through other countries how can i contact to home because my Pakistani sim will not work in other country.
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How can i go from Rawalpindi,Pakistan to Makkah,Saudia

Thanks brother. I want to ask some more questions.
1.The man who goes from karachi, Pakistan reaches to Makkah during Hajj reaches in three months but how can i reach in 5 days.
2. I have bike.Can i on to bike?
3.Can you tell me the estimated cost of all expences becuause if there are too much expenses why should i not travel by air.
4.What type of visa will i require for entering in different countries.
5.The man who goes from karachi does not had any vechile.Can i go without vechile.what will be the best for me either vechile or by public transport.
6. when i will be passing through other countries how can i contact to home because my Pakistani sim will not work in other country.
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How can i go Makkah from Rawalpindi

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Hi,
I want to go Makkah from rawalpindi by road so plz guide me and tell me shortest way of going.
Thanks brother. I want to ask some more questions.
1.The man who goes from karachi, Pakistan reaches to Makkah during Hajj reaches in three months but how can i reach in 5 days.
2. I have bike.Can i on to bike?
3.Can you tell me the estimated cost of all expences becuause if there are too much expenses why should i not travel by air.
4.What type of visa will i require for entering in different countries.
5.The man who goes from karachi does not had any vechile.Can i go without vechile.what will be the best for me either vechile or by public transport.
6. when i will be passing through other countries how can i contact to home because my Pakistani sim will not work in other country.
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How can i go from Rawalpindi,Pakistan to Makkah,Saudia

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Hi,

Its not as easy as just selecting the shortest route. I will explain a little and you will see what I mean. This needs allot of planning.

Firstly its much more expensive to go by car then air, so you will need to have some savings for this, You have to factor in fuel, hotels, food and mobile phone plan. If your ok with these things then the process is as follows. The mobile to get in touch with family or incase you need it in a emergency. International plans are expsensive and paying for a local sim maybe a better option.

You will need a Carnet which is document which will allow you to enter countries without paying custom at the border. Im not sure if any motoring company issues a carnet in Pakistan and you may find it difficult to obtain from other countries using a Pakistani registered vehicle. The best thing is to find out if there is a agency in Pakistan that issues the Carnet document or if any international company would do it for you. Search google. Without this document you would need far to much money to make the trip worthwhile as custom fees are extorniate.

The carnet document itself costs and you also have to leave a deposit to get one. Its basically document that ensures other countries you wont sell or leave the car in their country without paying the relevant custom. There is tons of information about this on the web just Google "Carnet Document".

You will need a visa for Iran, Dubai, and Saudi Arabia. All this will cost money.

Depending what vehicle you intend to use you will also need to carry a couple of spare tyres/wheels and some emergency fuel.

Once you have all this sorted you need to decide on the route to take, The shortest route may not always be the best route.

The shortest route will take you through Peshawar, Dera Ismail Khan and then onto Quetta. Currently travelling through this region is not the safest due to terrorism and highway kidnappings and robbery etc. But if you have Pakistani registered vehicle and your a Pakistani national then you may just blend in and be okay but its all about how comfortable you are.

I would personally go to Lahore, Multan, Sukkur and then up to Quetta via Sibi. This is a longer router but much safer. You can also get Police escort should you feel the need but that may cost you. I know for some westerners its been done free and for others they had to pay.

The shortest of the two is via Peshawar and whatever route you take initially you will then have go from Quetta to Taftan. This is long route and again is subject to terrorism and you may need to spilt this in over two days stopping a city of Dhalbandin and travelling only during day time.

Taftan is the border town to Iran. From here you will enter into Iran and you will need your Carnet ( unless you can afford custom) and Iranian tourist or transit visa. The Iran side border is called Meer Jawe. Once you have crossed into Iran you would then travel to Iran city of Zahedan, you may need to stop the night depending on what time you cross the border and how long it takes. Zahedan is only about a hour away from Meer Jawe. From Zahedan you will have to travel to Bam, possibly stop the night there again depending on your timings and whether your happy to travel at night as well. From Bam you need to go the port city of Bandar Abbas. Here you will catch ferry with your car (details are already on this thread) once you have cross into Dubai which takes about 9 hours via ferry, they will inspect your vehicle documents and visa. You will then need to drive from Dubai to the Saudi city of Riyadh, you would cross via Abu Dhabi and enter the border at Al Bat'ha. Here they will again check your Carnet and Saudi Visa. Once you reach Riyadh, you may need to stop over the night depending what time you get there, the next day just drive from Riyadh to Mecca.

You will need to plan journey times, rest stops, how often to fuel up, where to stay the night, what to eat and how much to budget it. I would estimate it will take you about 5 days. This is rough estimation without any planning by me. could be longer or shorter. The fuel will cost quite abit but its quite cheaper in iran, Dubai and Saudi compared to Pakistan as they are oil rich countries. Also you may want to spend more time in these stops and in iran an Dubai is a awesome place to see and eat etc.
I hope that helps.


If you have the money and time I say you should do it! Its a once in life time experience.
Hi,
I want to go Makkah from rawalpindi by road so plz guide me and tell me shortest way of going.

Thanks brother. I want to ask some more questions.
1.The man who goes from karachi, Pakistan reaches to Makkah during Hajj reaches in three months but how can i reach in 5 days.
2. I have bike.Can i on to bike?
3.Can you tell me the estimated cost of all expences becuause if there are too much expenses why should i not travel by air.
4.What type of visa will i require for entering in different countries.
5.The man who goes from karachi does not had any vechile.Can i go without vechile.what will be the best for me either vechile or by public transport.
6. when i will be passing through other countries how can i contact to home because my Pakistani sim will not work in other country.
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Hi,
I want to go Makkah from rawalpindi by road so plz guide me and tell me shortest way of going.

Thanks brother. I want to ask some more questions.
1.The man who goes from karachi, Pakistan reaches to Makkah during Hajj reaches in three months but how can i reach in 5 days.

That is the travelling time using your car, driving day and night, only stopping to have some sleep overnight. I am talking about solid 5-7 hour drive with few breaks in between.



2. I have bike.Can i on to bike?

Do you mean pedal cycle? You can do it by pedal cycle, but it will take you good 5-6 months depnding on how fit you are and how you plan it out.

3.Can you tell me the estimated cost of all expences becuause if there are too much expenses why should i not travel by air.

In all honesty, Its much much much cheaper to go via air, You only would go by Road, if you wanted to go through those countries or if you liked driving etc otherwise you would go by air. The expensive would be in the region of about £3000-4000 pounds. Thats including fuel, all your paperwork for your car and visa's, hotels, food etc.

4.What type of visa will i require for entering in different countries.

You will need a Hajj Visa before you start off your journey as they dont grant them on arrival. You will need a tourist or transit visa for Iran and UAE.


5.The man who goes from karachi does not had any vechile.Can i go without vechile.what will be the best for me either vechile or by public transport.

You can do this without a vehicle but then I dont see point in going without a vehicle as you can take either a ferry from Karachi or go by air. YOu can also go by public transport. I would take bus to Pakistan Iran border, then cross in to Iran, From Iran I would take bus to Bandar Abbass, where I would a take ferry to DUbai or Abu Dhabi, From their I would take bus to Riyadh and then bus to Makkah or Medina.

6. when i will be passing through other countries how can i contact to home because my Pakistani sim will not work in other country.[/QUOTE]

YOu will need to buy local sims or buy a satalite phone which is expsenive too. Its cheaper to buy local sims or use public calling offices.
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Hi,

Sorry only just seen the posts so hence rpely is too late.
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Travel tp Pakistan by Road from mecca

Hi;

i am planning to travel to Pakistan by road from mecca on my cycle, any one can help me in getting the information regarding visa arrangements, possible best route and other formalities

as well as if some one can direct me to some companies which can help in this

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aziz ur rehman
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travel to Kabba

I am an Indian Hindu and my believe in One God .
Do I allow to go Kabba .I plan to travel by road.Between 1931 to 1938 one man Mr. Ruchi Ram went to Kaba by road and Royal family helped him.He was founder of Jamyete Hejbullah ( the organization of noble people,in Hindi its call Arya Samaj).It is different from current Shia'a Hejbullah of Lebnan.
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Pakistan to Saudia by road on bike

Hi,
I want to go on my bike from Pakistan to Saudia Arabia any bady can help me ?
Is it possible or not?
If possible then how?
Plzzzz tell me all details..:
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I want to go on my bike from Pakistan to Saudia Arabia any bady can help me ?
Is it possible or not?
If possible then how?
Plzzzz tell me all details..:
Hi Aziz,

Motorbike or pedal cycle?

It is possible but not a easy feat considering the tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

You will have to ride/cycle to Iran via the land border, then take a ferry to Dubai and then ride all the way to Saudi Arabia.
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