Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Planning, Trip > Route Planning

Route Planning Where to go, when, what are the interesting places to see
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 9 Mar 2009
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: israel
Posts: 9
Help! Route from Bucarest to Odessa?

What might be the shortest route? Is there a way south of Moldavia? what is the border crossing from Romania to the Ukraine?
Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 9 Mar 2009
usl usl is offline
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Turkey
Posts: 338
Last year (2008) i entered Moldavia from Husi (romania) ... I was told there is not a direct entrance from romania to Ukraina from black sea coast ...

hope this helps
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 9 Mar 2009
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Almeria, Andalucia
Posts: 185
Hello dorongs

usl's right: there's no direct crossing from Romania to Ukraine: the delta of the Danube is too bloomin' wet [and politically sensitive..]

Having been told that morning "by the head of the Romanian coastguard" that the following was impossible, this is the route I took in November:

[Bucharest to Galaţi -- straightforward; choice of northern or southern highway]

From Galaţi - head for the Giurgiulesti crossing in to Moldova. With an EU passport/ bike I was waved through Romanian customs.

Moldova took a little longer - an hour and a half to cover 1.5miles of pothole and cowpat from the Romanian frontier to the Ukrainian border post. There was a €10 bill for "road tax and insurance" -- have small bills to pay for that -- and an incredibly friendly, French-speaking Moldovan border guard at Giurgiulesti.

Entry to Ukraine was also slow but straightforward. There's at least one kiosk selling cheap insurance for Ukraine and green card cover for the rest of Europe if you need it.

Ride on to Izmail, find the only hotel in town and fall in love with the receptionist. I did.

Oh hang on, you wanted to go on to Odessa! It's another 250km or so -- that was a full day in November -- you can avoid passing through Moldova again [on the main E road.. no idea what those border posts are like] by riding the terrible road through Tatarbunary and then heading off right/ south towards Bilgorod-Dnistrovskiy. It's a smaller road but in much better condition. You swing past that town to the coast and then head north in to Odessa. Which is a verrrrrrry interesting place.

More words and pictures of potholes:
Beside the Seaside
and
Beside the Seaside
__________________
www.BesideTheSeaside.eu
---I'm back. Now what?---
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11 Mar 2009
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: israel
Posts: 9
More Informatioin

Thank for replies. Does it mean that I need a visa to Moldavia just for the crossing from Rmania to the Ukraine ??
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11 Mar 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 1,003
I posted a different thread with this same question yesterday...Mike, thanks for your response, but parts of it confused me...

1) after entering ukraine why did you go to ismail instead going straight toward tatarbunary (via Bolhrad?)? On my map it looks like it is considerably out of the way?

2) once you get to bilgorod-dnistrovsky, is there a ferry or something to cross that inlet or whatever it is? (the only map at my disposal is not very detailed...).

Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12 Mar 2009
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: israel
Posts: 9
To Odessa

Hi, I will be in Odessa on a 1200GS as well, around 7th of June. From there to Moscow. It seems from the map there is a bridge over the stretch of water (Google maps) towards Odessa. After all the reading here about the crossing from Romania to Ukraine I think I will get to Odessa through Sochi/Rus after crossing the Black see from Trabzon/Tur. To much unknown and problems crossing Moldavia and Transdeniester or making a very long detour through Chernivcy/Ukr

BTW, where can I get a green card (insurance) for Europe and Russia?

Thanks

Doron
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12 Mar 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 1,003
Quote:
Originally Posted by dorongs View Post
I think I will get to Odessa through Sochi/Rus after crossing the Black see from Trabzon/Tur.
Don't know how you plan to get to Odessa from Sochi, but I highly recommend crossing from Russia into Ukraine at the Kerch peninsula and then ride along the south shore of the crimea--spectacular road and scenery--mountains and sea, with numerous little resort towns. very very nice.

from my experience, you can get russian insurance at most border posts, not sure if it is different if you take the ferry from turkey.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 13 Mar 2009
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Almeria, Andalucia
Posts: 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by motoreiter View Post
after entering ukraine why did you go to ismail instead going straight toward tatarbunary (via Bolhrad?)? On my map it looks like it is considerably out of the way?
The Izmail road is the one you want. It's a relatively good road and it doesn't zigzag back into Moldova [I think it's safe to assume any border crossing will take a while.. if it's open! Incidentally, I got so much conflicting info from people even five miles away from border posts.. locals don't cross the borders if they can possibly help it. There's a peculiar lack of interest in their immediate neighbours.. but that's another story.]

Quote:
Originally Posted by motoreiter View Post
once you get to bilgorod-dnistrovsky, is there a ferry or something to cross that inlet?
There's a bridge -- you ride alongside and just below the railway line. Quite nifty. All clearly signposted. There's a few hotels/ campsites down there but I would recommend heading on in to Odessa.

Quote:
Originally Posted by motoreiter View Post
Would like to ride from Tulcea (Danube Delta) to Odessa, more or less along the Black Sea.. is there some way (ferry, etc.) to cross into Ukraine closer to the Danube Delta? [EDIT: I'll be on an R1200GS, so need something bigger than a rowboat!]
-- from another thread.
It's frustrating - Ukraine is a mile or so away but you're right, there are no roads. And no ferries. The gun-waving racist Ceauşescu apologist I met the night before crossing the border[s] did suggest getting me smuggled over on a fishing boat. He also mentioned a fee of $600. And that he'd never heard of anybody doing it.. I wonder why?!

As i wrote of my crossing.. in Beside the Seaside .. "I was through, into Ukraine and reached the village of Orlivka, a mile across the Danube from Isaccea [the Romanian village I'd started from], after no more than five and three-quarter hours and 77 miles. [Average speed.. I'm obsessed.. 13.391304 mph]"


Quote:
Originally Posted by dorongs View Post
where can I get a green card (insurance) for Europe and Russia?
There's a kiosk on the Ukraine side of the Ukraine-Moldova border post at Giurgiulesti. Nice bloke. Smokes roll-ups. Can't add up to save his life -- so I hope his calculator is still working. He'll sell you a green card for what seemed to be a good price. I don't think the green card covers Russia, mind. They prefer to get you to buy their own insurance. And don't get me started on their attitude to visas...
__________________
www.BesideTheSeaside.eu
---I'm back. Now what?---
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 13 Mar 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 1,003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike View Post
The Izmail road is the one you want. It's a relatively good road and it doesn't zigzag back into Moldova
Mike, thanks much for the great info! I guess you're saying that after leaving Romania, you can enter Ukraine along the Izmail road after a mile and a half in Moldova? From my maps (not very detailed), it looks like you've got to stay in Moldova for some distance, and I don't even see a road to Ismail! I've got more detailed maps on Ukraine on the way, so I guess it will all be clear once I have those...Google maps of this area is almost blank...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 14 Mar 2009
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Almeria, Andalucia
Posts: 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by motoreiter View Post
.. after leaving Romania, you can enter Ukraine along the Izmail road after a mile and a half in Moldova?
That's exactly right. The northern-ish road east of the Moldova-Ukraine border crossing darts back in to Moldova which I guess slows you down: the Izmail road is rutted and, err, interesting, but much more straightforward.

Quote:
Originally Posted by motoreiter View Post
I've got more detailed maps on Ukraine on the way, so I guess it will all be clear once I have those...Google maps of this area is almost blank...
Don't forget the place you're most likely to find maps of Ukraine is.. Ukraine. GoogleMap scared the bejeebus out of my Pa.. he couldn't understand why I'd entered a country with absolutely no roads!

It's an anachronism, this route. You can pretty much see from the Romanian border to the Ukranian one. Build a road 200 metrres closer to the coast and you'd avoid Moldova altogether. And you'd think Ukraine and Romania would benefit from a common border post, not least so that commercial vehicles could cross without punitive taxes and long delays from Moldova. Why hasn't that happened? Take yr pick from local politics, national politics, international politics, corruption, gangsterism or poverty. Probably. Still, you get a pretty Moldovan stamp in yr passport.

--Mike
__________________
www.BesideTheSeaside.eu
---I'm back. Now what?---
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ferry from Odessa to Istanbul - any experiences? buebo Europe 4 21 Oct 2008 22:59
Carnet UK to SA (East Route) - Should I add alternate route? ghenk Trip Paperwork 5 21 Feb 2008 20:54
Best route through Baja? Best route through Copper Canyon? TexasArranger Route Planning 6 31 Oct 2007 06:30
Silk Route - Any difficulties on route? WRONGwayround! Route Planning 9 13 Jun 2007 22:53
Ferry Odessa - Istanbul ? ghorian Europe 4 22 Jan 2005 01:59

 
 
 

NEW! HU 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar is now available! Get your copy now for some terrific travel inspiration!

HUGE, 11.5 x 16.5 inches, beautifully printed in Germany on top quality stock! Photos are the winning images from over 600 entries in the 9th Annual HU Photo Contest!

Horizons Unlimited 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar.

"The calendar is magnificent!"

"I just wanted to say how much I'm loving the new, larger calendar!"

We share the profit with the winning photographers. YOU could be in the HU Calendar too - enter here!

Next HU Eventscalendar

See all events

 

Latvia to Australia, an inspirational 5 month journey full of unexpected adventures!

HU DVD Autumn Special!

Take 40% off Road Heroes Part 1 until October 31 only!

Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries two-up on a Harley); Dr. Greg Frazier (5 times RTW); Tiffany Coates (RTW solo female); and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).

The first in an exciting new series, Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers."Inspiring and hilarious!"

"I loved watching this DVD!"

"Lots of amazing stories and even more amazing photographs, it's great fun and very inspirational."

"Wonderful entertainment!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'HEROES' on your order when you checkout.

 

Scottoiler automatic chain oilers. The most important accessory for your next motorcycle adventure!

Renedian Adventures

Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!


New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.


Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 13:41.