Cost of RTW rtip
 

Hi,

Not sure if this really fits into this category or not...

I'm 28, single and bored!!! I've watched the Mondo Enduro DVD and read the book countless times and have reached the point where I feel I've just got to get on and do it.

I'm thinking of following the Mondo Enduro route so would be looking at 40k miles and away from home for approx 1 year. How much do some of you more experienced travellers think I'd need to complete this kind of trip? I'll be camping whenever I can and generally looking to keep things as cheap as possible.

Thanks!
Steve

As far as costs go, there are too many variables to offer a simple answer. Not many people keep track or report back on how much an around the world trip costs. It all depends on so many things. Your main expenses are food, lodging, gas, repairs, visas, and shipping costs. These vary greatly depending on the countries you visit, your social skills and networking abilities to find low or no cost accommodation, the type of bike you choose and how fuel efficient it is, how much you like alcoholic beverages, your tolerance for low cost eating strategies, etc. etc.

If you are new to this I would suggest taking some shorter trips to see if you can keep your costs down. Traveling on a tight budget is a fun challenge.


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As far as traveling companions, one method is to just head out and meet people in low cost hostels or down the road that are traveling in the same direction. Depending on your social skills, it is far easier to meet like minded motorcycle traveling companions out on the road heading your way than finding someone at home. The advantage with this method is that if your travel plans diverge, no problem finding someone else. Whether it is a nice lady who wants to ride on the back your bike, or a fellow motorcyclist to ride along with for a while, there are plenty of people out on the budget travel circuit.

Hopefully you will be a world traveler soon!

Best luck,
John Downs

Thanks John, that's really helpful. I've done a few 2 week euro trips but never more than a "holiday"

So far I've got approx 10k saved and I can rent my house out so that will take care of itself while I'm gone. I think the issue is more about me adjusting my state of mind to be prepared to have absolutely no idea what's happening next week/month etc!! And not trying to plan every last detail.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with overplanning and dreaming about an upcoming adventure. It is an obsession that most on this board hold near and dear. Of course plans change once you hit the road, but so what? Dreaming about upcoming adventures is half the fun.

10K pounds is enough money to head out and see a lot. You may not make it all the way around the world. But who cares. You sound like a young adventurous sort. There is never a better time to hit the road than when you have a good bike, some money, the desire and the time. Your options will narrow as you enter your middle years with career and family.

I say get out and see what you can now while you have the opportunity and the desire. When money runs low, you can head back to the UK and earn more to continue on. Or find work along the way. Many have done it before you.

If you knew what the future holds, what would the fun be!

Cheers,
John Downs

Right with ya
 

Steve, in a very similar situation to yourself my mates ain't into bikes etc and would would love to come along but probably couldn't do for a couple of years; cash/decent bike etc. :scooter:

Hey framkay, nice to hear there are other people in the same situation as me! I'm not sure when I'll be going. Whereabouts in the UK do you live?

Network, network, network!
 

Like the others said: It all depends on your social skills. If you do things right, every one you meet in this RTW group will lend you all their contacts around the world.

Take a year of preparations and enjoy it! Really, it's half the fun! During that time make the contacts and network. As far as costs, that depends on you. A 650cc will suck 50% more fuel.

If you REALLY want an adventure where you are "one with the folks and the land you are passing thru, do it on a 250cc and take only a few tools, two changes of clothes and the gear on your back! Don't camp. Don't cook. Meet people, stay in people's homes or little hostels, eat with people and/or on the street. If you stay away from big cities, you will save $$, people will be more friendly and honest. Most people's of the world will joyfully host you at no cost just because that is what they do in their culture (tho they may accept a gift).

DANGER!! This will mean that you REALLY experience the cultures.. which means you will end up eating things you never dreamed of and maybe have a few daughters attempted to be pawned off on you! I just cannot understand riders who carry their whole anticeptic culture with them and then say that they have traveled these countries! Yes, they have "moved thru them", but that is all!

Cheers! Toby :mchappy::mchappy::mchappy:

10k pounds may get you round the world but I'd budget double that for 12 months on the road.

I stay in Larbert, Central Scotland. What about yourself?

Mix it up
 

Mix it up. Camp, accept an offer for a couch stay in a motel. If you get in the groove of doing one thing it's great for a while but then can become the aspect of the trip that drives you crazy.

Also don't get sucked in by what others have say is the "real experience" and how they do their trips. Everybody is different.

Its going to be a blast no matter how you do it ! :thumbup1:

I'd say 10k is probably enough - just try and avoid hotels like the plague, and spend as little as possible on the bike (without getting a complete lemon, obviously!)

My next big trip is for 4 years and I will have about 40k once I've sold my house - the tricky bit is to keep reminding yourself that you have to live within very meagre means when you have a healthy balance at the start - no hotels!!

As for not knowing what will happen at the end of the day - thats the best bit!

Hi,

As for africa i can say its easy to calculate: The Visa will costs about $100 per country (Ägypt including arabic numberplates more then 300 euro...malawi, namibia and southafrica free).

Petrol/diesel will be round 1 Euro per Liter (0,30 in Sudan and 1,60 in Mauretania) so just calculate the usage of your vehicle per day depending on how fast you travel.

Food is dead cheap so no need to calculate.

Transafrika - Riding on a motorbike through africa part 1

A rtw trip will be more expensive because of shiping and flights.

Travel save, Tobi

I'm in ipswich, suffolk, probably couldn't be much further away!!

And thanks to everyone else for sharing their thoughts with me. I need to make a few decisions really, maybe something like anchorage to tierra del fuego would be a more sensible trip to start with, could always do more further down the line...

Great idea for a thread (whether or not this question has been asked before). I've been entertaining the very same idea for many years now, and am seriously considering it at the moment for a possible departure date some time end of spring/begining of summer next year. Gotta to get a lot of things lined up first though, so it's still just a very tentative maybe right now.

I appreciate all the info, advice, and opinions that others have posted so far and will keep an eye on this thread.

Now you're talking! That is a great trip. One that is doable with 10k pounds. I have traveled the northern half of that adventure so far. And it was excellent. Plus, as many of your fellow countrymen have done, you can fly to the states and buy a good travel bike very reasonably for the same cost as shipping a bike over and back from the UK.

I like your thinking. You'll have fun no matter what. If you make it to the north central US there is a free place to stay and a hot meal at my place. There are many others that will offer the same.

Who says you have to travel around the world east to west. This trip would put you half way round. Next trip from lands end South Africa to Nordcap will complete a circumnavigation the wrong way round! I like your creative thinking. East/West is for folks who like changing time zones and shipping their bikes across vast oceans.

Best luck!
John Downs

When are you planning on leaving sjbuckle83?

I'm not 100% sure to be honest, could be march ish next year or maybe later than that if I think i need to save more cash! Are you thinking of doing a trip?

I would love to do a Mondo style trip on a light weight trail bike DRZ400 or something, on a small ish budget. I have a Strom 1000 at the moment and love it but its a bit thirsty.. I get away when I can Just done the Pyrenees and off to Morocco in May..

I would like to do a big trip but would seriously need to get some money together to keep the family going whilst away..

Keep in mind, that your costs will probably vary depending on the area. Generally Europe, North America and Australia are among the most expensive, especially if you´re not camping and cooking your own food in those areas.

And on a RTW-tour, the costs of transporting your vehicle across the oceans or some other areas & getting flight tickets for yourself will be substantial, too. Freight costs aren´t fixed either, they depend on a million things, but luckily you should be able to get some rough idea about them on this website.

on a budget i'd recomend £40 per day. There are some very recent and very detailed trip cost charts, graphs and spreadsheets based on a car but noting based for a bike that i've seen.

My budget based on a car (two up) is £65 and this seems to be middle of the road. Considering you are on a bike and fuel costs are much less and there's only one of you i'd say £40 (or less) is possible. I'd go with £15 K if it were me. That way you can enjoy yourself and not have to worry every single day about money.

You could spend your entire trip trying to do it cheap rather than enjoying the trip ! £30 a day sounds a bit low to me.

Well by some random twist of fate (long story!) I've now got 2 mates who want to come and we've made plans to depart early in 2013! Plenty of time to save more cash and think about which bike, which route etc etc

Big thanks to everyone for their replies

Companions....
 

Amen to that brother! We've gotta get bikes first! and get Wibb organized! :clap:

A couple of suggestions, firstly all take the same bike, common spares, similar comfortable cruising speeds, full range, off road ability etc, etc. Also if you have not done anything like this before go off somewhere together for a couple of weeks to see how you get on, it is not like going on holiday together as things can get stressful even in your own country and this might highlight any serious clashes in personality that do not show up under normal conditions.

Hell yeah! Re bikes I've taking a bit of a liking to an xt600, we need to chat about it. Re getting wibbs organised... I reckon that'll be harder than the trip!!!!

Thanks for that mark. I've been away with each of the lads on separate occasions, has a great time both times but not done anything just the three of us.....

Thanks for that mark. I've been away with each of the lads on separate occasions, has a great time both times but not done anything just the three of us.....

it depends where you go, camping keeps costs down and is pretty safe to do in most places and the good news is when a country is not that safe to camp in normally cheap dorm room can be found for under $5.00

To put it in prespective, we struggled to keep under £80 a day between 2 of us in europe, this included 2 tanks of fuel a day.

We where easily keeping under £50.00 a day in Morocco and we where staying in hotels, converted forts and eating in half decent places. and in Iran we where living on less than £25.00 a day.

£10,000 is a good start, if you can get £500 a month form your house then that would be enough, the most expensive thing is fuel, so if you travel slower its costs less, sitting in a hostel your paying $2 a day for drinking 50 cent coffe's and chilling out until you get you next rent payment is not the worst way to live!!

Dont over think it mate, just do it!!

exciting times SJ! You are lucky you have a source of income whilst away. I'm nearly 28 and a long way off mortgages.

I'm near Newmarket so not far. Look forward to hearing about your planning.

I'm just at the stage of planning my dates. Aiming to do New Zealand to London, Oct 2011. Eek.

Hi me again (Etherelda), had to set up new account, as email gone mad.

I actually mean i'm off Oct 2012, or else i've got a lot of planning to do to leave today!

Thanks for that mate, should get roughly £500pm from the house but still have a mortgage so not a huge amount left over to be honest. I'm looking a funding the trip from savings and am aiming to build on the £10k over the next year or so. In the mean time I should probably think about selling my Fireblade as its probably not the most suitable bike for getting across Mongolia!!

Sounds great Fern! So what route would that be? There's a lot of sea between New Zealand and the UK!!

Been there mate, get it sold, if its a bit older - or even if its not consider seeling it in parts, i did that to my GSXR K2 track bike and what was an £1800 track bike raised £4000 out of it as i sold it for parts, thats after the postage and giving a Mechanic £250 to come to my house take it to bits and label all the bits for me.

Its amazing where you can raise cash, i miss my blade:( But once out of europe i think you should be able to live on £200 - £250 a week. Good luck!!

It's an 2002 blade, probably won't be selling it until later next year, still love riding it and need something to get around on in the mean time (we're departing early 2013).

You're right about it being amazing where you can raise cash... these past few weeks I have been wandering around my house looking things with the only thought being "I wonder how much I can get for that on ebay?!"

Yep we ebayed things like Tv's and stuff sold the whole lot not problems, the big surprise was all the junk, we had lots of old mobiles, BT phones we colleced over the years, phone chargers, old clothes, DVD's Cd's and that kind of stuff, we did a carboot sale and raised just under £1000!! Find a good carboot and get stuck in, we posted pictures up of the trip with big signs say everything must go, also we put prices on lots of stuff but made it clear we where open to good offers, then at the end of the day just tried to sell everything we had, we went with a van full (we even sold the clothes holders) and came back with a small box!!

I would suggest buying the bike you want to do the trip on asap, for 2 reasons, 1 you get to change you mind if u hate it, and 2 you will get to know your bike better from a mechanical point of view. I still understand fireblades much better than my KTM. But if u are good with bikes then it might not be right for u, but i wish i had bought the KTM the year before!!

Hey Pal,

I'm in exactly the same boat as you...only 31yrs not 28. I'm writing this with 4days notice left at work...then thats it! Early next year i'm heading south across africa to kenya, and either carrying on down to cape town or turning back. Cant wait! Planning to do it on a tight budget however...probably some camping and cheap hotels/hostels on the way. At the moment am looking to ride to greece then cross to egypt. Bring it on....!
:mchappy:
Les

Sounds great Les! You're a few steps ahead in having handed in your notice at work but I'm not too far behind! Camping/cheap hotels is the way forward! Good luck

Thanks for that buddy, there are some definite advantages to getting the bike sooner rather than layter.... May have to give that some thought.

To give you some rough data for where I've been. I've been keeping tabs on everything I spend while travelling, I've been away 5 months now and covered about 12000km through Australia, Singapore, Malaysia, and Thailand. I started off with AU$30k to travel with over 2 years, but I may have to shorten it to 1 year.

So far my biggest expenses have been food and accommodation at roughly $2000 each (this is all in AU$'s). Fuel is around $900, but I'm not moving every day, more like every 2-3 days I'll move less than 200km. I've been more into photography on this trip so that pattern of movement suits me, YMMV.

All of that I budgeted for and that's been fine, but it was the things I forgot to budget for that have thrown me off. Things like medication and medical expenses, replacing clothes, new tyres in Australia (why the hell are they so expensive!), phone costs, ferries, taxis. That has been an extra $2500 over that period.

Shipments are expensive, but once off costs. But in Singapore they hit me up for an extra $200 in insurance because they only issue it monthly now, little things like that I couldn't plan for.

Before I departed I blew a lot of money on dental work and vaccines and travel insurance. I had it in mind when I was trying to hit my savings target, but I never expected it to cost $5k!

So poor planning in summary :)

I have other money i had set aside for when I finish travelling for rent/food while finding a job and I may have to dip in to that.

Quote from Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook
 

"To cross Africa budget of US $7200 (at early 2005 exchange rates) plus the cost of your bike. Asia is much cheaper, you could probably ride from Europe to India and back for around $5400. To cross the length of the Americas costs at least as much as Africa (especially if you fly to fly your bike over from Europe), and a genuine RTW trip is going to set you back around $18,000, mostly in fuel and freighting your bike from one continent to the next. Many have achieved the above for less, some a lot more, but these estimates account for at least some of the unplanned expenses which most trips encounter." - Adventure Motorcycling Handbook. Chris Scott. 2005.

Seems that lots of what folks have said here is much more than Chris thinks. What do you think?

The figures above estimate a one-year RTW trip at $50 per day. I think there's a big difference between 2005 prices, including fuel, transport, food and lodging, and 2011 prices. Wonder what the new edition will say.

Considering we've had very little inflation (and closer to deflation in a lot of countries) since 2005, I really don't understand where you're coming from, mate!

I don't need to argue. Fuel, lodging, transport and food are all quite a bit more expensive where I live than they were 6 years ago. I also have the advantage of having spent much of the past three years on a bike in the Americas, Europe, Africa and a bit of Asia, and I seldom met riders doing it on as little as $50/day, although it's certainly possible.

You know what they say about opinions.

Mark

Ah friend, your tone saddens me. Trust, I want no argument. This thread is built of opinions. Hell, the HUBB is almost all opinions - and these opinions have deep value. I value yours - so much so that I'd like to learn from your experience: Where do you live? I would love to look up the stats and compare them with much of the world to understand where you're coming from!

Edit: I see now, Bellingham WA! I will look it up to learn what you mean!

Your original post stated that information on this thread indicated that costs may be higher than Chris scotts book.
You then asked for opinions and Markharf gave his. You clearly didn't like his opinion which is strange given he just backed up what you were surmising. What were you hoping to hear?

Your quoting from a book published 6 years ago and no doubt researched a year or two before that so looking at prices up to 8 years ago. If Markharf has experience on the road that this is not the case then I'm guessing he's closer to the mark than your dated quote.

2011: Six months UK-Cape Town cost me £10,000 with the carnet, flights, fuel and a fair few beers. Staying mostly camp sites and hostels. I could of done it for £7000 if I ate rice, tinned fish and slept rough more often.

2008: Seven months in South America cost me about £7000 with shipping and flights etc and a fair few Bbeers etc. Again, camping and cheap hotels. Probably could of done that for £5000 if I lived really basically.

I've thought about a RTW like you, thinking 12 months.. I've always come up with a budget of about £20,000 with a couple of credit cards in reserve.. doh

For me, If I'm going away for a long time and doing an amazing thing, I'm going to bloody enjoy it. I'll have a Beer if I want one and buy a steak dinner if I need cheering up. If I like somewhere I'll stay longer and kick back. I'll pay for it later :innocent:


Obviously, if you ride a lot and and don't hang around then you can do it A LOT cheaper and A LOT faster but you really need to ask yourself if you want to just tick something off your bucket list or you really want to travel, experience where you are and really make the most of what may be a 'once in a lifetime' thing.

I've ridden with plenty of people who just can't get 'there' fast enough. Where ever 'There' may be.. Many race because they are short on time and/or money. Try not to be one of those people.

Every time I've rushed through a country I've ALWAYS regretted it.

If you only listen to one thing I say, please let it be "DON'T RUSH"..... Save your pennies and make it last.

Ted

It's not that I didn't like what his opinion. It wasn't a like or dislike thing, I just know the world economy pretty well and given we haven't had inflation, was surprised to hear it and wanted to learn about his particular experiences! Now I have, and have looked a bit into Washington State's consumer price index, gas prices, et al! It's been a great learning experience.

I was just bummed that folks are so rough around the edges when I wanted to learn. I realize I've made people mad, and I shouldn't have participated in this forum without knowing what I'd get into!

Wonderful advice. Thanks Ted!

Mate I'm not mad. It just seemed odd that somebody would post a comment, ask for feedback and then when the feedback comes to support what you are actually surmising you make a comment like that.

In Australia and in particular Melbourne over the last 6-8 years we have seen the cost of food and utilities, housing affordability, Insurance premiums etc increase significantly.

Some of this was due to very local factors such as floods, Hurricanes, drought, Australian dollar fluctuations, our mining boom etc etc etc.
I cant speak for the rest of the world because I'm not an expert in global economics and don't have a RTW trip under my belt to make a comment.

However anybody living here who travels will tell you Australia is a far more expensive country to live in or visit than 6-8 years ago.

Good luck with your research.

Hi mate i know you mean well but PLEASE don't travel for a year based on a 6 year old book, Fuel alone is double. I know you mean well but the theory of doing the trip and actually doing it a far apart. Touring Ted has it spot on, we are 2up and therfore its costing me a little more i expect all in about 30k but i would not look to travel on less then 20k with a 5k emergency fund for tyres, unplanned stops or needing to get out of somewhere.

Fuel is killer now, most countries is £1 or more a litre. YOu have to understand that Asia doesn't give to shit about the west's economy in fact india is booming, even guied books written 2 years ago are often out dated with somethings costing double. This said we ate last night in a great little place in Nepal, we had a full plate of Momo's, some beef chowmein, popdom's and fried soya beans a fanta and a large water and the bill came in at 280 rupes (£2.50) so its still cheap if you look around.

There are lots of people out there who travel or are traveling, listen to them as they advice is excellent, please be cautious about seperating people who have traveled and people who have read alot about traveling. I mean no disprepect but before i left i was in a bit of a pannick recieving so much advice some of it seems to have come from couch tourers this included an email out of the blue from someone i had never met telling me the KTM would never make it, that is not the sort of crap you need to hear when you have sold your entire life and made a commitment to travel the world!!

Bottom line is pack your stuff, get on your bike and get all the money you can raise, be it 10k or 100k at some stage you will run out, travel how you are happiest then you can just fly back with the bike in a create if u need to!!! It does not need to be any more difficult than that, all the rest of the stuff you can figure out as you go along!

Great site
 

Hey Steve,

Check this page, all the statistics you need:

Round the world motorcycle tour - Statistics

Good luck and go for it.

Goes to show what can be done and for how little, impressive stuff.

What would be interesting is to get someone like that to repeat the trip and see the difference, again looking at it fuel would be nearly double.

Thanks for all the posts guys. I think the above is basically what its all about!!

I shall hopefully have at least £20k saved by the time we set off (that's after the cost of buying and preparing the bike). Hopefully that will get me everywhere I want to go!

Thanks Touring Ted - we do not plan to rush anywhere!!!

starting my research... just what I'm looking for thanks for sharing

MMMmmmm it is worth noting the amount of nights in other people's homes aka probably free thereby saving a very large chunk of money .

When you going then?

I'm in the same boat but selling my house. Leaving 28th July if all goes to plan. 28yrs as well. Feck it :)

Here's my route so far. It's based on needing no Carnet, which is a pisser as I'd have loved to do Aus/New Zealand but can't have everything. Looking to extend into South America and around then back up.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid= 206428310598675386573.0004b8292c6f44e7f35d7

I'll be on a diesel Enfield doing 160mpg and 60mph unless on a hill. Going to keep it as cheap as possible without unnecessary suffering :innocent:.

There are lots of people out there who travel or are traveling, listen to them as they advice is excellent, please be cautious about seperating people who have traveled and people who have read alot about traveling. I mean no disprepect but before i left i was in a bit of a pannick recieving so much advice some of it seems to have come from couch tourers this included an email out of the blue from someone i had never met telling me the KTM would never make it, that is not the sort of crap you need to hear when you have sold your entire life and made a commitment to travel the world!!

Bottom line is pack your stuff, get on your bike and get all the money you can raise, be it 10k or 100k at some stage you will run out, travel how you are happiest then you can just fly back with the bike in a create if u need to!!! It does not need to be any more difficult than that, all the rest of the stuff you can figure out as you go along![/QUOTE]

Rixxy

I think you hit the nail on the head with your first paragraph, far to many experts out there who have watched the Long Way Round and suddenly become an expert on Motorcycle travel, and the furthest they have travelled is between the Beer fridge and the TV.
Costing wise for me to travel this year from the UK to Thailand with 5 weeks in China i expect no change out of 16000 pounds, its not just the travelling its all the other items that cost, spares, camping equipment, luggage, maps, medicines, visas, insurances the list goes on. China is a big chunk of the cost above so its difficult to work on a daily costings but works out 175 quid per day for the 90 days i will be away, not cheap but when i reflect back i could blow the same ammount in Pattaya every day without trying!!

Eric

Me and my pal Mark did a RTW East to West from UK across States, ship to Vladivostok (most expensive bit) then travelled back to UK across Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Hungary etc etc. The total cost each was around £16,000 (not incl bike) but we mostly stayed in motels/hotels - although the cost for each of us was halved because we shared a room.

We were let down on sharing the cost of a container from Seattle to Vlad so ended up splitting the $6000 cost between us which made it quite expensive - had we found others to share then this could have been cut down to around $1000 (£600) each. Then we had the cost of flying from Vancouver to Vladivostok (via Bejing) so the Pacific crossing by both ourselves and the bikes was a bike drain on the old purse.

Thankfully fuel in America and Russia was cheap (compared to the UK anyway). We did do some rough camping but only when we had to. As "Touring Ted" put it in his post, you want to enjoy the experience so don't turn it into a cost saving exercise every time you want to do something or you may end up not enjoying the experience. Although I would say that I have met many travellers along my journeys who seem to take a perverse pleasure out of getting the best deal or the cheapest sleep or something for free - they are easy to spot and very easy for me to steer around.

Another thing to take into account is that you can travel the same road as many others and each person will have different experiences and encounters - no two journeys are the same and by the same token no two costings for that journey are identical either. In any event £20k will see you a good long way.

Martin

Feck it indeed!!! :-)

I'm off April 2013 and should be away for almost 18 months! Can't wait. When do you leave?

It's pretty simple to attempt to workout how much something is likely going to cost. Shipping costs, fuel cost and even (sort of) hotel costs are easily obtained. You know the distances roughly and you should know how often you are going to ship. There's you unavoidable big ticket items. Don't forget tyres (costly) and maintenance which are also distance related.

Sleeping and eating is the bit that you have to decide how you want a trip to go yourself. You can survive on greasy burgers or chicken and rice. But if you have a pizza fetish you can predict how much it'll cost you extra. I don't like to budget food and I prefer to sleep out as much as possible, but it's not always as easy. Each their own.

Add it all up and if you want to know a /day cost divide by the days and there's you answer.

Good thing about doing it that way is that you can target items where you may be able to save money if you have to. Some things you just can't save on at all (fuel, tyres, etc) so this sets realistic predictions and targets.

BTW, I'm still in denial how much my next trip may be going to cost me.

Don't forget, even though you do need a carnet for Oz and NZ (although my friend did Oz without one last year) you can get a working holiday visa in both, and then you can earn some pennies whilst travelling around. You can get in on a working holiday visa until your 31st birthday. I'm also 28 and going to Oz/NZ for this reason. :-)

How did he get into Aus without a Carnet?, it's said everywhere to be impossible. NZ have a temporary import thing so it looks like I could get around that requirement.

You sorted your Carnet then?

Andy

Hi sjbuckle83!

Which direction will you be going? I'm 29 and I'm planning a trip with a mate from Denmark to India, via Turkey and the Stans about the same time as you, e.g. spring 2013.

I'm Icelandic, he's Belgian and I'm heavily lobbying for a Ktm 640 Adventure :)

regards, Loftur

Hi Lothur,

Sounds like a great trip! We are heading through Europe into Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, Russia, Mongolia then back into Russia and on to Magadan. We're riding Yamaha XT600's!

Maybe our paths will cross in Kazakhstan??!!

Steve

Feck that sounds exiting!. I don't think we'll be going that far north sadly. But we'll see...

Loftur

Wow! Reading through and thats a nice post...carry less.....am planning a rtw in 2017 spring...reading up now. Cheers!

aditya

Goodluck!!

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I know guys that's done this rtw trip on a peddle bike and they have said the same thing about motorbikes,,,,,I think it's about how much one wants from there trips and how they want to do it,,,,,, It not how one dose it,,,,,,

So...did the OP ever go on his trip? It was five years ago now.

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Since found out you don't need a carnet for OZ and NZ if you are on a visit or working holiday visa, but you can use a carnet if you wish..

One Way Shipments - NEW ZEALAND MOTORCYCLE ADVENTURES



If a motorcycle is leaving the UK to stay permanently in NZ, there is NO duty to pay but there will be 15% GST (goods and service tax) to pay to NZ Customs when it arrives based on the CIF of your motorcycle. This is for importing your motorcycle into New Zealand permanently and is to be paid by you (the owner) once your bike has been cleared through Customs. Then you will be able to pick your motorcycle up or we can arrange delivery for you to anywhere in New Zealand.

CIF means the (cost) value of your motorcycle, the (insurance) and the (freight) to NZ or the UK.

If a motorcycle is leaving NZ to stay permanently in the UK, then there IS import duty and import VAT to pay to UK Customs when it arrives based on the CIF of your motorcycle. This is for importing your motorcycle into the UK permanently and is to be paid by you (the owner) once your bike has been cleared through Customs. Then you will be able to pick your motorcycle up or we can arrange delivery within a 100 miles from Gravesend (Mainland only).

Carnet
For those of you that are travelling on a Carnet, either on a returning journey or onward journey with us (one way to NZ or the UK), you will have NO Duty/VAT/GST to pay in either country if your Carnet has not expired.