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Round The World: October/December 2013
Round The World: October/December 2013
With my Honda Gold Wing 1500 of 1998 (km 749.000). Start 10 october 2013. Routes planned (going east): 5 continents - 34.000 km - 2 months http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10.../mappa1000.jpg From Lecce (Italy) to Katmandu: 1) Italy 2) Slovenia 3) Croatia 4) Serbia 5) Bulgaria 6) Turkey 7) Iran 8) Pakistan 9) India 10) Nepal Airplane from Kathmandu (Nepal) to Bangkok (Thailand) From Bangkok and Singapore 11) Thailand 12) Malaysia Airplane from Kuala Lumpur to Perth Australia 13) Australia Airplane from Sydney to Santiago (Chile) From Santiago to Brazil 14) Chile 15) Argentina 16) Uruguay Argentine 17) Paraguay 18 Brazil Airplane from Brazil to Dakar (Senegal) From Dakar to Gibraltar 19) Senegal 20) Mauritania 21) Western Sahara 22) Morocco Ferry Strait of Gibraltar From Gibraltar to Lecce (Italy) 23) Spain 24) France Italy |
Here are the maps. Click on the maps and it will open Google Maps.
From Lecce to Kathmandu (Nepal), 10,059 km, from 10.10.2013 to 23.10, day 14. 0) Start. 10.10.2013 from Lecce, km 0, km 0 Total 1) Thursday 10, Materija (Slo), 1134 km, 1134 2) 11, Pirot (Ser), km 914, 2048 3) 12, Gerede (Tur), km 984, 3032 http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10.../01-europa.jpg from Gerede (Tur) to 4) 13, Erzurum, km 914, 3946 5) 14, Maku (Iran), km 357, 4303 6) 15, Karaj, near Tehran, km 830, 5133 7) 16, Rafsanjan, km 912, 6045 8) 17, Iran-Pakistan border, km 708, 6753 http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10...te/02-asia.jpg from Iran-Pakistan border to 9) 18, Quetta (Pak), km 638, 7391 10) 19, Multan, 632 km, 8023 11) 20, Amritsar (India), km 399, 8422 12) 21, Agra, 638 km, 9060 http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10...3-pakistan.jpg da Agra (India) to 13) 22, Gorakhpur, km 592, 9.652 14) 23, Katmandu (Nepal), km 403, 10.055 http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10...e/04-india.jpg |
15, 16, 17) (24, 25, 26) plane from Kathmandu (Nepal) to Bangkok (Thailand), 2215 km
from Bangkok (Thailand) to 18) 27, Chumphon, km 465, 10520 19) 28, George Town (Malaysia), km 686, 11206 20) 29, Kuala Lumpur, km 357, 11563 21, 22, 23 (october 30, 31, november 1) plane from Kuala Lumpur to Perth (Australia), 4190 km http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10...-indocina2.jpg |
CANCELLED THE TRIP IN INDONESIA
from Dumai (Indonesia) 21) 30, Padang, km 529, 12225 22) 31, Bengkulu, km 563, 12788 23) 1 november, Bakau (Indon. South Sumatra), km 665, 13453 ferry Sumatra-Java, 30 km 24) 2, Semarang (Java Indon.), km 592, 14045 ferry Java-Bali, 5 km 25) 3, Denpasar (Bali Indon.), km 718, 14763 26, 27, 28) (lu.4, ma.5, me.6) plane to Darwin (Australia), 1760 km http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10...-indonesia.jpg |
from Perth to
24) november 2, western Australia, km 1.257, 12820 25) 3, Derby, km 1.244, 14064 26) 4, Kununurra, km 897, 14961 27) 5, Darwin, km 831, 15792 28) 6, Kakadu National Park, km 0 29) 7, Three Ways, km 957, 16970 30) 8, Ayers Rock / Uluri, km 995, 17983 31) 9, Port Augusta, 1284 km, 19267 32) 10, Melbourne, 1034 km, 20304 (tire change) 33) 11, Sydney, 1029 km, 21337 34, 35, 36, 37) (12, 13, 14, 15) plane to Santiago (Chile), 11,360 km http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10...ustralia-2.jpg http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10...ralia-cile.jpg |
from Santiago (Chile)
38) 16, Mercedes (Argentina), km 705, 22402 39) 17, Buenos Aires, km 699, 22741 40) 18, Posadas (Paraguay), 1145 km, 23886 41) 19, Curitiba (Brazil), km 929, 24815 42) 20, Rio de Janeiro, km 945, 25760 43, 44, 45, 46) (21, 22, 23, 24) plane to Dakar (Senegal), 5046 km http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10...08-america.jpg |
From Dakar to
47) 25, Nouakchott (Mauritania), km 518, 26278 48) 26, Dakhla (Western Sahara.), Km 817, 27095 49) 27, El Ayun, km 530, 27625 50) 28, Essaoiura (Morocco), km 805, 28430 51) 29, Tangier, km 698, 29128 ferry to Tarifa (Spain), 30 km http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10.../09-africa.jpg |
from Tarifa to
52) 30, Tarragona, 1065 km, 30193 53) 1 december 2012, Carrara (Italy), 1051 km, 31244 54) Monday 2 decembre 2013, Lecce (Italy), km 973, 32217 km http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10.../10-europa.jpg In summary, they are, on paper, to travel 32,217 kilometers in 54 days. In doing so, I figured my rhythm, "normal", plus a little time to visit something. I figured 3 days for flights for those short and 4 long (shipping, packaging and bureaucracy). Applying a percentage of 10% safety, the km could become the expected 35,000 and days projected 60. I ask myself the limit to complete the ride in 80 days, but I think it reasonable to be able to finish in 60. So starting October 10, arrival between December 2 (54 days), on 8 December (60 days) and 28 December (80 days). During the trip I 'll change tires (in Australia, at 20,000 km) and 3 oil change, including filter (10,000, 20,000, 30,000). Otherwise the bike, if all goes well, you should not need. The km is not running should be: 1 ferry: km 30 4 airplanes: 2,215 +4,190 +11,360 +5,046 = 22,811 I'm beginning to contact the shippers for journeys by air: this is my main concern. |
Getting from Malaysia to Indonesia is probably one of the problems. If you're extremely lucky, there's a ferry. But most likely there isn't. Even if there is, next month there may not be. It depends.
Also shipping from Brazil to Senegal might turn out problematic. Haven't done that one myself, though, so just guessing. I think your road distance calculations are a bit on the short side. I started from Germany, then mostly had your route from Turkey to northern India (I shipped Chennai-Bangkok).. but when I reached Bali, I'd covered over 25000 road kms, and I did not make a whole lot of detours, except going through South India. I spent 6 months until Sydney (my trip was almost exactly 34000 kms, but in Oz we did make a few detours) ...... but to continue & make a RTW of it in just TWO months (if that really is your plan??) is just way too short for me. I don't say that it is definitely impossible, but you will really need absolutely everything to click in place 100%, especially the shippings. Still you are gonna miss out on a whole lot due to the hurry. Personally I'd find more time, or cut the trip shorter (or maybe think about doing it in sections?) ps. looking at your plan, I can quarantee you that those 400-600 kms PER DAY in places like India & Indonesia are gonna be tough. It is NOT like riding in Europe, it is constant survival, every second on the road, and the roads are congested beyond belief, so it will sap your energy unbelievably. You can't have very high average speeds, it's just impossible. Also I would not ride there very tired, it's dangerous enough without that! |
thanks pecha72. I'm used to these rhythms, last year Italy-Korea-Japan and back, through Siberia (by land) in less than 2 months (see my site http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2011-06...ne/indice.html ), first Italian-Mongolia and back in 40 days across the street silk (also you can see on the site http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2009-06...ia/indice.html ).
Not a problem get to the airport a day or a week later, because I will obtain agreement with shippers for flights to date "open." If the flight is, I take it. :) From the information that I have, air or ferry connections are there in those traits. However, I'm checking. About time, I have a job and a family trip during the holidays. And I like to travel fast. :) will be a maximum of 80 days. |
Ok, we are different, I like to travel slower, and honestly I would get too much stress from that plan. But maybe you are able to pull it off. And please do report here, how it worked out for you!
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Ok pecha72. :)
Of course, I will make a report after the trip ... hoping to complete it! In fact, I do not underestimate the difficulties: I never said (not even with my friends in Italy), which is easy, and if I say this, I would be superficial. It is however exciting, at least for me, this preparation, which must be as methodical and accurate. The success of a trip of this kind, in my opinion, depends to a half of preparation. P.S. We are all (persons) different. ;) |
I'm having big problems to find the flights over the three oceans (Indian, Pacific, Atlantic), so far I've only found the flight on inaccessible Burma.
To be more precise, I can not even find just a forwarder to take care of those traits: those on the HU do not exist or do not respond. :( But do not give up! Not to go OT here, I will open soon a topic for the air routes of which I speak, in the appropriate section. |
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I think there are at least 3 key differences between your trip to Japan and this RTW-plan: - the number of possibly complicated border crossings outside Europe - the need to use freight several times to get your bike transported across the seas - travelling more north to south and vice versa, therefore crossing many more climate zones in both hemispheres.. and when you´re doing this on a very tight schedule, avoiding extreme weather, and other hardships that it might bring, will be much harder. |
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2) The different means of transport (in my journey 4 ferries uncomplicated and 4 planes) are inevitable in a RTW: it is impossible to make a RTW without taking at least two planes (or ships, who has the time) on the oceans, the air are 3 if you want to cross all 5 continents, and also Australia, having to cross the Indian Ocean). Burma is not a problem: I already have agreements with the shipper. It 's true that this is a complication, but with careful planning you can solve. I do not deny that it is more complex, but this is the challenge. Otherwise it was easy. 3) The period chosen allows me to avoid extreme conditions: the end of October the monsoons are over in India; find rains in Indonesia but not the end of the world (the worst rain in my life I found 2 km from my house in Italy, and was no better than a monsoon), I come to Australia and South America in the late spring, and in good weather, and above all, any delay after the initial phase will mean that I'll be there in the second part of the journey with condiizoni better weather, because the southern hemisphere will go towards the summer. In conclusion, it is difficult, challenging, but I know I can do it, I do not stop for a little 'water temperature or 40 °, but only a breakdown or accident beyond repair, but these risks I have already addressed in my previous trips. The real problem is finding the planes, and this is what I'm trying to solve: now, a year before, when I get there, it would be too late. ;) |
I corrected the trip, excluding Indonesia, for the reasons explained in the topic http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ustralia-67106
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Of course, the obvious question is: why the heck ? but to each their own.
Iron Butt aside, the main problem I see with your maniac plan is the shipping: I've been in Kathmandu and overseen the shipping of a bike myself, I can see it can take anywhere from 1-2 weeks. Don't expect to just waltz in and find people ready to crate your bike and haul it into the plane. They just don't work like that over there. I imagine the Thai and Malaysians may possibly be a bit better but not so much. And you have no idea how bad the Brazilian bureaucracy is. Better ship from Argentina. Now, how long could it possibly take to clear a bike from the customs in Dakar, I can only guess... only to run into their colleagues at the Mauri border a few hours later! You're looking at more time spent with shipping and running from office to office than actually riding. So why the heck... In any case, we want to hear how it went here! Happy riding, Laurent |
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"Why the heck?" And you've already given the answer. "To each Their Own." But now I will try to give a more complete answer. I am a biker and a traveler, I call myself a "motoviaggiatore" (in English I think we can translate "motorcycle traveler"). I like to travel by motorcycle. Only with the motorcycle, and the motorcycle I just like if I travel. I traveled with my bike in 64 countries: all the states of Europe, half of Asia and North Africa. I arrived with my bike at the farthest point that I could reach by land, starting from my house (Lecce, Italy): Vladivostok, after more than 13,000 kilometers and 15 days of uninterrupted driving from the Mediterranean to the Pacific. And in Vladivostok, after visiting Japan and Korea, I rode the bike and I went back to the same road. I want to make a trip that should not turn the bike back, I want to keep on going, this is the meaning of my around the world. We in Europe do not have nearly as the problem of borders, often even now descend from the bike to cross a border, a quick check with a customs officer distracted just watching our document. Outside Europe, it changes everything, and, as Europe I "finished", I already know I'll have to deal with these challenges border. I have dealt with the customs of Egypt, Mongolia, Turkmenistan ..., what I find during my RTW, then they will not be too much worse than the old ones. But in a journey that goes out of the good old, simple Europe is this normal, I would be delusional if I thought it's all easy. If I wanted to only drive on nice roads, would not go out of Europe, which has some amazing roads and better suited to the bike most of the states that will cross, and indeed may not even get out of Italy that I consider the most beautiful country in the world (along with the mountains of your Switzerland). But I am a traveler, not just a motorcycle, a motorcycle traveler. At a RTW also borders difficult have their charm, are like salt in a dish: no, it would be bland. Are an additional challenge, as well as the miles, the roads, fatigue, sun, cold, heat, accidents. The whole makes a RTW. According to me. Regarding your predictions on the timing of the couriers, I have organized so (see the four specific topics that I opened). With the courier in Kathmandu I have already made arrangements, set the price and time, in two days I'll be ready to go. If he's late, do not pay him: he wants the money and then do the work. Already has the measurements of my bike. From Malaysia to put the motorcycle on the plane is simple: lots of riders have told you did in one day alone. In Brazil, my correspondent has already documents, and my bike, to save time. The ship (from Argentina) I can not take: it's too slow compared to the plane. And then I want to get in Brazil: no turning back (or I stop) in Argentina. Australia are almost already building the case. A 2-month RTW is not organized at the last minute, but with method, precision and tenacity. One last thing: I want to make the RTW, but I do not want to leave my family and my job for more than two months. So I will do my RTW in two months, and I will continue to do so, because, after all, I like to travel so fast. If I give up on such trips because they're too fast for many, then it would limit my horizons and do not want to limit them. :) |
After seeing some of those astronomically expensive quotes you've received from shippers, here's a tip (just to consider, its fully possible you've already decided what to do, and I respect that, but I'll just throw it here anyway):
How about doing this same trip in multiple "legs"? Like first ride to some suitable country in Asia, store the bike there, fly home to work, next year return to continue to do the 2nd leg, and so on. I understood you needed to keep your job back home. This way it might be possible. And while it would not make everything regarding the trip logistics trouble-free, it would at least mean you are in not in as much of a hurry. Ride to Asia&store the bike in two months, fully doable...but RTW with what, 4 major shippings, in two months? That should go into the Guinness book of records, if you can pull that off! But like I said, merely a suggestion to consider. To even fly home once (so the trip split into two legs) could already be a different ballgame.. though still quick for a RTW-tour. |
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Because it is contrary to my way of traveling. A journey for me has to have a beginning, a middle and an end. A journey "in installments" I just do not conceive. On a trip I appreciate the unity of time, place, and action (concepts initially attributed to Aristotle). Unit of time: a trip should not have breaks, except those necessary techniques. Unity of place: a journey to be a "continuous line" without jumps (of course, except those necessary: I can not walk on water). Unity of action. Once you start the journey, I devote myself completely to travel: not interrupt him to return to "normal" life. This is my "travel philosophy". :) |
Are engaged in final preparations (start 1 october), including the latest visa. It arises some problem. :(
Pakistan does not accept my itinerary because it passes from Quetta and Multan, a city too "hot" (especially the first, near the border with Afghanistan and home to trafficking in arms and drugs). So to get a visa, I have to find a route that avoids these two cities. Not easy, given the road network of Pakistan and since I have to go in Iran (the only open border) and exit to India (Attari-Wagah border, near Lahore). I looked for an alternative to present to the Pakistani consulate in Rome. That's the best I could do: Quetta avoid it but there step 25 km south (between the cities of Quetta and Mastung Kuchlak, close to Afghanistan: I deleted the name from the map so that sound too close to my route); Multan we step to the east (enough ?). Now I try to present this route to Pakistan, hoping that's enough. http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2013-10...stan2-1024.jpg I will ask the Pakistani consulate (through the agency of Rome who is researching visas) that even if this does not fit my itinerary, I tell them a path to get to the border with India! I also want to emphasize the Pakistanis that there are no alternative ways to move from the west of Pakistan (border with Iran) to the east (border with India). We hope that the Pakistanis is "collaborative". :rolleyes2: Anyone have news or suggestions of how to cross the Pakistan from west to east? |
Yesterday I received the last visa.
Starting Wednesday, October 2! :scooter: (as Phileas Fogg in Around the World in 80 Days by Jules Verne). |
HI from Dubai
wishing you a safe ride
i know it hard to pass throw Pakistan from the begining, my advice is vross over to UAE & Oman and ship the bike to India. Regards Saleh |
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Wish you safe ride !
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Hi Gold Wing,
When you are in Malaysia, please be free to stay in my humble rented house in Batu Gajah in Perak state, somewhere in between Georgetown and Kuala Lumpur. I know few Gold Wing bikers here in Perak who could offer any tech help you may need just in case. Remember, you got friends in Malaysia who are more than happy to assist you. My cell phone is +60193854736. Best you SMS or WhatsApp me as I may sometimes be in jungle somewhere there is no signal. Ride Safe. :scooter: |
I think the reason why you didn't get visa is not because of HOT Multan or Quetta but the law and order situation in Baluchistan ( the province of which Quetta is capital)
I will suggest an alternate route presuming you are doing this leg in summers. Why don't you turn North from Iran into Turkamnestan, Uzbakestan then Kazakhstan and into China then head south on the famous Karakorum highway (Old Silk route) and pass over Khunjerab Pass into Pakistan. Some majestic heights and scenery is on the menu. Roll down along Indus river and into Islamabad and then Lahore and then India. I am shaky about how to get into China from Uzbakestan as there are two routes, broadly a. Uzbakestan, Kyrgyz republic, China b. Uzbakestan, Kazakhstan, China hope this helps best o luck for the trip Wen u cross Pakistan drop by :thumbup1::mchappy: |
@Blitzboy: Do you even remotely know the hassle and the cost to do what you just said? China...?
it is one of the countries that I will always keep as last on my to do list, as it costs you a bloody fortune to cross it on a bike. |
Good luck
I am going to be doing the same route through Iran, Pakistan and in to India next year. I leave in March to attempt a solo RTW on my HOnda CRF250L. My trip will take a lot longer but good luck to you and please let me know how you get on with the Visa situation.
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Just saw your Facebook and realised I have already 'liked' it. When are you aiming to get into Pakistan/India. I am coming in towards the same region however from the East. I am aiming to be in Pakistan in early-mid September, however that will become more sure once I can figure out my dates for China crossing. |
trip ended
The trip ended with my regularly return home on the evening of December 24, after 83 days, 33,650 kilometers, 24 states and the 5 continents.
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Wow well done when i get home from work tonight will have a look see at your sights
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Syeph if u coming you India be my guest. Am in Gujarat State. I just completed my ride from india to london
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All bikers are welcom home when in India
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