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Approximate cost for UK to South Africa ?

Excluding bike, spares and equipment...

How much do you think you will need to ride from the UK to South Africa... Over about 4-6 months.

Getting through Europe in as little time as possible.

Mixture of cheap accommodation and camping...

Just looking for ball park figures really...

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I'm scared to calculate the Number. We did Sept07 to Feb08 on Africa Twins. I may have calculated this number by Horizons in a couple of months otherwise I'll try to remember and find this thread to reply...
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I'm scared to calculate the Number. We did Sept07 to Feb08 on Africa Twins. I may have calculated this number by Horizons in a couple of months otherwise I'll try to remember and find this thread to reply...
Hi Ed...

How funny... I have been reading your and Dans blog today.. I met you at the HU meeting. I know Chris..

It would be great if you could give me a ball park figure...

Thanks, Ted

I'm the scouser who sold his bike in Colombia (if you remember)

P.S.... I have an Africa Twin now but I was thinking of swapping it for something more like Chris's bike.. A DRZ400S to be precise. What are you views on this ?? Ta
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Ted,

You didn't say which coast - east or west?

West is slightly more expensive in my view. This is partly because there are less organised camp-sites, so you will either be free-camping more (which is clearly cheaper) or spending more time in hotels (which is obviously not)

I would budget a minimum of €40 per day for west coast, probably €30 per day east coast.

Two other factors will impact - east coast has far more national parks etc, so if you want to visit these your costs will rise substantially. East route will definately require a carnet, thus adding to initial cost, but reducing your average cost at borders, whereas you can do the west solely on laissez passers, which mean no initial outlay, but generally at least €20 + per border crossing.

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You didn't say which coast - east or west?

West is slightly more expensive in my view. This is partly because there are less organised camp-sites, so you will either be free-camping more (which is clearly cheaper) or spending more time in hotels (which is obviously not)

I would budget a minimum of €40 per day for west coast, probably €30 per day east coast.

Two other factors will impact - east coast has far more national parks etc, so if you want to visit these your costs will rise substantially. East route will definately require a carnet, thus adding to initial cost, but reducing your average cost at borders, whereas you can do the west solely on laissez passers, which mean no initial outlay, but generally at least €20 + per border crossing.

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Thanks for the reply mate !

Really havn't thought about it that far LOL.... I was thinking more east coast due to the national parks and camping tbh.

So 180 days x €50 (to be safe) = €9000, Which is kind of what I was guessing.

Anyone need to buy a liver ???

I expect to have about £5000 saved by Christmas but looks like I might just be leaving it to the following year....
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Me and 2 other friends did it in 3 months down the west coast from November 2007 - januarie 2008.

It worked out at about a 1000 pounds a month,camping and sleeping in cheapish accomodation. We did not have any problems with the bikes along the way so no parts was couriered. Think the most expensive item is fuel for the bike and after that most probably accomodation. We also met up with ed,dan and chris along the way.
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How are you ed,things going all right there in the UK?
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Me and 2 other friends did it in 3 months down the west coast from November 2007 - januarie 2008.

It worked out at about a 1000 pounds a month,camping and sleeping in cheapish accomodation. We did not have any problems with the bikes along the way so no parts was couriered. Think the most expensive item is fuel for the bike and after that most probably accomodation. We also met up with ed,dan and chris along the way.
Hope it helps a bit.

How are you ed,things going all right there in the UK?
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Are you the guys who used the DRZ's ?? If yes.. how do you rate them for the task ??? Ta
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MJ and the boys were on KTM640s. Dan and Linz were on the DRZs.
MJ - All is well with me here in the UK. How're things in SA. I saw Chris too at the weekend and had a top night out with him (talking about the trip and future ones). In fact, I'm lining up a trip next year with Dan. I'm going UK to Magadan and Dan's going on to do the Alaska to Antarctica afterwards. We're still deciding what bikes to take but it's good to have some plans to work towards.
Ted, I take it we'll catch up at Horizons? I'll have to have a look these figures before Dan and I give an updated version of our talk - the region is constantly changing but the experience/encouragement for those doing similar trips is the key.
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MJ and the boys were on KTM640s. Dan and Linz were on the DRZs.
MJ - All is well with me here in the UK. How're things in SA. I saw Chris too at the weekend and had a top night out with him (talking about the trip and future ones). In fact, I'm lining up a trip next year with Dan. I'm going UK to Magadan and Dan's going on to do the Alaska to Antarctica afterwards. We're still deciding what bikes to take but it's good to have some plans to work towards.
Ted, I take it we'll catch up at Horizons? I'll have to have a look these figures before Dan and I give an updated version of our talk - the region is constantly changing but the experience/encouragement for those doing similar trips is the key.
Cool man... I'll interrigate you at Ripley !
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I spent about 1000Euro per month once in africa in 2007/08. Now however with the £ taking a nose dive I'd work on £1000. It could be done less of course-don't drink ! I think my whole trip over 10 months cost about £7000. Flying back I got a ticket £330 one way to London. Bike was £500. Another 150 in London I think. so getting yourself and the bike back £1000 plus abit for another year and a duff £.

You can't sell your UK bike in south africa with out risking your carnet deposit. speak to Paul Gowen at the RAC about this, he is very helpful.

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I spent about 1000Euro per month once in africa in 2007/08. Now however with the £ taking a nose dive I'd work on £1000. It could be done less of course-don't drink ! I think my whole trip over 10 months cost about £7000. Flying back I got a ticket £330 one way to London. Bike was £500. Another 150 in London I think. so getting yourself and the bike back £1000 plus abit for another year and a duff £.

You can't sell your UK bike in south africa with out risking your carnet deposit. speak to Paul Gowen at the RAC about this, he is very helpful.

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Thanks George. I was already working at a £1000 a month and your post helps to confirm that..

So, £5000 for 5 months travelling, £1500 for a carnet and £1000 to get me and the bike home. Throw in £500-£1000 for unexpected loses and repairs leaves me with a bill of

£7000 + £1500 carnet deposit.

Food for thought... Thanks again George.
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Petrol cost is at the moment R7.25 per liter in South Africa. The price fluctuates from time to time.
Accomodation per night ranges from R120 (cheap room) to R800 per night. While in Cape Town you can stay at my house on the house.
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