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African game parks on a motorcycle

Hello all.
I'm living in Italy and scheming a 6 month trip to southern Africa. I've been there 20 years ago, Namibia by rental car, Botswana to Kenya on an overland trip, uganda by public transport.
I want to return (with or without my dear wife) to make the run Tunisia (easy by ferry from Genoa) to SA.

What is the story on visiting game parks in TZ and Kenya and Botswana on a motorcycle? Is it impossible in all parks that have cats and elephants and hippos?

We are just back from 3 weeks in Morocco, what a fabulous country for off road riding. 1500 euros for 2 of us for 3 weeks, 2/3 hotels, 1/3 camping, 4000 km.
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Hi,

You can enter the Micumi National Park in Tansania on the way to Malawi with a motorbike scince the main road is crossing it. There i saw many Elephantes, Girafes and other animales and on the road i saw the sign beware of hippos...





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wildlife, pests we call them.

You can ride a bicycle in hells gate national park Kenya as there isn't anthing that will harm you. If the park has cats it's probably best not to ride a bike in them. Cats like to chase things. Elephants aren't so bad, you will see them on the road south of Dar a salaam on your way to Malawi and again around vic falls. Hippos kill loads of people ever year mostly in the water during the day but a few people are killed at night on land when they get between mom and baby hippo. Plus its body expensive to take a foreign registered vehicle into tz and Kenya nt parks.
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So what do us moto riders do to see lots of wildlife, park it somewhere and join a safari tour? for a few days or a week?

how much are the vehicle entry costs? I've seen figures like 10$ pp/day in the TZ parks.

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Hi,

Well Ngorogoro and Serengeti in Kenya would have been US$ 100 each pp + renting a vehicle thats why i did not go there.

Kruger National Park in Southafrica was really cheap. People who saw me with the strange german numberplate invited me to hop in there car so i parked my bike outside and just payed the local southafrican entrance with was US$4 per day or so. Tourists pay about 10 times as much but its still ok. To enter Molof Park close by was even free and there where lots of Girafes and Zebras running around as well:

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Roberts Camp, Northern Kenya is a very nice place to stay.

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Plenty of hippos to see and they'll wander around your tent at night munching the grass. Take something to record the sound of it in your tent. (I didn't - pity).

Also in the day sometimes, getting close to the back end of my parked bike:



You can ride through Mikumi park in Tanzania, but maybe ask locally when's the best time to see the most. I rode through and saw a crowd of elephants. Went again the next day and there were none to see. Always giraffe and zebra close to the road though.

The Nairobi to Mombasa road goes through a park and there's sometimes wildlife to see from the road. One huge elephant when we went through.

I found that wildlife ignores traffic tearing along the roads, but as soon as you stop on your bike it mostly scarpers. Best way I found is to slow right down immediately on seeing something ahead, but keep moving. Then if there's something on the side of the road you can blend in with, trees, (or a bridge parapet worked well once) stop gently and wait a while before getting off.

Somewhere on the HUBB I've read about a campsite in Zambia (Eastern Zambia I think) where elephants regularly wander through.
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Parked the bike in the hotel room for a few days in Arusha and booked on a safari up to Ngorogoro which was probably the best way to do it.

Driving into Hwange camp in Zimbabwe there are signs on the road which say 'no motorbikes beyond this point'. We ignored the sign and within 1km were confronted with an elephant walking nonchalantly down the road towards us. We stopped about 50m short and a couple of cars arrived behind us. One of the car drivers suggested we all turn round and then one car reverses at the elephant - if he gets stroppy we all drive off safely but in this case he just wandered off into the bush and continued to rip the trees to shreds.
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Thanks to all for these good inspirations, you can have your cake and eat it too.
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Basically, you can't ride your bike through National Parks in Africa where there are animals. Obviously a few exceptions as noted above, but if you want to get into the good animal parks then you will need to pay quite a lot for often badly run Safari tours etc.

Kenya, Tanzania and Zambia charge stupidly high prices for entrance fees - $80 etc for the better parks.

My strong advice is wait until Nambia and South Africa. In both Etosha and Kruger you can rent a small normal car and enjoy the parks for 9 Euros a day in Etosha and in SA buy a wild card for about 150 Euros for a couple and have a years worth of park entries. You just need to pay for camping outside where you can also leave the bikes etc.

Botswana is mostly all deep sand in places like Chobe, so you would need to go through a lodge to hire a driver/4x4 as all other tourist do etc

Kenya, Tanzania and Zambia aren't really any/much better, so save most of your cash for a better experience down south.

Though the parks in southern Tanzania are much cheaper and quite good.

Just finished almost 3 years in Africa and raked up at least 150 days in parks etc
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I've heard good things about the southern TZ parks. Not biker friendly i guess either.

Advice taken on the Kenya parks. So Botswana (by boat and safari in Chobe etc), and Namibia (and SA), can do it well enough if you are going the whole length of africa.

Everyone:
what are your comments about a 6 month trip starting in November, ending in May? It appears to dodge teh rainy seasons, hits the calving season in the Sarengetti, and no heat issues across Libya or Tunisia or Egypt.
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Everyone:
what are your comments about a 6 month trip starting in November, ending in May? It appears to dodge teh rainy seasons, hits the calving season in the Sarengetti, and no heat issues across Libya or Tunisia or Egypt.
November to May is nice!

BTW:
You can visit the parks in Uganda with a bike. Personally I think Uganda is worth visiting.
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In general, motorcycles are not allowed in parks that have big game like lions,etc.

In practice, you may be able to persuade some of them to let you in if you stand around long enough and pay enough.

That said, you shouldn't count on it as a matter of practice. Most game parts are pretty damn expensive especially since they have double pricing policies in place for foreigners. Game drives are expensive. The better the experience and the more authentic, the more ridiculous prices get.
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I rode my motorbike around the Queen Elizabeth National Park, staying at Mweya It was great, heaps of Elephants tho & I actually didn't know I was in a National park until I arrived at the gate to Mweya.
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Riding a motorcycle in nearly all game parks is not allowed... "no pikipiki" you will be told. I have ridden across the Skeleton Coast and also through South Luangwa game park on my KTM.. but those were exceptional circumstances. No chance in Kenya or Tanzania.

As for animals.. whilst the game parks concentrate the animals for conservation ... you WILL see every type of animal OUTSIDE the parks (maybe not rhino or wild dog as they are rare) but do not be mistaken that elephants, lions and hyenas know the boundaries of the Msai Mara or Serengeti they do not and you can ride through the masai villages and trails and maybe see them. You will almost certainly see lots of elephants. There are some places that are not classified as game parks such as Lake Charla in Tanzania which are full of game and beautiful.

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Hello all.
I'm living in Italy and scheming a 6 month trip to southern Africa. I've been there 20 years ago, Namibia by rental car, Botswana to Kenya on an overland trip, uganda by public transport.
I want to return (with or without my dear wife) to make the run Tunisia (easy by ferry from Genoa) to SA.

What is the story on visiting game parks in TZ and Kenya and Botswana on a motorcycle? Is it impossible in all parks that have cats and elephants and hippos?

We are just back from 3 weeks in Morocco, what a fabulous country for off road riding. 1500 euros for 2 of us for 3 weeks, 2/3 hotels, 1/3 camping, 4000 km.
Ciao
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Games parks and carnets

Thanks all for these encouraging words; as i fret with bike prep and impending paperwork issues; the animals are, in part why I'm going, having gone there 20 years ago in 4 wheeled transport with motorcycling just a distant dream

So what about Carnets; that is my next hassle, the CAA for us Yanks is our only option. Is it required for a run down the east coast, Tunisia to Capetown?

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What is the #1 thing you wish you'd brought?

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