Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > Northern Asia

Northern Asia Topics specific to Russia, Central Asia (also known as "the 'stans"), Mongolia, Japan and Korea
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Refreshing, funny, informative, thought provoking, honest, inspirational, infectious, budget overlanding. A handbook, a guidebook but ultimately a genuine traveller’s tale

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12 Jul 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London, W3 (the nice part though!)
Posts: 220
Routes from Kyrgistan to Tajikistan? And situation in Pamhirs

Is there another route linking the two countries besides the Pamhir highway?

My map shows one road going south west off the main pamhir road just south of Osh. Someone told me that they don't think this road is passable for foreigners.

Another road goes west from Osh towards a city in Tj called something like Sidzhand. The map shows this road going into a few small peninsulars of Uzbekistan. I'm told locals travel freely along this route, but it is unknown what the score is for foreigners. Someone else told me that they heard it's possible to hire a taxi to drive off the main route to avoid the small bits of Uzbekistan (obviously travelling by motorcycle I'd be able to do that without the taxi).

Any info on these routes, both in their passibility and also which would be more interesting if they're passable for foreigners? And no I don't have an Uzbek visa so cannot take a route through Uzbekistan.

Finally, can anyone update about the current situation on the Pamhir highway?
I have received good info off an extreme Austrian riding a KTM. He found very cold snowy weather in the pamhirs, and said the part going east from Bishkek is closed to foreigners due to military activities, and that the alternative route is hugging the Afghan border and the Pindzh river (not sure if that's how to write it in english). This road is not fully marked on my map. He warned also that this is a pretty deep river crossing on this road. This info is maybe from one month ago though so I'm wondering if anyone else has different experiences from more recently?

UK to Mongolia 2009, on a DR350
Reply With Quote
Old 13 Jul 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cracow, Poland
Posts: 157
Road from Sary Tash going west is really closed for forigners. You can go trough enclaves but you will be asked for visa. You can drive around but this will need help of locals.
This year was snowy in Pamir and my friends who travelled in Pamir Hgw 2 weeks ago and were stuck by heavy snow. I travelled there many times and always was sunny
It is Asia - if there is a snow you have to stay and wait a day or two when it will melt Snow is a normal in high mountains and you can expect it any day. But normally it snows at night and melt during the day...
Road along Pyanzh river is beatifull and absolutely a must. Every year is in bad conditions in spring. In August is ok and passable. I will be there in 3 weeks so you can get fresh update.
Reply With Quote
Old 13 Jul 2009
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 18
I also highly recommend the route following the Afgan border - it is a really beautiful, remote route. There are no river crossings without bridges along this route, well at least there wasn't last year.

There is a third route starting from Kharog and heading due east between the Pamir Hwy and the Afgan border. We only road part of this route due to not having the correct permits, however the locals said that this route has a big river crossing that isn't always crossible. This is probably what the KTM guy was referring to.
Reply With Quote
Old 14 Jul 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London, W3 (the nice part though!)
Posts: 220
The bit he was reffering to is in the west not that far from Dushanbe. If you head off to start the Pamhir highway from Dushanbe after about 100 klicks or so he reckons there's been some military operations against pro-taliban fighters.

In the east will definately take the route hugging the border. I'm leaving Bishkek today so will be riding there in the next few weeks. Will let you know how I get on and what the situation is with open/closed roads and snow etc.
UK to Mongolia 2009, on a DR350
Reply With Quote
Old 14 Jul 2009
Tenere99's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 138
wrong shirt

They will only allow in people who are not wearing British sea power t-shirts. stop sitting around drinking coffee Jim xt600 tenere
Reply With Quote

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Khorog - Tajikistan PaulM Northern Asia 4 9 Jul 2008 22:59
Offroad Routes UK to Turkey on XR400s. Routes, Maps, Ideas - Any Help Welcome! ateh1 Route Planning 2 22 May 2008 00:21
Pakistan to Tajikistan amiller Route Planning 6 20 Aug 2005 19:35
going to afghanistan tajikistan vincent danna Route Planning 4 20 Jan 2003 10:54
afghanistan tajikistan vincent danna Travellers' Advisories, Safety and Security on the Road 0 22 Nov 2002 22:29


HU DVD Summer Special!

Now that summer is here, get On the Road! Take 30% off the Achievable Dream - On the Road! 2-DVD set until August 31 only. Get On the Road! Learn the tips to staying healthy, happy and secure on your motorcycle adventure!

Our veteran travellers share their tips (and great stories) for staying healthy, happy and secure on your motorcycle adventure.

"A fantastic, informative and inspirational DVD."

"It's brilliant - thank you very much!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'ONTHEROAD' on your order when you checkout.

Renedian Adventures

Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!

What turns you on to motorcycle travel?

Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.

Books & DVDs


All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.

Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 00:01.