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zandesiro 25 Nov 2012 13:19

Question...A Varadero xl1000v to the "Stans"...
 
I'm start gathering some infos for an adventure trip in the "Stans"...

The major plan is Greece.....Turkey.....Georgia.....Azerbaijan then boat to Turkmenistan......Uzbekistan.....Tajikistan.....Ky rgistan.....kazakstan boat to Azerbaijan.....Armenia.....Turkey....Greece.

As the title said, is a trip to the stans possible with a full loaded Varadero xl1000v??

http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0ffdc8d0.jpg

I would like to hear the opinion of people that have travelled in the "Stans"...

:confused1:

Sambor 25 Nov 2012 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by zandesiro (Post 401828)

I would like to hear the opinion of people that have travelled in the "Stans"...

:confused1:

It depends what are you going to do with this fully loaded Varadero. If you are going to travel on main roads, like M41 for example, you can ride even on Electra Glide. Varadero is a good bike for such a trip. But if you want to make a shortcats, for example through Bartang Valley I would advice make another choice.

zandesiro 25 Nov 2012 16:41

Thank you,M41 its ok for me!This is one of the road that i was worried if varadero can passing througth..

zandesiro 26 Nov 2012 21:20

Sambor...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sambor (Post 401838)
It depends what are you going to do with this fully loaded Varadero. If you are going to travel on main roads, like M41 for example, you can ride even on Electra Glide. Varadero is a good bike for such a trip. But if you want to make a shortcats, for example through Bartang Valley I would advice make another choice.

Just got the book of Robert Wicks of adventure motorcycle routes and I read your infos about Central Asia....!:thumbup1:
I hope if i need something (info or a question) i can send you a message!

dnicoletti 27 Nov 2012 13:15

Hi there,
i've rode the 'Stans on 2010 with my "ultralight" "nicehandling" and "superperforming" Harley-Davidson Dyna Superglide.
M41 itsn't properly an "healty walk" for bike like that, expecially along the Obigarm-Khalaikhum section in Tajikstan. I never wouldn't reccomend to ride it on a Harley Electra... but, if you're an atheist you can get enough time to get blasphemy while you riding along that route...
Get more serious; M41 it is absolutely doable on a Varadero, as i did it on a Harley...
Worst section is, as above said, from Obigarm to Khalaikhum. no tarmac at all, rare traffic in case you need help, stones, sand, steepy stints and, in case of rain, a lot of funny mud.
From Khalaikhum to Khorog river Pyandhz could be a mess in case of flash flood: road can get suddennly submerged by waters, and you get stuck in between, as it was happened to me...
Anyway, you can easily do it: you ride a good bike able enough to face the Pamir and the whole m41 wich it absolutely worth a ride.

lungastrada.it

zandesiro 27 Nov 2012 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnicoletti (Post 402088)
Hi there,
i've rode the 'Stans on 2010 with my "ultralight" "nicehandling" and "superperforming" Harley-Davidson Dyna Superglide.
M41 itsn't properly an "healty walk" for bike like that, expecially along the Obigarm-Khalaikhum section in Tajikstan. I never wouldn't reccomend to ride it on a Harley Electra... but, if you're an atheist you can get enough time to get blasphemy while you riding along that route...
Get more serious; M41 it is absolutely doable on a Varadero, as i did it on a Harley...
Worst section is, as above said, from Obigarm to Khalaikhum. no tarmac at all, rare traffic in case you need help, stones, sand, steepy stints and, in case of rain, a lot of funny mud.
From Khalaikhum to Khorog river Pyandhz could be a mess in case of flash flood: road can get suddennly submerged by waters, and you get stuck in between, as it was happened to me...
Anyway, you can easily do it: you ride a good bike able enough to face the Pamir and the whole m41 wich it absolutely worth a ride.

lungastrada.it

dnicoletti, your opinion is really helpful!!:thumbup1:

klaus 28 Nov 2012 01:12

I wanted to suggest to you to read this website (Heidi & Bernd Kleine's) ...
... however, it is all in German :(: welt-tour.com - Reisetagebuch Panamericana.

So, in case that you need any (translation) help, please let me know. :innocent: Maybe the pictures will help a little??

craig.iedema 28 Nov 2012 02:29

eeekk the M41 on an ElectraGlide those big washboards in the high parts and no man's land between the Tadj and Kygr border posts would be interesting.


But yes the Varadero wouldn't be an issue - I did it 2 up on 950. I would consider some semi off road tires.

Warin 28 Nov 2012 05:21

Anything is possible. :innocent:
Pack persistence and one of these two;

Money
Time

Or both...

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You will have more fun with a light load rather than a full load. Reduced weight = less work, less chance of a fall, less effort in picking the bike up.

Sambor 28 Nov 2012 05:58

I was on Pamir Highway many times, more than 10. It is doable on each bike. Of course it is better to have light one. Obigarm? I would rather recommend southern route - through Kulab. More scenic.
Yes sometimes there is landslide, sometimes high water and you have to wait. No man's land section is different each year. I was stuck there by water, mud, snow. Asia, you have to be patient ;)

zandesiro 28 Nov 2012 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by klaus (Post 402170)
I wanted to suggest to you to read this website (Heidi & Bernd Kleine's) ...
... however, it is all in German :(: welt-tour.com - Reisetagebuch Panamericana.

So, in case that you need any (translation) help, please let me know. :innocent: Maybe the pictures will help a little??

I think i get the main idea....


Quote:

Originally Posted by craig.iedema (Post 402171)
But yes the Varadero wouldn't be an issue - I did it 2 up on 950. I would consider some semi off road tires.

Thank you craig.iedema!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warin (Post 402183)
Anything is possible. :innocent:
Pack persistence and one of these two;

Money
Time

Or both...

-------------------
You will have more fun with a light load rather than a full load. Reduced weight = less work, less chance of a fall, less effort in picking the bike up.

Money...not much...!
Time ...Now with the Greek crisis i will be with out of job so i'll have a lot in the future!!

Thank you!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Sambor (Post 402186)
I was on Pamir Highway many times, more than 10. It is doable on each bike. Of course it is better to have light one. Obigarm? I would rather recommend southern route - through Kulab. More scenic.
Yes sometimes there is landslide, sometimes high water and you have to wait. No man's land section is different each year. I was stuck there by water, mud, snow. Asia, you have to be patient ;)

Sambor....You will be my mentor to Pamir highway!:thumbup1:

Sambor 28 Nov 2012 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by zandesiro (Post 402199)
Sambor....You will be my mentor to Pamir highway

I don't think you need a mentor. I will be in Central Asia as always. Let me know when are you going to ride. Maybe we will meet.

dnicoletti 28 Nov 2012 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig.iedema (Post 402171)
eeekk the M41 on an ElectraGlide those big washboards in the high parts and no man's land between the Tadj and Kygr border posts would be interesting.


But yes the Varadero wouldn't be an issue - I did it 2 up on 950. I would consider some semi off road tires.

"Washboards" are always useful, at every latitude...

zandesiro 27 Jan 2013 07:49

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Update!!!


As the title said, is a trip to the stans possible with a full loaded Varadero xl1000v??
This is my Varadero...:mchappy:
http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/...2/IMG_3694.jpg


Whats better for the "stans" aluminium-plastic-or soft panniers??

Tkcs-heidenau or metz. tourance worth make the trip with the vibrations of the tkcs???

Bike fuel range is 320+ km (200miles) all that with 24 liters (6 gallons)....If i carry a 10 liter (2.60gallons) jerry can, with me,will cover me for the stans!??Or i will need more?:rolleyes2:

Lets get some opinions!!:thumbup1:

uk_vette 27 Jan 2013 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by zandesiro (Post 401848)
Thank you,M41 its ok for me!This is one of the road that i was worried if varadero can passing througth..

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OH yes, :thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1:

Varadero 1000cc for the win.

Ultra comfortable, and a real long distance mile muncher.

The Pamir,,,M41, The Vara will eat it for breakfast:funmeterno:

vette


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