Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > Northern and Central Asia
Carnet for Russia and Mongolia Carnet for Russia and Mongolia
Register FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Northern and Central Asia Topics specific to Russia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Mongolia, China, Japan and Korea
Photo by Ellen Delis, Lagunas Ojos del Campo, Antofalla, Catamarca

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Ellen Delis,
Lagunas Ojos del Campo,
Antofalla, Catamarca



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 8 Mar 2006
Ian Ian is offline
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 443
Carnet for Russia and Mongolia
After researching the HUBB, it seems a carnet is not required for Russia and Mongolia. Can anyone confirm this is still the case?

Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 8 Mar 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Berkeley, CA USA
Posts: 312
That was the case as of last year. Ask David at www.stantours.com just to make sure
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 8 Mar 2006
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 147
Definitely not needed for Mongolia, and I believe not for Russia either.

-Scott
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 8 Mar 2006
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: london england
Posts: 56
hi, i'm going through the process of getting my carnet from uk to oz. as far as i know when you buy a carnet you buy it for a whole area, ie if you wanted to go to india and pakistan you would get a carnet for asia which would cover the whole lot. my carnet will include russia, mongolia china and so on. wether they know what it is and bother stamping it is a different matter.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 8 Mar 2006
simmo's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: melbourne
Posts: 555
Allen, they know exactly what it is, but you wont need it in Russia or Mongolia or any other of the former Soviet republics. Dont make the mistake of thinking they are stupid. You will see truck drivers using carnets all the time at these crossings. Sean Howman got his stamped because they would, but it wasnt necessary.

alec

http://users.netlink.com.au/~asimpson
__________________
Close to Antarctica and a long way from reality
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 30 Mar 2006
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 45
Allen... That isnt quite how it works, each country that asks for a carnet demands a different value be placed on the incoming vehicle. The country with the highest tariff is India, therefore, if you have a carnet that gets you into India it will get you into every country in the world requiring a carnet! It isnt geographical as such. If you are going to go into a lot of countries requiring a carnet then just make sure you have enough pages!!!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 30 Mar 2006
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 45
Ps, agree with Simmo! You will see carnets at most borders and everyone knows what it is and how it works. It can actually make things easier, eg. you dont need one for Turkey but if you have one then use it; we did and got through the border very quickly!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 30 Mar 2006
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: london england
Posts: 56
hi just to up date you. have just sorted my carnet for the trip to oz via russia and mongolia. you do not need a carnet for these countries. you only need a carnet from laos/thailand.hope this helps.
www.horizonsunlimited/tstories/patrick/
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 30 Mar 2006
Grant Johnson's Avatar
HU Founder
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Dec 1997
Location: BC Canada
Posts: 7,226
Note that when oyu get the carnet you must tell the issuers what countries you do not want it for - they will cross off those countries so it won't be valid for them - so be generous in your choice of countries!

Wars, floods, tsunamis etc can cause major route changes.
__________________
Grant Johnson
Seek, and ye shall find.
------------------------
Inspiring, Informing and Connecting travellers since 1997!
www.HorizonsUnlimited.com
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10 Apr 2006
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Singapore
Posts: 73
Hi Ian,
We just returned back from UK to Singapore via Russia, Mongolia, China, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia.
No Carnet is needed for Russia and Mongolia. Getting the Russian papers (insurance etc) at the border is impt, the police down the road all the way till Siberia like to pull you over. Sometimes for speeding or such. Once in Siberia, the police are alot more friendlier.
Mongolia is very lax about checking anything, again no carnet req. but they might ask u to buy insurance at the border.
Just to correct an earlier post here too, NO Carnet required for Laos or Thailand- Land borders (flying in might be different, im not sure, they might ask since most travllers flying from nepal would have one). Please stop using the carnets in Cambodia, they are in no way part of the Carnet organisations. The more people who use it, the more the will ask for it from others who dont have one.
I didnt have a carnet for my UK registered bike and encountered no prob from UK to Malaysia. Singapore is a different matter.

Cheers n Have lots of fun!!!

Dalbir
Last edited by Dalbir; 11 Apr 2006 at 15:37. Reason: message not clear
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 18 Apr 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 227
Dalbir,
I'm sure your message is going to get much interest from us out there:
how did you cross from Mongolia to Laos ? how much hassle was that to get the bike/yourself registered by the Chinese, etc.. ?

Thank you for the details, I'm definitely looking into riding China!

Laurent
__________________
2- and 4-wheeled explorer and photographer
Overland Aventure
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 13 May 2017
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 13
Russia Carnet / travel docs
dear all
after reading these discussions and very helpful comments, my only question was: is this stuff still accurate in 2017?

- still no carnet required?
- still only Russian insurance allowed?

thanks a million?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 15 May 2017
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Guildford, England
Posts: 20
I'm going to Russia soon and do not have a Carnet.

I believe it's only some of Africa and maybe some of south east asia as well.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 19 May 2017
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
  
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Spain-Italy
Posts: 9
You don't need a carnet for Russia.. I need it for enter in Japan.
Carnet De Passage Information by Country - Overlanding Association
Check this link
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 28 May 2017
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: WA Australia
Posts: 27
Carnet questions.
Hi all,

The people that deal with Carnet's are very helpful. Just find the number for your country and call them up. They'll provide much better unto date information than someone that might of passed through a few months ago.
Reply With Quote
Reply

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

Your ad could be here, on EVERY page of the HUBB, or the whole website, or as many as you like!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 13:56.

Contact Us - Horizons Unlimited Motorcycle Travellers Website - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top