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Braaart 7 Jun 2007 15:25

Buying Bike in Kyrgyz/Kazakh
 
Sorry for new post, but I couldn't reply to the earlier "Getting a bike in Kyrgyzstan" post.

I was in Bishkek for a few days and checked out the "Azamat/Azeorynok" car (and I was told bike) market about 10km to the west of town. There were 100's, possibly 1000's of cars in a huge lot but only 2, YES TWO, motorcycles! (a big scooter and a big-ish street bike). The guys hanging around told me (in hand gestures and Russian) that Sunday is the big day, but for anyone placing any hope in picking up a bike here, I'd say forget it.

Having said that, maybe Sunday is a big day?? (Any feedback here?).

I didn't check out the 'classifieds', nor did I enquire about other markets, but was told by several locals that this was the place to go.

Now across in Almaty (Kaz) for a week, so will add to this post if I turn up any leads beyond the tips supplied so far like stantours, vis-a-vis purchasing a touring/adventure/enduro style bike in this part of the world.

TonUp 7 Jun 2007 20:17

Looking forward to your post about Almaty. Did you encounter any trouble getting across the border?

Braaart 9 Jun 2007 15:06

Almaty
 
The Bishkek-Almaty journey is cheap and easy. Minivans departing when full, 250 Som (~$6.50). The actual crossing (passport control, checks etc ) was one of the easiest I've ever encountered. Of course you need a visa in advance.

On the topic of borders, if anyone knows about the border just south of Kegan/Karkara please let me know. I'm planning to head back that way via the eastern end of Lake Issyk-Kul and wonder if I can get a stamp there? I think the (back door) border(s) on the minor roads north of the lake have no passport control.

As for bikes, I've found a couple of dealers and have a date with a guy on Monday who's supposedly 'the man in the know' for bike repair/second hand bikes. I'll post details of this + addresses for the dealers in a few days.

There are certainly options here but unsurprisingly they're not cheap. I'll willingly pay a couple of grand on top of the norm (eg. Australian market), but not double. I looked at a '07 KLR650 3,500km with an asking price of US$12,000! They sell for AUD8,000 (US$6,500) NEW at home. More realistic was a '06 DR650 for US$8,500 but unfortunately it was sold.

MotoEdde 10 Jun 2007 15:20

I checked it out last Wednesday and Friday as well. No luck on motos there. Saw that same paltry scooter and naked street bike...
My guess is Almaty is the right place to try...post your results up here when you get them...
Best of luck out there...

Braaart 12 Jun 2007 10:32

Msg for TonUp
 
Thanks for your message. (Sorry to all but I can't as yet send/reply to PM, so reply sent as a post here).

I'll be back in Bishkek on Thurday (although might make detour via the lake, so could be a few more days). I don't have a number in Kyrgyz but I'll be at Sakura GH.

Summary of bike availability in Almaty to follow...

petefromberkeley 12 Jun 2007 18:28

Regarding the border crossing north of Issyk Kul, I did it a couple of years ago and it was fine. I was comming IN to Kyrgyz. and they did not have a stamp for my passport, but nobody cared when I exited to UZ. They took my picture which was odd. I think the Kaz. guys did have a stamp.

By the way. Tashkent does have a decent used motorcycle market. Lots of used parts and several Urals etc. for sale. They were something like $300.00 with a sidecar.

Braaart 13 Jun 2007 10:35

Thanks for the reply and info.

Is there a specific location in Tashkent or do you just mean generally, ie. what's around, classifieds, etc?

Braaart 13 Jun 2007 12:12

Motorcycles in Almaty
 
Ok, here's some info about motos in Almaty. My focus was on Jap/Euro enduros. There are a few options for new/near new, but I think not so much for secondhand. As with Bishkek I did not check out the classifieds. There are lots of motorcross/small enduros, jet skis (!), quads, etc - yes, Kaz is getting rich and people can afford toys now...

1. StoppyStars, Office 5, 143 Kurmangazy St, far western end near Mukanov. "STOPPY STARS" - Èãðóøêè äëÿ áîëüøèõ ìàëü÷èêîâ +7(3272)638324
General dealer, Honda (little MXs + a couple CRFs); Kawasaki (KLR650 I mentioned earlier); Suzuki (DRZ400, DR650 - sold, mentioned earlier); handfull of street/sport bikes which I didn't pay attention to so can't specify models sorry; + good range protective equip, lubs etc. All bikes new or near new. These guys showed me an BMW 650 Dakar 750km, owner wants to buy street bike from StoppyStars, very tempting at US$11,500, I had a nice blast down some of Almaty's streets accompanied by a big dude (no helmet) on an even bigger BMW (it had speakers on the back seat!) nice background music for my test ride but I wasn't impressed with the performance and big questions about rego transfer (more on this later/post in trip paperwork).

2. Eurasia Motors (KTM) 54 Satpaev St, btwn Gagarina (sp?) and Jarokova (sp?), off the page to the west if you're looking at a lonelyplanet (something I wouldn't recommend in this part of the world). ::: EURASIAMOTORS ::: +7(3272)748584
Once again, nice toys for water etc, but only one bike, the 990 Dakar monster, asking price around US$20,000. They said there were a couple of 640s (Adv model) coming in 1-2 weeks, US$13,800.

3. Yamaha, 273 Rozybakiyev St, the western extension of Tole Bi, near Sayran Bus Station. +7(3272)783713 ТОО «Алем Мото Казахстан» - официальный дистрибьютор YAMAHA MOTOR Co. / Алем Мото Казахстан
Good range of Yams from the Peewee 50 up, lots of small MX, small enduro, street, sport, jet ski, quad, big gleaming showroom, new toys for the new rich and their brats. Of interest to me was an XT660R (also had the X (road) model). Asking US$12,700 and will sell US$11,500 which by my estimation is about US$2000 over the Australian price so it's not too bad. I had a small ride in a dirt/paved industrial area and was quite impressed with it's pull. Have to put down some $$ before a road ride and a feel of balance/cornering etc. This bike hasn't received much positive feedback on HU. Any comments/thoughts on riding it thru Kyrgyz, Uzbek, etc, Turkey...to Germany?

4. Astana Motors, Autocenter Bavaria (BMW) 115 Raymbek Av, near Furmanov. +7(237)2500022
Big, sparkling, gleaming, cafe etc, Western style showroom with latest cars but no bikes at moment. They are awaiting shipment of unspecified numbers/models. The Dakar I mentioned above originates from here and I saw quite a few of the couches on wheels with rear stereos getting around town. You would have to get in touch to find out more: Olzhas_Akmuldin@bavaria.kz (Sales Manager)

There is also a bike club (of Kazakhstan), the President of which (Dimitry +7 701 711 0680) is a big jovial cracker who's been on several RTW trips on his couch on wheels with stereo. It's worth a visit to his office in the Central Sports Stadium (also office/shop near cnr Abay and Baytursynov) to check out his photo albumn and have a chat (he doesn't speak English - must have been interesting for him on road - but some of his staff speak a little). This is where I was supposed to meet 'the man in the know' for used bikes and repair in Almaty, but he could not be reached, or there was some problem, I couldn't follow the mostly RUssian and Kazakh exchanges.

So there are bikes here. The problem (for me) however, is registration. Apparently I can't register a bike here on my tourist visa. So not quite sure how to get a bike out/through borders - I'll post more on this in 'trip paperwork'.

Can anyone offer any suggestions?

BTW, I don't know what's happened to the links, but they seem to work.

petefromberkeley 13 Jun 2007 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braaart (Post 139477)
Thanks for the reply and info.

Is there a specific location in Tashkent or do you just mean generally, ie. what's around, classifieds, etc?

There is a specific motorcycle market, but I couldn't tell you what it's called or how to get there. Somebody who lived there took me to it. I just followed him.

There was a tremendous seletion of used parts for Russian bikes and some used bikes for sale. You could try contacting Central Asian HU communities and asking them how to get there.

TonUp 14 Jun 2007 02:17

Wow, those prices seem SO high compared to what we hear about for Kyrgyzstan. I really wonder what I'll wind up with when I go shopping, and what I'll wind up paying. :eek3:


BTW, Braart, I think you have a PM from me.

djw908 3 Jul 2014 09:58

I have just entered Kazakstan on my UK registered BMW F650GS (2003). My plan was to ride on into China but cost means it's no longer an option. I am therefore looking to sell it in either Kazakstan or Kyrgystan.

The bike must leave Kazakstan by 2/10/14 to avoid customs charges.

I know it's a long shot but shipping it back seems very complicated!

Sambor 7 Jul 2014 14:09

I can ship your bike back home. Easy. I am in Bishkek now.

muztoo.com 15 Jul 2014 04:29

Hi. By August 12.2014 we will be selling some of our YAMAHA XT 600 E. They will be fully serviced, new tires, and go for around USD 2500.-. They are Kyrgyz registered and you'll get a power of attorney so you can cross any border.

CHeers


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